Anxiety About This Making It Worse/Vent

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thegspeak
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   Posted 12/13/2012 1:56 PM (GMT -6)   
so I've always been a little anxious and very anxious about my health. Every time something was wrong i'd immediately assume the worst. Sometimes I was right but nothing as bad as this.
So last week Dr. K put me on Elavil. I'm up to 20 mg a night. I don't know if it's a weird coincidence but I've been feeling very strange. first of all i have this other worldly feeling when i drive. Like i'm not quite in my body. It scares me esp. in the car.

I also get confused and have little memory of things that happened earlier in the day. I can bring myself back but i'm definitely extremely spacey. This used to happen as a kid (kind of am mild dissociative thing) when I was scared or anxious. I don't know if it's all the stress from the LPR or the Elavil.

I'm TERRIFIED of the 24 hour probe. i can handle the needles in the throat test more easily than that wire hanging out on my face. I have about a month before i even have to go do it but i'm just so scared maybe that's what's making me feel this way?

Speaking of that 24 hour PH thing why is it so necessary? Ugh sorry, i just got back from my doctor i was convinced all the coughing had given me pneumonia (as if that is even possible) and when she told me my lungs were clear as a bell I knew i had to get a grip on this anxiety.

I'm sure most of us are anxious about it. How to learn to manage it better?

drtinsac
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   Posted 12/13/2012 8:40 PM (GMT -6)   
The thing to remember is that anxious feelings are there so that you can learn to focus on other things. What will make things worse is trying to figure out why you are anxious or trying to stop being anxious. Focusing on it in any way will just keep it around.. and YOU CANNOT OUT-THINK ANXIETY. Thinking about it is a trap! The key is to "accept".. how you "accept" is you remind yourself that you are supposed to accept it (and NOT fight it), and you focus on something else. Singing, a book, a movie, exercise etc. Exercise is a good one when you are feeling anxious because it causes release of chemicals which are relaxing.

If you've ever tried meditation, it often consists of focusing on the breath, how it feels going in and out. The mind is SUPPOSED TO take attention off the "boring" breath onto your worries, anxieties, things to do, the future etc. That is what all minds do, period. Your job in meditating is to practice accepting all that stuff by re-focusing your attention on your breath. That is acceptance.. leaving something alone and focusing on something else.

Another tactic is to act "as if". Do the behaviors of someone who isn't scared of a 24 hour probe (which in all honesty is no big deal), and likewise do not do the behaviors of someone who is obsessing about it. Don't look it up, don't write about it, don't tell your friends how scared you are. Forget about it, focus on something that brings you joy and not the 24 hour PH probe. If you need to run a thought through your mind, it should be rational such as "I probably will not enjoy the 24 hour probe, no one else enjoys it either, but many people have been through it and no one I know about has had any lasting effect from it. It will help in my diagnosis so that eventually I'll be more comfortable. I can put up with 24 hours of minor discomfort for that." Make that rational statement your only response to any feelings or intrusive thoughts, then FOCUS ELSEWHERE. Again, trying to out-think the issue, or out-think the feelings, is a huge trap.

This is a chapter from a GREAT book on dealing with life rationally, it's on "worry". The whole book is available on the website, posted by the author.

www.threeminutetherapy.com/chapter2.html

Post Edited (drtinsac) : 12/13/2012 6:45:27 PM (GMT-7)


drtinsac
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   Posted 12/13/2012 8:43 PM (GMT -6)   
BTW, I tried elavil too, 25mg, as an attempt to correct "hypersensitivity". It did not help with my GERD at all, but I also felt the kind of spacy drowsy feeling, especially for the first week or so. Since it wasn't helping my GERD I stopped.

belljar1995
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   Posted 12/13/2012 9:04 PM (GMT -6)   
When I was in college (way long ago), I took nortryptyline (sp?) for some anxiety/mild depression. This drug is similar to elavil (tricyclic). It also made me feel sort of dissociated, but I actually felt extremely calm and my stomach felt great after a few days. So, I think some spacey-ness is pretty common--but be careful, especially if you are driving around.

I don't know about that needles in the throat thing. Dr. K wanted me to do that too . I then consulted with a swallowing doctor at New York Eye & Ear Hospital (Pittman) who really thought the test was useless--so I did not do it. Now Dr. K does lots of presentations at NY Eye and Ear--so I thought it was interesting that I got the response from the swallowing doctor about the test--but I was very glad not to do it.

The 24 hour thing is not supposed to be painful--just weird and of course, you have a tube taped to your face for a day.

I gad some severe vocal cord issues last year due to reflux and this time when I went back to Pittman, things are looking pretty good--so I do think the condition can be brought under control, but it takes a lot of time and then unfortunately sometimes the condition worsens in other areas in some people--but I can agree that anxiety only makes things tons worse.

thegspeak
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   Posted 12/14/2012 8:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks everyone. I know how to meditate and love yoga :( which I can't do now but the whole idea of anxiety being a trap really hit home....that is something I think I can try to do...i did it today actually.

Belljar I wish Pittman was my doc right now!

Did he say why it was useless? I mean that's a pretty horrible thing to have to do if it's useless. I am not changing docs because I gave Dr. K a giant check and I love a doc who let's me text :)

So you have LPR? What was your major symptom? What did you mean when you say " the condition worsens in some areas"

My symptoms seem to change every day. Some days are mucousy (sorr), some days are vapor acidy (those are the worst), and the dry mouth where I can't swallow and i just started getting the globus thing which is always fun. Is that what you mean?

belljar1995
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   Posted 12/14/2012 10:43 PM (GMT -6)   
I think he said that it is controversial in terms of the results and what it can show . In some cases it might be useful (according to him), but I think only if speaking is severely impacted.

My LPR symptoms is sore throat with significant swelling. I've been able to keep it under control for about a year, but when my throat swells, I am unable to swallow well and it's very unpleasant. I am also constantly congested and my voice goes out after speaking for a period of time. By the end of the day, I am totally hoarse.

I've noticed that my symptoms too can change--Oct-Dec is my terrible flare time--other times in the year are more manageable. Last year it was mostly throat issues. This year, the throat is better but I am plagued with chest burning and pressure. I think it is common for GERD and LPR people to suffer a variety of symptoms.

I liked Kaufman, but Pittman takes my insurance !!(Kaufman did submit as I have an out of network plan--but between deductible/etc, just too $$$$). You know, they are both good--just very different styles and philosophies--but interestingly, I think both are very "pro surgery". One of the first things Pittman said to me was that I probably need surgery and Kaufman last year said I would improve, but often things do progress and she told me that was what happened to her and she ended up with Nissen. Pittman also referred me to a decent GI (Kaufman didn't seem to think GI would help much).

So if anything you are in aggressive hands!

stkitt
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   Posted 12/15/2012 3:34 PM (GMT -6)   
 
Hello and this is Kitt.  You may want to check out the Anxiety Forum as the many members in that forum know a lot about anxiety and the many ways to deal with it in your life.
 
I understand why your terrified of the probe test as I suspect that would be one test I would have a bit of trouble with. I wish you the best.
 
Kindly,
Kitt
 
 
~~Kitt~~
Moderator: Anxiety, Osteoarthritis,
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