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Yolee
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   Posted 10/20/2012 2:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I know a lot of members on here have asthma I am curious if you had it before your gerd came along?
Thanks in advance for any answers!
Thanks
Take care always!
Yolee

dencha
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   Posted 10/20/2012 3:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Yolee,
My asthma has been with me since childhood with a bit of a remission during young adulthood.  about 7 years prior to my surgery, I had a reflux episode (due to stomach issues after taking an antibiotic) that put me in the hospital with uncontollable asthma. 
 
about 15 years ago my PCP realized that my asthma was being made worse by reflux, and he put me on Prilosec.  When that didn't work he switched to Nexium, and during my hospital stay, I was moved to Protonix.
 
That's why I had the surgery, and thankfully, it worked great, and my lungs are as healthy as an allergic asthmatic can get!  My inhaled steroid has been reduced to a fraction of what it was prior to surgery, and I haven't had a nebulizer treatment since my Nissen.  I just wish I'd had the surgery much sooner.  Oh well, hindsight is 20-20, as they say.
 
Keep in mind that reflux is not brought to zero after the surgery, or we wouldn't be able to swallow and get things past the wrap.  Therefore, my asthma doc wants me to continue 40mg Protonix before dinner, as well as keep the head of my bed elevated to ensure that my sensitive lungs are protected from a small errant reflux episode.  Small price to pay...I'm just happy to be healthy again.
 
Good luck!
Denise
Words of wisdom by Eckhart Tolle:
"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”

Yolee
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   Posted 10/20/2012 3:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for replying Denise! I just wonder if I wait too long to do anything about my symptoms because ppi's don't do much for me if it can turn into asthma eventually.

I'm glad you are doing so well now!
Thanks
Take care always!
Yolee

dencha
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   Posted 10/20/2012 3:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Yolee,
Are you having asthma symptoms now?  Have you had a 24hr PH monitor, and if so, was the score very high?  People with severe reflux (mine wasn't) can actually develop COPD, rather than asthma, since the acid (if it's actually spilling into or getting misted regularly) can do actual damage to the lung tissue.
 
A member who used to post here (LadyJane) ended up with permanent lung damage before they finally discovered what was going on.   Keep in mind that she had very bad breathing problems, an that was the most severe symptom of her reflux.  She ended up going to Denver Jewish Hospital. It's considered the #1 Respiratory Hospital in the nation. Here's the link:   http://www.nationaljewish.org/
They were the ones who diagnosed her and recommended a Nissen.  She was told that if she didn't have the surgery she was headed toward being disabled by her lungs.
 
A little reflux?  Not much risk.  A lot of reflux that is creating breathing problems is another story.  I did not get permanent damage, thankfully, but my lungs were already messed up with asthma and allergies.  That's my struggle, and I'm continuing to look for answers.  Lots of allergy shots--and in the past 2 years the strength of the serum has been doubled twice.  Hopefully they'll get it right.
 
Good luck with your search for answers!
Denise
Words of wisdom by Eckhart Tolle:
"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”

Yolee
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Date Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts : 127
   Posted 10/20/2012 5:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Not asthma symptoms I don't think, just shortness of breath but never had that issue before. I have an endo on Tuesday and I also have to to the PH monitor I just haven't scheduled it yet. I will schedule that on Tuesday while I'm there.

Really I actually live in Denver, so that's good to know about National Jewish! Did she have a successful surgery done here, do you know? That would just be good to know where or who the surgeon was if hers was successful. Surgery would be last resort for me but I know finding a good surgeon can be hard if that's the route I have to go.
Thanks Denise!
Thanks
Take care always!
Yolee

dencha
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   Posted 10/20/2012 7:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Yolee,
She didn't have the surgery there, just the diagnosis...she's from Michigan, and traveled to Cleveland Clinic for the surgery.  She's always recommending that I go to Nat'l Jewish in Denver for my lungs, but I don't feel the need right now.  Since my surgery, my lungs have been good. 
 
Lucky you, to have that great resource in your own hometown! 
Good luck with your endoscopy and PH monitor test. I'll look forward to hearing how things go.  I agree that surgery should be the very last resort.  It certainly was for me...I just wish I'd pushed for it sooner.
 
Take care,
Denise

Yolee
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   Posted 10/20/2012 8:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Denise you are so kind! It's nice to have support from here with all these strange symptoms and doctors not so helpful.
Thanks
Take care always!
Yolee

greatunclebill
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   Posted 10/20/2012 9:32 PM (GMT -6)   
to answer the original question i've had gerd since age 21 (hiatal hernia w/reflux). my asthma didn't come along til age 60, 3 years ago (adult onset).
gout, sleep apnea, asthma, copd, high BP & cholesterol, Gerd, light headedness, muscle weakness.

Yolee
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Date Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts : 127
   Posted 10/20/2012 10:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks greatunclebill! Did you ever have surgery or do you just deal with it? Were you ever a smoker? I smoke I'm on medicine to quit now and I'm doing ok smoking less than before and hope to quit by Thanksgiving well that's my goal. I know that's most of my problem....
Thanks
Take care always!
Yolee

Post Edited (Yolee) : 10/20/2012 10:02:34 PM (GMT-6)


mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 10/21/2012 12:57 PM (GMT -6)   
I've had asthma since childhood, well controlled on a low dose steroidal inhaler. Unfortunately the long acting reliever inhalers (e.g. Seretide) relax the LES and can aggravate GERD. In turn, as you know, GERD can aggravate asthma. I reduced my inhalers out of concern for my LES, with my doctor's help. They agreed I should have stepped down previously as there was no problem on the lower dose, which I've been on for over a year now.

Both conditions can be very serious and can aggravate each other, but in my case they seem to rub along side by side, with the GERD being the bigger nuisance and the asthma being a background issue!

MMM
New stuff: GERD, Recurrent cystitis/Overactive bladder
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

dencha
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   Posted 10/21/2012 1:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi MMM,
I've always thought my reflux was made worse by the asthma meds (short and long-term bronchodilators).  Unfortunately it's a vicious cycle...one making the other worse.  The asthma is the reason I got the surgery, and it has definitely made a huge positive impact on my lung health.  Unfortunately, I still remain highly allergic and deal with that issue always.
Hope all is well with you!
Denise
PS...Yolee...congrats on quitting smoking.  It's a great first step and will definitely help your lung.  Yay!
Words of wisdom by Eckhart Tolle:
"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”

Yolee
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Date Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts : 127
   Posted 10/21/2012 2:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks everyone! :-)
Thanks
Take care always!
Yolee

greatunclebill
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Date Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts : 144
   Posted 10/21/2012 2:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Yolee said...
Thanks greatunclebill! Did you ever have surgery or do you just deal with it? Were you ever a smoker? I smoke I'm on medicine to quit now and I'm doing ok smoking less than before and hope to quit by Thanksgiving well that's my goal. I know that's most of my problem....
i smoked for several years and quit. no surgery. 42 years ago, rolaids was about the best medicine. i've worked my way thru all the medicines, currently using prilosec twice a day.
 
you will either love me or hate me, but i feel very strongly about this page i wrote for my personal website several years ago. i know iot has helped some, because i have gotten feedback. for what it's worth, here it is copied and pasted:
 
So you want to quit smoking? It is very easy to do when you really want to quit. The key to quitting is a strong desire to quit. If you don't have a strong desire to quit, don't fool yourself, it will never happen no matter what you try. If you don't really want to quit, close this page and light up another cigarette now. Come back when you're ready.

Never, ever fool yourself into thinking that you are going to quit smoking for someone else, because they think it is bad for you. This never works. Stand up for yourself and quit or don't quit for your own reasons.

If you really do want to quit, stop right now on the spot. It's that easy. If you can't or don't want to do it right now, you're not really ready for whatever reason and may as well close this page and light up.

If you quit right now, cold turkey, you can expect strong desires for a smoke to last a long time. The key is to work through them.

In 72 hours the nicotine will be completely gone from your body. Until that time the desires will be physical. Your body craves the nicotine. This 72 hours is the hardest part.

After 72 hours, the nicotine and all of the physical cravings will be gone. This is why patches, gum and gradual reduction don't work. With them you keep getting nicotine in your system and eventually resume smoking, sometimes years later.

But you still have mental cravings. You find out that you didn't smoke because you wanted a cigarette, you smoked because you sat in the chair or got in the car, etc, not because you wanted a cigarette. It's called a habit.

To break the smoking habit you have to also break your other habits. For instance when you're done eating, sit in a different chair. You will still get the urges, but not as strong as the favorite chair. When the urges come up, just say no. They will come often and you'll have to constantly say no, but over time they will come less frequently and less strong. If you can't control the urges, suck on a straw, it has the same effect. Remember, at this point the mental urges are to do something with your mouth and hands as the physical addiction of the nicotine is long gone.

Keep cigarettes within your reach. This is important. If you're serious, you won't touch them. If you're not really serious about quitting, light up and forget all of this.

And lastly, don't tell every person you know that you quit. They will figure it out themselves. The more you talk about it, the more they will talk about it. And the more it comes up, the harder it is to stay quit. And never, ever say you're trying to quit. By saying you're trying to quit you are telling yourself and everyone else that you have not quit completely. Always say you have quit. Period.

I know this works, because Jackie and I lived through it exactly this way at different times in our lives. How long have we quit? It just doesn't matter anymore, because we quit forever and ever. Dates are unimportant. After a while, clean everything in your house. The nicotine has gotten into the car, carpet, furniture, clothing and everything else. You will smell the difference.

Good luck.


dencha
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   Posted 10/21/2012 3:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow, greatunclebill!
What great advice!  I know you are helping many with that information.
Thanks so much for sharing!
Denise

Yolee
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   Posted 10/21/2012 3:33 PM (GMT -6)   
You are exactly right! Honestly the wellbutrin helps with the urge already so I just need to do it, and I am!
Thanks
Take care always!
Yolee
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