GERD & h-Pylori

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CPA-Kim
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   Posted 10/10/2012 6:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been taking PPIs (Aciphex) for 10 years and the GERD has been in check.  about a month ago I had some bad episodes and it caused heart palpitations so bad I went to the ER.  Upon follow up with my gastro he did an Upper GI scope and found mild, distal, esophageal erythema consistent with reflux, hiatus hernia, polyps, slight bile stained gastric juice and normal duodenum.  The biopsy of polyps showed hyperplastic consistent with long-term use of PPIs.
 
The surprise was that the biopsy also showed H.pylori.  From what I've researched and his confirmation, the symptoms of H.pylori and GERD are different.  I may have had the H.pylori for years.  Anyway, I'm allergic to many of the antibiotics used in the treatment and I want to work on my GERD before attempting anything involving huge doses of antibiotics.
 
I have two questions:
 
1.  Has anyone had success with DGL.  I took it years ago before I went on a PPI but can't remember how I did with it.
2.  Does anyone have both GERD and H.Pylori?  How are you treating it?
 
I already purchased "Dropping Acid" and am on induction.  Still taking 20mg aciphex and about 12 Gaviscon tablets each day.  I have a heart arrhythmia, fibromyalgia and Meniere's disease so I have to be very careful of what I eat, when I eat and new meds.
 
Thanks for any help you can be.
 
God Bless,
 
Kim

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 10/11/2012 2:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi

I thought Helicobacter symptoms overlapped a lot with GERD? There is one argument, and some evidence, that Helicobacter protects against reflux - it might be worth asking if there is any chance the treatment could worsen your symptoms?

Having said that, I think they usually eradicate Helicobacter if they can. Two of my friends had their symptoms totally cleared up after the eradication treatment.

I used DGL very successfully in 2007, taking it in capsule form. I came off the drugs and stayed symptom free for 3 years. When the symptoms came back in 2010 the DGL didn't help at all - I've no idea why though.

Since then I've used chewable DGL for relief of morning nausea.

Hope you find some relief with the new diet,

MMM
New stuff: GERD, Recurrent cystitis/Overactive bladder
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

CPA-Kim
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Date Joined Oct 2012
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   Posted 10/11/2012 2:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for your response. I did a lot of research prior to seeing the gastro to review my scope results. We discussed my findings and his experience. He admitted that treatment could worsen GERD, especially with my history of low tolerance to antibiotics and many things upsetting my stomach. We ended up agreeing to try to get the GERD under control (because of the heart arrhythmia), then treat Helicobacter with Cipro, Tet, Bismouth, and double up on PPI.

I think I'll try DGL to see if it helps at all with the GERD. I don't think it can hurt.

The smaller, high Ph means are helping. I'm trying to eat slow and I think that helps too.

I talked with my niece last night and she claims some of her family and friends were dx with Hpylori and were symptomatic. She said their symptoms went away after treatment. She didn't know what their exact symptoms were and she didn't know if they were re-tested.

There are so many opinions, studies, and experiences that the more I read, the more confusion and information overload I get.

Thanks again for taking the time to respond,

Kim
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