NISSEN FUNDOPLICATION SURGERY TO HAVE OR NOT TO HAVE

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KAYEM
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   Posted 8/10/2012 6:49 PM (GMT -6)   
nono  10years ago i was diagnosed with GERD and a small diphragmatic hernia that has been well controlled with medication since then. Over the last 3 months I had increased nausea, vomiting and bloating. My doctor told me to change my food intake. I did that and then symptoms continued with increased nausea with drinking water and brushing my teeth. So I went back to doctor and as of today I had a my EGD. Findings were severe burns on the esophagus, hitial hernia and small ulcer. UGh!! not what I wanted to hear. So I work in healthcare on a daily basis I see how some surgeries go well and others not so much. Yes I have gained 40lbs in the last year so extra pressure on the diaphragm and not good for the reflux. SO I have read some bad reviews of the surgery and some good. So I do have small questions I would love feedback on:
How long did some of you wait before you had surgery done?
How long was the hospital stay?  My paperwork says 1 day overnight.
Is the burping or flatuance really excessive?
I am terrified to to stay in the hospital overnight. I know the staff will take care of me well but I am still fearful.
I read some post about not being able to eat salads and greens vegetables after the surgery is that common?
Do you really eat pureed foods or just soft food for the first 3 weeks after surgery?
I have only met with the gastrologist and not the surgeon, we have to wait until my biopsies are completed. I was told that the hernia and ulcer is at a pretty significant state. I will go stir crazy if I am at home and can't work for 3 weeks like my informational paperwork says.
 

mermaiden
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   Posted 8/10/2012 7:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I had that surgery about 15 years ago and was glad I did.  The Barrett's Esophagus has never gone away completely, but I have not had to take any anti-acid type medications at all since my surgery.  Two of my sons also had that surgery for same problem and have never had problems. I ate soft foods and was ok, but if doc tells you to eat puried, then do it. Hospital stay was overnight for all of us, recovery was hard first couple of day, at least for me. My son went out skateboarding, I nearly fainted when I found out! We did not wait long after diagnosis to have surgery done.  Good luck and don't worry nobody needs ulcers or other erosions, cancer, etc.  Take care of yourself.

bowecho
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   Posted 8/10/2012 7:20 PM (GMT -6)   
I had the surgery in November of 2011 and it has been a big success.

I waited too long to have it, about 2 years of extreme symptoms. Before that I did have GERD, but it could be controlled by medication.

Hospital stay was overnight. Don't be worried about the hospital stay. You'll be on so many painkillers that it'll fly by, and you'll sleep quite a bit. Before you know it you are home.

Some people do have gas problems for a while after surgery, some have no gas problems at all. I had trouble burping for a while, but it cleared up.

You won't eat salads or vegetables immediately after the surgery no, you will be on a restricted diet. In my case, I was on liquids/pureed foods for 2 weeks, very soft foods for 2 weeks, then starting at week 4 I added more solid foods in. Somewhere during week 6-8 I was eating everything again. That seems to be the normal story for most folks here. The diet really wasn't as bad as I expected. I pureed lots of soups, so I actually had a lot of variety and flavor during my recovery.

Your surgeon will give you more specifics about recovery. Everyone surgeon has slightly different guidelines, but overall they are similar across the board. I did stay off work for 3 weeks, but many people do 2 weeks. Just stockpile some books and movies and you'll be occupied. :)

Good luck! This site is a great resource, I am glad you have found us.

Tony
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bowecho
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   Posted 8/10/2012 7:23 PM (GMT -6)   
If you have some time, there is a similar active thread where another forum member is considering the surgery. I recommend checking it out, it has some good information.

The thread is "Fundoplication has me apprehensive"

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=45&m=2484167

couchtater
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   Posted 8/10/2012 7:26 PM (GMT -6)   
How long did some of you wait before you had surgery done?
After I was told to have the surgery it took about three months of testing.
 
How long was the hospital stay? My paperwork says 1 day overnight.
I stayed 24 hours.
 
Is the burping or flatuance really excessive?
I had hiccups and toots bad for about a week. I tooted for about a year.
 
I am terrified to to stay in the hospital overnight. I know the staff will take care of me well but I am still fearful.
I was scared because I'd never had surgery or been in the hospital before. I slept most of the time there. They were all very caring and gentle. I had someone spend the night with me to keep me company and act as a go between.
 
I read some post about not being able to eat salads and greens vegetables after the surgery is that common?
During the first months you need to avoid raw veggies. After you're healed you can eat what you want.
 
Do you really eat pureed foods or just soft food for the first 3 weeks after surgery?
I had a strict surgeon who gave me a strict diet to follow. You need to stay on liquids until the swelling goes down. The peak swelling is reached around day 14. After that you can go on the soft foods. Then gradually add firmer foods leaving steak, bread, and raw veggies last.
 
I will go stir crazy if I am at home and can't work for 3 weeks like my informational paperwork says.
Three weeks is ideal, but if you have a desk job you can go back earlier. I'm a teacher and was back to work at 2 weeks.

Joy
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dencha
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   Posted 8/10/2012 8:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi KATEM6,
Welcome to Healing Well!  I had my surgery three and a half years ago, and am extremely glad I did.  I was also fearful, and put the surgery off far too long.  I wish I'd had the courage to have it much sooner.  Here's a link to my early recovery.  It will give you an idea of what one person's early recovery was like:
 http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=45&m=2183443                           
Good luck with your decision!
Best wishes,
Denise
 
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"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”

KAYEM
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   Posted 8/10/2012 10:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you all for all your prompt responses. And for words of comfort and pointing me in the right direction of other threads to read. As I lay in bed on my 45degree wedge to keep tonight's food down, I think it may be time to have the surgery. I realized this spring I was miserable b/c I couldn't sleep b/c I did not have my wedge to sleep on. So i guess I am looking forward to a full night sleep, and not burping every 3. Sentences.
Well I will post a new update after I meet with the surgeon.
I think what is going to be hard is I only eat fish and chicken and a lot of veggies / fruits. A lot of my favorite foods are on currently on the avoid list. Hmm
Thanks again for the input. Awesome site.

kyheart
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   Posted 8/11/2012 4:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Kayem

I had the surgery in April 2011, I would do it again if I needed to.. as far as being concerned about hour food intake.. cook your veggies and pured them with a little chicken broth.. then once your on soft food, just cook them and chew chew chew....
I was in the hospital from Fridayand went home Sunday.. but I was 62 when I had it done. Hospital time was a breeze.. I went back to my desk job after 18 days.. wish I hadwaited a few more days...
Hope this helped
Sandi

WendyV
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   Posted 8/12/2012 2:15 AM (GMT -6)   
As s/o with Barrett's, and taking Somac each day (kept well under control with Somac), I have not ever heard about this surgery??? Is this site predominantly other than Australian? Thanks for any info.

dencha
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   Posted 8/12/2012 8:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Wendy,
Welcome to the Healing Well GERD forum! There are members from all over the world here...a few I can think of are the UK, Denmark, South Africa, Italy...and on and on.  It's origin is the US, and I'd say the majority of members are here, but we have friends all over the world!
 
Here's a link with some information about the surgery:
 
I'm certain it's done in Australia.  It has been around as an open procedure for over 50 years, and as a laproscopic procedure probably for 15 years.
 
Good luck!
Denise
Words of wisdom by Eckhart Tolle:
"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”

dencha
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   Posted 8/12/2012 10:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Wendy, here is another resource...this one from Brisbane, Australia:
There is a movie button that provides a lot of information.
Good luck!
Denise turn

WendyV
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   Posted 8/13/2012 2:51 AM (GMT -6)   
dencha said...
Wendy, here is another resource...this one from Brisbane, Australia:
There is a movie button that provides a lot of information.
Good luck!
Denise turn
 
Thanks for the info Denise!  My Barrette's is well controlled with Somac, and so my Gastroenterologist is very happy with my state of health atm...have 2 yearly endoscopy to keep an eye on it. All the best, Wendy.

dencha
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   Posted 8/13/2012 8:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Good to hear, Wendy.  Best wishes! turn

KAYEM
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   Posted 8/22/2012 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Well I have met with the surgeon and told due to the severity of my GERD and the size of the hernia, surgery is the only option. I know when I first was diagnosed with the hernia 10 years ago I had chest pain when my stomach when into my esphagus. I asked why I don't experience that now, and I was informed that because the size of the hernia. So I have scheduled my surgery for September 28th at 7:30 am. WOW! I am so nervous. Will I be ready to eat by Thanksgiving? I was told I may have to be on clear liquids for 2 weeks at the least because of my strong gag reflex so he wants to prevent all possible chances of me throwing up.
Will I get bored with clear liquids?
I will welcome all sugestions for clear liquids.
Does anyone have ideas of how to keep your iron levels up if we cant have green vegetables until week 3 or 4?
I wonder if I should start changing my diet now so I dont crave foods later.

KAYEM
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   Posted 8/22/2012 7:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh my gosh the surgeon change me from omperazole to aciphex until the surgery and I almost screamed at the cost. Well I have a high deductible insurance so the for 45 pills it was $817.26, yes Eight hundred! So yes I would love to have good relief unitl than but, not at the tune of $817.26. So i was assertive and and called and asked for sample or a cheaper medication, that worked just as good. So I have Pantoprazole 40mg. Does anyone have any thoughts on this medication. I GERD is often medication resistant. This is day 3 and I have had only 1 bad night with reflux. So I look forward to the surgery for a GERD relief.

dencha
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   Posted 8/22/2012 8:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi KAYE,
Pantoprazole (Protonix) 40mg is what I was put on after being hospitalized with GERD induced asthma several years ago.  I was taking 40mg twice a day, and it worked pretty well.  I had been taking Prilosec, then Nexium.  Obviously, the GI doc felt that Protonix was a better choice. 
Hope it works well for you.  Congrats on your scheduled surgery. 
We'll be here to support you through it!
Best wishes,
Denise
Words of wisdom by Eckhart Tolle:
"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”

KAYEM
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   Posted 8/22/2012 8:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Denise!!
They just perfromed the surgery on NY MED on TV with Dr. OZ
kaye

SummerGAL
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   Posted 8/23/2012 1:22 AM (GMT -6)   
I scheduled surgery in April of this year and then got scaird and canceled it.  I plan to re-schedule in Jan.  I can't live like this forever. I am so sick of taking so many meds for heartburn, I just want to be off the meds for a long time.  Some days I feel pretty normal so the surgery is a very hard decision for me,  but all the pre-test indicate that I need the surgery.
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