The New Guy.. help with GERD

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weston530
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   Posted 11/27/2012 7:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi guys, new to the forum but have read quite a bit on here. Which can be very educational, as well as very grim! I'd like to share whats happening with you guys and get any feedback for something I might be overlooking.

I have had bad GERD symptoms for about 3 months. 28yo/male. Recently they have gotten to the throat burning everyday, bed raised, always feeling it situation.

First attack happened about 4 months ago, woke up in the middle of the night with harshly burning throat feeling and started taking 2 zantac 150s/Day. I did that for about a month then got my doc to switch me to Nexium generic. It was working out okay, not really getting rid of the symptoms but certainly making them less noticeable. After 8 weeks of nexium he decided to try tecta, which really didn't work. Then put be back on nexium and motillium. So far today its just as bad as it was the first day, perhaps worse since the burning throat won't subside.

A few years back (2009 I think) I had a similar epidsode. Kind of struck me out of no where. (When i say no where I mean the middle of the summer while I was enjoying beer and food more often than normal, same as in this case 2012) In 2009 it took 4 months to get a endoscopy done, and by the time it came around I was completely fine, and the results were fine as well. That time I was on Nexium for only 1 month.

The endoscopy I have booked now is not till June! (Canadian health care.. but hey its free)

So am I bit worried this time I just did in my LES and its never going to heal or get better. Im not sure if that is the case. And I take the internet forums with a grain of salt because people who feel better don't often come back to say how great they feel. They move on with their life and stop googling acid reflux.

First off.. is there any way to fix this? Right now im trying to eat things that dont bother it much. 12 grain bagels, salad with no dresing, wheaty cereal with skim milk. I have never smoked, I am losing about some pounds per week cause im not eating much with the GERD. (6 foot male, weighing about 160lbs, when this first hit 4 months ago it was closer to 185lbs)
I'm not drinking coffee, at all.
I do love beer, and I have tried to stay away from it entirely. On the weekends I might have 4-6 overall. It feels okay when I do, but days after it may feel worse. Its hard for me to pinpoint where the pain came from.

Also sometimes, this hasn't happened lately, I will get what I think is a Esophageal Spasm where from a movement or sudden lift, it feels like a sword or pound of bricks in my chest for several hours. Happened real bad once on a stressful day and since hasn't been as bad.

I was tested for H. pylori in the beginning and wonder if I could have got it since?

Also, is it bad to take Nexium with Zantac 75s?

I've read some encouraging posts about getting off meds. I gave it a go for week, but I could almost eat nothing and the burn was worse. I worry about barrets a little bit, so I decided to hop back on nexium (not generic).

That was a lot for you to read, if you made it this far thanks. I think venting makes it better. Sick of bothering my family and friends with the negatives.

Dan idea

Johnah
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   Posted 11/27/2012 8:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I knew you were Cdn when you mentioned 12 grain bagels :) Timmy's right !!

Reality is reflux is a disease and you can treat the symptoms but you can't really cure it unless you get to the point of surgery. That means lifestyle changes like very limited alcohol, no coffee, diet changes, sleeping on a wedge or raised bed and taking some meds to decrease acid production. You can fight it but you probably can't win. It might go away but if you don't change your lifestyle it will come back. Age is also a big factor, your young to have this , better to start taking care of yourself now so you don't end up with Barrets or worse.

H. pylori is an issue with stomach ulcers , not so much with reflux.

Yes you can take Zantac with Nexium, many do including myself. Doctors actually recommend it at bedtime as the method of action may protect you thru the night better than a PPI like Nexium.

Really surprised you have to wait for a endoscopy until June. I'm Cdn and had mine within a month of my referral to a GI by my GP. I hadn't even saw the GI guy yet, he did his interview for my endoscopy at my bedside just before I went in to have it. I was not pushed ahead or anything just a routine endoscopy, which showed no damage. That seems like an awful long time to wait.

couchtater
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   Posted 11/27/2012 8:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I was on 80mg of nexium with 300mg of zantac at bedtime. But please ask your doctor if this is safe for you. High doses of PPIs especially nexium causes a side effect of vitamin loss and stomach polyps.

I'd leave the beer off until you're settled down with your reflux. Think... you have a sore and you pour alcohol on top of it, now refer it to your acid washed esophagus that is inflammed. OUCH!
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weston530
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   Posted 11/27/2012 8:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks guys. Johnah Yes timmies for sure! Little cucumber on there helps it go down nice too. Thats what I keep reading it... lifer. It subsided in such a pleasant way for 3 years. Wish that would happen again! I would be nicer to it I swear. I used to drink so much diet pepsi as a younger adult and kid.. i think it did this to me. I didn't touch the stuff since 2009. Some Fresca did find its way back in before latest attack.. May have pushed it over the edge.

Couchtater - That is a lot of stuff. Were you on that amount for only a little while or still keeping that routine?

The beer thing. Is really hard. I enjoy craft beers from all over. But with the pain, its easy to put it down and say no thanks. The coffee, the fatty stuff, eating out, eat small meals.. was easy in comparison.

weston530
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   Posted 11/27/2012 8:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Also Johnah - Where did you get your scope done?

merry5363
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   Posted 11/27/2012 9:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I am CND and also got my endoscopy within a month at the Oakville Endoscopy Clinic. If you are in Toronto, try calling the Rudd Clinic and ask what the wait times are. Sometimes, going out of the city to a GTA clinic can be faster.

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 11/28/2012 9:09 AM (GMT -6)   
I know you are a beer drinker, but between the carbonation, and the PH level of 4, plus the wheat (which is fatty) you are asking for trouble. I had to give up the beer too. I used to love going to Beer Festivals but I had to give them up sadly. I am able to tolerate coconut or vanilla rum mixed with water (I use a high PH water called Evamore).
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weston530
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   Posted 11/28/2012 5:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Looking to find a clinic to get me in sooner. I will try that one.

I passed on a few friends heading to portland this weekend for a beer festival.

Another question, do you guys generally get heartburn, right away after eating something that triggered it? Or is it delayed? sometimes even days?

I rarely get the real burn while on PPIs but more of a discomfort.

33mastomichael
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   Posted 11/28/2012 6:02 PM (GMT -6)   
hi ya johnah reflux is not i disease.... is a condition of the nervous system,vagus nerve.Look at my web site ,www.mfi-therapy.com. People only treat the symptoms caused by the nerve plexus behind the solar plexus.This nerve is connected to all our internal organs,and when it is restricted ailments like ibs reflux happen . THIS AFFECTS HOW THE BODY OBSORBS ENERGY thus affecting what food we eat.

Johnah
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   Posted 11/28/2012 7:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Weston I am in the Windsor area.

I always hear these horror stories about wait times but rarely experience them. I can remember my GP wanting to have a MRI done on my neck, non-emergency, thought well this will be awhile. Had it done
in two days. I know there are delays but for me our health system has been pretty good over the years. I am a little ticked that it seems our only option surgery wise for this is a Fundoplication, the TIF and Lynxx system aren't available here. Seems we are too small of a market for them to try to get approval in Canada. If I do go for surgery at some point I may consider paying for it and going to the U.S.. That's down the road yet though.

"33" reflux is a disease, G E R D , that's what the D stands for in the name.

merry5363
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   Posted 11/28/2012 8:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Says on the web site average wait time is 3 weeks. Not sure where you are in Canada,

33mastomichael
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   Posted 11/29/2012 4:54 AM (GMT -6)   
johnah ........ look up reflux defense their over there where you are some where ,or look up my testimonials where i treat and cure the condition. BEST OF LUCK .

weston530
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   Posted 11/29/2012 7:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Any tips for avoiding weight loss?

I have a bit more to spare before I look frail, but i don't think it's a good look. With the pain I haven't been lifting weights either.

My understanding is sugar isnt much of a trigger so things with sugar and no fat are a good place to start? What about non fat frozen yogurt or something?

Dan

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 11/29/2012 4:09 PM (GMT -6)   
try soy ice cream it is lower in fat and very good. stick to low fat, low acid and you could go gluten free which has helped me as well.
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