1 Year Post Nissen Fundoplication

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choosingjoy
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   Posted 6/21/2012 11:34 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone!!
 
I can't believe it!  It's been a whole year since my surgery!  I have to say that this was a very good choice for me to have this procedure done.  It took a long time, close to 8 months, for me to feel much better. 
 
Now, however, I'm noticing that I am having quite a lot of sour taste in my mouth once again.  Is it possible to still have issues with food going slowly through the wrap site even after a year?  I can't tell if it is acid reflux or not.  I've noticed this passed month, because I've been feeling so good, I've eaten more and more things like bread, buns, things that are not as easily swallowed or chewed well.  Could this be the problem?  I'm not experiencing any heartburn except an occasional little amount that was nothing like it was before. 
 
Thanks so much everyone for your input!! 
 
Kim

Baza
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   Posted 6/21/2012 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kim,glad to hear your surgery has helped you,sorry i cant help you with your question as i have only had nissen done in March this year.You say it took you 8 months to feel better,hope you dont mind me asking what sort of symtoms you were experiencing during your recovery.Im asking as im having a few problems myself. Hopefully someone will come along with a bit more experience to answer your question.Thanks Barry

Dave234
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   Posted 6/21/2012 12:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm at 7 months and I'm suddenly having symptoms again. I think it could be from me adding new things to my diet like walnuts, raisin bran, salmon burger (just the burger), coffee, and wine (not all at the same time).

But I feel awful. I feel like I can't breathe. I noticeably feel bad. Also I have dark circles under my eyes, etc.

I was feeling GREAT before, just a few weeks ago. Kim, do you or anyone else have some advice for me??

In regards to eating a soft diet, why does that even matter at this stage of the game? If I drink a lot of water, wouldn't that force all the food to go into my stomach anyway?

choosingjoy
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   Posted 6/21/2012 3:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Barry and Dave,

As far as symptoms I had throughout the first 8 months or so, they mostly were centered around the feeling of eating too much at one time or something that was difficult to eat like bread. It would slow down around the wrap site and take a long time to go through into my stomach. Therefore, I would feel a discomfort around the area of where I'm pretty sure the wrap is, sour taste, and sometimes the feeling of heartburn. Also, some things would not go down too easily. I could eat something and it felt like it would take forever to be completely swallowed. I think, but not sure, that it might have been esophageal spasms. Almost felt like that anyway. Hope this helps.

Dave, I found out that soft foods are important from time to time to give your esophagus a break from working so hard to swallow foods that are dryer or thicker or just difficult to chew up as well as others. I have learned from this that the esophagus is a very delicate organ. This surgery takes a long time to recover from. A lot longer than I realized when I decided to have it done. But, I have to say, I'm glad I did it. Even if I am having a few symptoms right now, it's so much better than it was. My hope is to make sure I'm doing what is right in my eating habits and if need be, down the road, I need to get back on some medication to keep it under control, I"ll do that if I feel it's necessary. Before surgery, my meds did nothing for me.

I hope this helped a little for you two. I'll be praying for your progress and healing!!

Kim

Baza
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   Posted 6/22/2012 4:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Thankyou very much Kim! All The Best! Barry

dencha
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   Posted 6/22/2012 9:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kim,
Welcome to the forum!  Your "choosingjoy" handle says volumes about your positive attitude. I've no doubt that attitude helped you through your Nissen recovery!  Happiness is an inside job, and definitely a choice requiring some hard work at times!
 
Interestingly, I had a very similar experience at the year mark.  I wish I could tell you what caused it, but I can't.  I can tell you that it wasn't long lasting.  It lasted several monhs, but didn't cause me any other problems to speak of. 
 
I did start taking Carafate suspension again at that time to protect my esophagus and wrap.  I suspected bile reflux, as did my GI doc, but it didn't persist, so I have my doubts about that.  Still, if your wrap feels irritated from it, and you have good prescription insurance, consider discussing the possibility of a prescription of Carafate suspension to get you through.  It coats and protects the esophagus and stomach.  I have a very reactive stomach that irritates easily and often and I always have it on hand to help me through.
 
I'm three-and-a-half years post Nissen, and am doing great.  The issue that led me to surgery was severe, severe lung symptoms.  My reflux wasn't that bad, but it was enough to cause my asthma to become uncontrollable.  My lungs are great now (except for some allergy reaction), and I just wish I'd had the surgery a lot sooner.  I suffered years needlessly.
 
The information you shared with Dave and Barry was great and extremely helpful!  That's how this forum works...through shared experience and support, we help each other!
 
Glad you've joined us!
Hope your sour taste leaves you very soon!
Best wishes,
Denise
 
Words of wisdom by Eckhart Tolle:
"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”

Dave234
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   Posted 6/22/2012 10:58 AM (GMT -6)   
Kim,
Thank you very much for your input. I'm trying to not drink coffee (difficult) and also I just drank an Ensure protein drink. For lunch I will have my macaroni and cheese.

Interestingly now that I've had my Ensure protein drink (I drank it quite quickly) I feel a little bit of the reflux feeling.

Denise,
Is Carafate suspension similar to Slippery Elm powder?

dencha
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   Posted 6/22/2012 12:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Dave,
I've never used slippery elm, but from what I've read, they both have a similar effect--to coat the esophagus and stomach--kind of a liquid band-aid.
Denise

choosingjoy
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   Posted 6/28/2012 10:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi All,

Sorry I haven't responded sooner, we were in California for a several days. Nice to get away!

Dave, I read your comment about how you felt a little reflux after drinking the Ensure. You said you drank it quickly. That might be the reason. I know that some people on this site have also talked about the feeling of reflux after drinking something. I noticed sometimes and still do to this day that if I drink something, it will feel as though it is coming back up a little. I've been told and read that is part of the healing process because of the wrap not allowing everything to go through quickly like it once was able to. Take it slowly and see if that helps.

Denise,

Now I'm feeling a little "heartburn" but not sure if it's acid or reflux from the wrap. (Not as bad as before surgery). I've taken Tums to see if that helps and sometimes it feels better like it coated the area of my esophagus where I feel the burn but it doesn't do much after that. Now, I have found out that I might have a hernia near my belly button. I've had 3 C-sections in the past 10 years and the doctor said that can be common in women after having those surgeries.

I'm also feeling like I did after a few months after surgery. The feeling of water going down slowly, and food sometimes going down slowly as well. That's why I'm wondering if it's more my wrap reflux and not acid. Any thoughts? I respect and appreciate your input.

Have a great day everyone!!
Kim

dencha
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   Posted 6/28/2012 11:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kim,
I'm no doctor, but have been participating in this forum for over 3 years, so I've seen a lot of issues crop up over that time.  I also had the surgery three and a half years ago, and have had a variety of issues both before and after.
 
I have a very sensitive stomach, and since my wrap is created out of that stomach, it often gets irritated.  That irritation can definitely mimic heartburn.  Also, even after surgery, heartburn is very possible--it's just less frequent and severe.
 
If I were to guess, my guess would be that you've irritated your wrap and it's reacting.  Try to be careful with what you eat and drink.
 
If you have good prescription coverage you might ask your doc for a Carafate suspension prescription.  It coats the esophagus and stomach and makes it more comfortable as the healing occurs.  If you don't have good coverage, there's a generic pill version (Sulcrafate) that you can put into a shotglass or medicine cup, and mix with a bit of water.  You throw it back to your throat like people who take shots.  Then the liquid can coat as it goes into your stomach.
 
Give it some time, and it'll probably clear up.  My reactive stomach flares up every so often when I overdo it with my eating and drinking (coffee, wine, etc.)
 
Hang in there,
Denise
 
 
Words of wisdom by Eckhart Tolle:
"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”

Anathema
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   Posted 6/30/2012 5:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi dencha, I had my surgery little less then 2 weeks ago and was wondering when I could sort of expect to eat normal again? Also will I ever be able to eat out somewhere like subway again, or be able to eat stirfry with lots of vegtables?

dencha
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   Posted 6/30/2012 8:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Anathema,
Welcome to the Healing Well yeah yeah yeah Wrapped Club! yeah yeah yeah You'll definitely be able to eat both those things, but not for a while.  At 2 weeks post op you're in the thick of early recovery, and your wrap is pretty close to peak swelling. 
 
I don't know if you're noticing it, but you're likely to be having a harder time swallowing now than you did earlier in the recovery.  This is because the wrap becomes increasingly more swollen over the first two weeks.  After it reaches peak, it begins to subside and your swallowing will improve again.
 
You will definitely be able to eat those foods again.  There's really nothing I can't eat now.  I'm three and a half years post op, but as I recall it was about at the four month mark that my eating was pretty much normalized.  I remember that because we went on vacation and I was eating out a lot.
 
That said, you'll always have to eat more slowly, take smaller bites, and chew more thoroughly.  That's not a bad thing, though!  You're less likely to want to go back for seconds!
 
You'll want to stay away from steak and untoasted bread for quite some time, but if you toast the bread you should be able to manage just fine.  Cook your veggies more than usual...softer than you may like.
 
Here's a good eating resource for you to check out:
 
Also, here's a link to my early recovery journal:
 
Never fear.  You'll be able to eat your old favorite foods once again.  For now just try to surrender to your recovery and follow it where it takes you.  Don't struggle against it...instead, go with the flow.  You can't hurry it, you can't change the fact that you've got a lot of healing to do.  Everyone's body adjusts differently, and although certain things are universal, you'll have your own special recovery experience.
 
This recovery takes 6 months for the majority of healing and a full year for the rest.  You can't rush it, so just relax and enjoy the ride.
 
Glad you've joined us!  Be sure to continue to ask questions.  We're here to support you through recovery and share our own experiences. 
 
Why not start your own thread on the main page?  Just introduce yourself and share where you are in recovery.  That way it'll be easier for your posts to be noticed.  Here's the link to the main page:   GERD - Heartburn
 
Best of luck,
Denise
 
Words of wisdom by Eckhart Tolle:
"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”

Post Edited (dencha) : 6/30/2012 7:41:29 PM (GMT-6)


Anathema
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   Posted 7/1/2012 4:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for your reply and the information dencha. It helps calm the mind, instead of regreting having the procedure done. I didn't learn it was going to change my eatting habits untill after the procedure and how much it would untill I started looking it up on the net. I'm taking it slow not eating that often. This week I've mostly just been eating pudding, jello, yogurt drinks, and cottage cheese recently. I'm going to take your advice and post my experience sometime soon, and again thank you.
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