Please help! Could ANYTHING related to GERD/LPR cause Tinnitus??

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Incognito
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   Posted 7/23/2012 8:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I am a long-time sufferer of LPR but only recently I started taking PPIs. In fact, I've been taking pantoprazole for only a month before deciding to stop.

I gradually lowered the dose and eventually replaced it with H2 blockers.

Other things I've been using is gaviscon.

My LPR gradually worsened (rebound ?), classic symptoms of GERD appeared, I started feeling very bloated, burping a lot and feeling my stomach content going back up.

The worst thing though, is severe, loud tinnitus that appeared 5 days ago. It's so bad, I woke up at night, having a panic attack and ended up at ER.

Now I'm wondering what could be the cause, and this is my question - could anything related to GERD cause tinnitus? Taking H2, PPIs, going off PPIs or anything? Please, I've never been so depressed. I hear a loud noise 24/7. I cannot sleep. Any advice is welcome.

It's kinda ironic how petty does reflux feel compared to this new problem... if it doesn't go away, I don't know. I have suicidal thoughts. I won't be able to carry on much longer.

Post Edited (Incognito) : 7/23/2012 8:45:30 AM (GMT-6)


stkitt
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   Posted 7/23/2012 10:53 AM (GMT -6)   
The PPIS and H2 Blockers may cause dizziness,  vertigo and tinnitus.  I would check with your pharmacist to see if the med you are currently taking is known to be ototoxic .
 
Good luck and I am sorry to read you are having this problem.
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jpvn2015
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   Posted 7/23/2012 11:22 AM (GMT -6)   
There is a slim possibility that an extreme episode of GERD could cause tinnitus. Whenever I have a bad bout of reflux, my whole sinus tract and ears are affected in negative ways.

As stkitt said, the medications you are on good definitely cause the tinnitus you are experiencing. However, I suggest you consult your physician to see if he has any medications he could offer to you. There is no need to put up with the pain any longer.

Good luck, and I hope you feel better soon.
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   Posted 7/23/2012 12:42 PM (GMT -6)   
I've had tinnitus for many years. Gerd related...medicine related...noise related... I don't know...

It does get annoying at times, but I'm getting used to it, anyway if it's perment you will too.
Joy

Carrie48
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   Posted 7/23/2012 4:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi incohnito

I can relate with you. I too have been having ear ringing for nearly two months. I mentioned it to my GI dic and he said it could be allergy related. Who knows. I do know that the more i think about it the worse it gets. Could be anxiety related too.

My seems to be letting up a bit this last week though. If you dont get relief, i would see a ear nose throat doctor.
DX with Lyme and Erlichosis in January 2010. January-August: Biaxin and Amoxicillian. September 2011 - ? on Rifampin and Zithromax. Symtpoms mostly neuro and have 20 small lesions on brain.

Incognito
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   Posted 7/23/2012 10:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you everyone for your answers.

Carrie> When I was in hospital they did several tests, including head CT and basic ENT checkups. Everything was ok.

Tinnitus is really much, much worse than any other symptom I've ever had :( But it's gerd related forum, so...

I find it hard to believe that going off PPIs after just a month could cause rebound, but it really looks like rebound. Common sense tells me that stomach should be empty after several hours since the last meal. Meanwhile I can literally feel like there's a PIECE OF FOOD in my esophagus. That + lots of burping and occasional sharp pain behind the left ribs. Oh lord what is going on with me, within a week my health spiraled down completely, I'm a wreck right now.

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   Posted 7/23/2012 11:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Incognito

I am also feeling bloated and also get burpy and gassy. My digestion is just a wreck right now and i too am worried about this all day long. Mine started Pretty quickly too. Our symptoms sound somewhat similiar.

Can you recall anything that may triggered it? I am not sure what triggered mine but just prior to issues starting, i had had a bad cold, i had been on antibiotics for a year for lyme (off those now), i had increased my cymbalta dosage (went off that for almost three months). Also, i am female 50 years so i am probably undergoing some major hormonal changes too. Lots of possible triggers.

Wish i could figure it out! Please let me know if you find something that helps you so i can figure out my situation too!!!
DX with Lyme and Erlichosis in January 2010. January-August: Biaxin and Amoxicillian. September 2011 - ? on Rifampin and Zithromax. Symtpoms mostly neuro and have 20 small lesions on brain.

SummerGAL
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   Posted 7/24/2012 1:50 AM (GMT -6)   
I have severe tinnitus, but it took many years of taking PPI's to cause the tinnitus.

Summer

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 7/24/2012 7:37 AM (GMT -6)   
I had tinnitus related to Lansoprazole - it comes and goes but stops if I don't take it.

Anaemia can also cause tinnitus - and PPIs can cause anaemia, as can GERD related issues like ulcers or gastritis. So it's worth making sure your haemoglobin and iron stores are OK.

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mock turtle
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   Posted 7/25/2012 11:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Incognito

i have not posted here for a long time due to debilitating tinnitus that i believe was vey possibly caused by taking drugs to treat gerd

it really had me on the ropes

certainly association is not causation so i may never know what caused my horrendous tinnitus but i do know what i did to stop the progression when i ceased taking H2 and PPI medications, and slowly i have gotten a little better

i strongly suspect that one, or the other, or the combination, of PPIs twice a day with a tab of H2s late in the evening to prevent night time reflux was ...if not the cause... at least a significant aggravating factor

i have lpr and i burn way up high in my throat, and now of course i get to deal with horrendous, loud, incessant tinnitus...i "hear three sounds...an ultra high frequency whistle or squeal...like a tea kettle whistle sound or squealing disk brakes...but several octaves higher in pitch...i "hear" a broad band hisssss, like escaping steam...and i hear a jumble of random tones, mid frequency, like what one hears on the telephone when you mistakenly connect to a fax machine number

and so i quit taking famotidine and quit taking omeprazole and this clearly halted the progression of the problem...things stopped getting worse and things even got a little better, but...i still got my back up against the wall dealing with awful tinnitus and awful gerd-lpr

you need to know that the human brain will learn to tune the tinnitus out, or at least tone down the perception of tinnitus, in time....in time...but that often takes a year or a bit more

the actual medical term for this process is called "habituation" and the process is well documented in medical literature, and real. to accomplish this you must use optimistic self talk, like, "this is a fake noise and i will get used to it...tinnitus can not hurt me unless i let it and i refuse to let tinnitus control my life" etc

then...you must keep yourself busy and try to not "listen" to the tinnitus or frequently "check its loudness" or think often and at length about, is it louder? or better ? or worse today than yesterday or this morning ?...you must stop focusing on tinnitus

play soft wide-frequency music to keep your auditory cortex busy with (real) non tinnitus sounds...keep it soft, and listen to tracks of wind, rain and rushing water...at low volumes...this distracts the brain from the tinnitus sound

and stay busy...mow the lawn (USE EAR PROTECTION, loud noise and some drugs are an especially destructive combination), go for walks, watch movies and take up an acoustic musical instrument that you can play softly

never take a drug without checking for its potential ototxicity (poison to the inner ear-cochlea)...specifically aminoglycoside antibiotics (like gentamycin are a huge source of ototoxicity an thee are hundreds of other drugs on the list...visit the ATA web site (american tinnitus association)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aminoglycoside

http://www.ata.org/

it is not uncommon for people who have very bad tinnitus to think self destructive thoughts...you are not alone, but please believe me you can and will get past this but you have to give your brain time to adjust and you MUST stop telling yourself cataclysmic thoughts...you can rise above this...you can...i know this, and you shall know this too

h2s and PPIs are not a problem via ototoxicity for many if not most patients...you and i are the rare exception who have vulnerable hearing to these substances...im so sorry for us all

please see a doctor about this as sometimes the tinnitus is caused by factors that can be treated like circulation-blood pressure issues, tmj and non malignant growths on the auditory nerve bundle

hang in there, you are not alone

best wishes
mock turtle

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 7/25/2012 2:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Mock T, my old friend, I'm so glad to see your post yeah

I'm sorry you've had such a rough time and hope that you're able to drop in on us again soon - we've missed you.

Best wishes

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mock turtle
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   Posted 7/26/2012 12:27 AM (GMT -6)   
mudmagnetmum
thank you for the kinds words...we are pals

ive been doing better lately and have been reading here on and off

i think often about the friends i mede here and wish you all well

i see where some have suffered setbacks , life is not easy but we soldier on

there have been medical advances during my absence...im remain hopeful for us all

best wishes
mt

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   Posted 7/26/2012 5:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome back Mock T.

Gerdymomma
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   Posted 9/27/2013 5:07 AM (GMT -6)   
I realize this is an old thread, however I am experiencing this same effect I was on 3 different PPI's since diagnosed with GERD this past June of this year. I was having panic attacks due to feeling like I could not swallow or the lump in throat feeling. Primary care didn't diagnose GERD at first but said it was Panic disorder and I was put on Paxil, had seizure like activity on Paxil, switched me to Zoloft and symptoms of seizures reoccurred. I finally went to ER and I had Acute essphagitus and spasms, got on a great GI regimen and then 3.5 weeks ago the tinnitus started :( been off all meds for 2 .5 weeks and am drinking 2 oz of Aloe Vera juice in the morning 1/2 hour before meals. I'm so depressed about this, but am finding help thru the A.T.A. Will see the Ear specialist oct.8th and will then decide if I will continue with a PPI, as they really do work well I just can't stand the ringing! Sigh!

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   Posted 9/27/2013 7:49 AM (GMT -6)   
 
I am sorry to read of your issues and I do hope the ENT can help you.
 
My husband has had ringing in his ears for years and we suspect it is from all the noise he was exposed to at work for 37 years.
 
Keep on talking with us,
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mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 9/27/2013 12:14 PM (GMT -6)   
My tinnitus fully resolved after iron infusion - always worth ruling out non-GERD causes.

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Terlin
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   Posted 9/30/2013 7:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I have tinnitus and my ears feel plugged , unable to pop my ears feeling a presure in my ears blowing my nose makes the presure worse I attribute it to reflux causing sinus presure do you have sinus issues?
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