Laparoscopic Nissen fundoplication operation in two days

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rayzoray
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   Posted 12/17/2012 1:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello everyone!
I am so glad I found this board, can I start by saying that I am absolutely petrified by this operation, probably not helped by me watching the procedure on youtube, I am a 42 year old male with an allergy to hospitals. I have suffered for over 25 years with acid reflux and I am sick now of it controlling my life, I will keep you updated on my op, if there is no response after a couple of days take it the procedure did not go well.
cry

IlliniFan
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   Posted 12/17/2012 7:45 AM (GMT -6)   
it is normal to be nervous about an surgery. Stop watching and thinking about all the non norm things that can happen. This is just a small bump in your life and one that will alleviate symptoms that have been bothersome for years. Focus on that aspect. You will be surprised how easy this is going to be.

dencha
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   Posted 12/17/2012 7:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Razorray,
 
Relax...stop watching YouTube surgeries, and know that we'll be here to answer questions ans support you through your surgery and recovery!
 
You probably already saw it, but here's my early recovery journal:
 
You'll do just fine, so I expect we'll be seeing you posting after surgery.  At that time, we'll be welcoming you to our Wrapped Club!
 
Best wishes!
Denise
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"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

1 day at a time
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   Posted 12/17/2012 11:58 AM (GMT -6)   
Hang in there. I had my nissen 28 days ago. It has been a little bit of a bumpy recovery, but I'm sure you'll do well. Many folks only post bad outcomes or experiences on the internet, while ppl who do well don't say anything. Try to relax and remember that once it's done, you'll be on your way to a better quality of life.
Take care turn

couchtater
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   Posted 12/17/2012 12:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I had my surgery 3 yrs ago on the 22nd. I had an allergy to hospitals too. I had not been in the hospital since I was born and the ER for 2 minor things.

I was terrified of the surgery, but coming here and talking to others like Bill, Denise, and Kitt helped me.

The day of the surgery you'll come in and dress in a very breezy gown. They'll ask a lot of questions, put in an IV, and roll you to pre-op. If you're nervous they can give you something to help you. After more questions and a couple of shots in your IV they roll you in the OR. Lots of masked people and huge overhead light. It looks like a UFO! LOL!
You're slid over on the table while this is happening they are already giving you a shot to knock you out in 2 seconds.
You'll wake up very groggy, thirsty, and some pain. They can't give you anything until you're fully awake for fear of you choking on it.
After you're alert enough they'll move you to your room to rest. You may have compression boots on your legs. I had to wear them for the entire visit. The sooner you get up and walk around the sooner you can leave and it will help relieve some of the gas pressure.

Make sure you have someone at home to pick you up and watch after you for the first few days. You'll probably sleep most of the time. Stay with liquids for the first days.
I'd go through it all again if needed.

You will do fine.
Joy
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Pick them up and throw them right back at them! :))

Nal
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   Posted 12/17/2012 8:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I had my surgery Dec 3, 2011.  One year.  I still have some rough spots with it but acid reflux was not my only digestive issue to begin with.
 
I went in for my surgery and my dr was wonderful.  When I woke up I was sore, had a sore throat too.  I was really bloated but they gave me some stuff to kinda help with that.  I also had a tube down my throat for 2 days to help keep my stomach pumped because I was having a terrible time with nausea.
 
I went home 3 days later.  It was not an easy recovery.  The hospital I was at made me eat some mild solid foods before I could go home.  I would not recommend that at all!!  Take your time on the liquid diet.  Really, that will help you heal faster!  Plus do take your pain medications if prescribed!!!  Those meds are not just designed to help with pain, but they also help with inflammation and as soon as you get that under control you will feel better quicker.
 
Wishing you all the best!!  Please do give us an update when you can

couchtater
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   Posted 12/17/2012 9:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Not everyone will get an NG tube. I had no NG tube or a catherter.
I made sure they gave me phenagan before the surgery, during the surgery and after the surgery. I also had liquid phenagan to ride home with and for the next year recovery. I still have some in my purse for emergencies.
Joy
Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Glaucoma, Asthma, Hypothyriodism, Sleep Apnea, Degenerative Disk and Facet Disease, and Allergies

When life throws you lemons....
Pick them up and throw them right back at them! :))

dencha
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   Posted 12/17/2012 10:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi razoray,
I didn't have an NG tube either.  If I was catheterized it was while I was out cold.  It was removed before my recovery.  I wondered if I'd have an NG tube as I'd read about it here, but awoke in the recovery room without one.
It's true what they say...
Everybody's different!
Denise
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Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

rayzoray
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   Posted 12/18/2012 11:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank You all! well the day has arrived!! just going to get a shower before I set off for the hospital in Liverpool, UK. This board really does help, knowing that you people have come out the other end really helps. I am trying to remember everything you have all said on this board, I really just want it over with know and return home to my family.
My little girl is very close to me and she frets when I am even in the bathroom! I am currently drinking lots of water while I can and hopefully just had my last 30mg of Lansoprazole .
I will keep you updated, for my sake and maybe to pass on my experience, I have suffered this reflux pain for 25 years! no more!!!
Gulp!
I am scared though!

Take care all!!

Ray........Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

mummye
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   Posted 12/19/2012 5:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Ray - Good luck you will be absolutely fine. Yes the recovery is slow but I can honestly say even with some mild set backs and the side effects I have been left with, I would do it again at the drop of a hat. I am also in Liverpool, UK and had my op in March this year at the Royal Liverpool Hospital. After care not the best but then I am not one for complaining and just get on with dealing with things.

This forum was a great source of information for me before and after and would not have coped without it. So would say a great big thank you to everyone involved and wish you all a Happy and healthy Christmas and New Year
Regards
Eileen xxx

rayzoray
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   Posted 12/21/2012 3:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Everyone!
Well I am at the other side! I will share my experience with you.
Day of operation: I arrived at the hospital feeling sick with anxiety, though strangely enough I had a sense of I want to rid myself of this constant gnawing reflux pain and my dependency on Lansoprazole which I had been taking for 25 years and I am only 42!

Anyway I checked in the hospital and advised the staff my plan was for me to go home that night so as not to be away from my family, they gave me a nodding smile obviously realising I had never had surgery before and so thankfully they just humoured me.

I was alone in the waiting area apart from other patients having various types of surgery; it felt like a cattle market a constant conveyer belt into theatres I believe there where 59 operations scheduled in for that day. The NHS in England has its critics but I have nothing but praise for this organisation.
Anyway I waited my turn to see the anaesthetist he seem quite a jolly fellow a little red eyed but hey it is the part season I thought, I remembered something that I had read on this board about asking him would my anaesthetic contain anti-nausea drugs he smiled and told me it would contain a combination of 3! This really does highlight the danger of vomiting during or after this procedure. Anyway I was given my gown and stockings and told to change as I would be going to theatre within the hour.

I think this was my most difficult time, being there with my gown and hat and stockings on, I was really concerned about do I need to take a final visit to the toilet? Anyway after stressing on that for a while I never did have a chance to visit the toilet, I was taken to what seemed like a room full of spotlights, my nerves and sense of pure panic set in now, I was met by my bleary eyed anaesthetist and two female nurses who tried ever so hard to reassure me, asking me what I did for a living, I knew what was coming next! Anyway I told them I have a shop on eBay and use that to support myself and my family on eBay as I am also a full time minister being one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. I was asked what I am always asked “what do you sell”? as I started explaining I heard the dreaded phrase “sharp scratch” and in went the line, everything started to happen quickly now which I was happy about, the anaesthetist put a mask on me and told me it was just oxygen and just relax and go with it. I just lay there for what seemed like an eternity thinking to myself ha it’s not working is it? Just as that thought had been processed he said to me “I will just turn the tap on a little…”

I came around some four hours later, my operation went well though I found out I had a hiatus hernia which was also repaired this meant I had an extra procedure, I remember shouting “ I am going to be sick” this brought a flurry of nurses to me who quickly put something into my line, I felt like I was choking, this started to make me have a panic attack but I think they must of given me something else as I was quickly “silenced” thankfully.

I was put in my own private £250 per night suite as the hospital had no beds available, and so came around later looking at a lovely plasma tv and my private what looked like hotel room. The pain was manageable in fact I remember saying to the nurse” Reflux and a laryngospasm was far worse than this I felt proud that I had gone through with it and a huge sigh of relief, I was still out of it from the anaesthesia I was put on a drip and was able to call my family from my phone. I was really thitsty but was refused any water in case I vomited, I was put on a drip, but the pain was manageable, my biggest problem was not being able to deep breathe as my ribs really hurt, the surgeon later told me I had a large opening on my diaphragm which need some pounding and stitching and the pain would get worse and is normal. He told me that I looked well enough to go home that night if I wanted, I agreed without thought or hesitation. The surgeon in conversation told me the procedure cost £3,500 but he enjoys doing it due to the life changing effects it brings about; he thinks it is one of his easier procedures but one of his most satisfying in terms of relief.
I started to think about going home when the nurses encouraged me to stay in just one night, how right they were!
Throughout the night the pain started to kick in I was put on a pain killing drip and was given water with a straw to drink, I struggled to pass water which I was told is down to the anaesthetic, I am at home know still in pain, strangely enough though the pain is in my muscles, leg bum cheeks, and I still can’t deep breathe. I have had a lot of nose bleeds, oh before I forget I have been told not to lift or return to work for 2 months!! Until my surgeon gives me the OK, this is a nightmare as all my eBay stock is in crates. I have 5 bullet holes in my abdomen and I discovered a sixth hole which was a drain from my diaphragm. I am only able to tolerate yoghurts at the minute, and the pain is increasing, would I go through it again “Yes” in a heartbeat! I have had no heartburn since!! Whoooo!
I hope this helps, thank you all for your support, I am now fully wrapped!

Take Care

Ray

Post Edited (rayzoray) : 12/22/2012 2:00:17 AM (GMT-7)


eLaReF
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   Posted 12/21/2012 5:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Brilliant news Ray

I'm in the UK too and pleased to hear your op went OK.

Hope you have a relaxing holiday, and M&S do a really nice Christmas Soup (Turkey, veg, etc.) which you might be able to manage on the day - so you don't miss out too much.

Do take it easy though, it's easy to forget that you have major surgery when you only have a few small scars.

All the best.

Les.

dencha
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   Posted 12/21/2012 9:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi razoray,
Yay!  Welcome to the yeah yeah yeah Wrapped Club! yeah yeah yeah It sounds like you did great.  See? 
 
Your description of your experience is extremely detailed and that makes it so helpful to others who are considering surgery.  I have one request..would you mind going in and editing it with some paragraph breaks...just leave a space periodically between topics.  It makes it much, much easier to read.  It would be greatly appreciated!
 
When I saw they gave you water through a straw in the hospital, my potential bloat radar came on.  Steer clear of straws...they introduce unnecessary air into your stomach.  (Also, avoid carbonated drinks.)  There's not point in tempting fate!
 
You're now in the thick of the toughest part of recovery. Be sure to walk around your house as much as possible.  I don't know if you have any of the dreaded shoulder pain, but walking helps that a lot.
 
Also...stay away from very cold, iced drinks.  They can cause spasms.  During the next two to three weeks, your wrap will become increasingly more swollen, so don't be concerned or surprised if your swallowing gets worse before it gets better.
 
Stick around and ask whatever questions that come to mind.  We're here to help in any way we can!
Happy healing!
Denise
GERD/Heartburn Moderator
Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

rayzoray
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   Posted 12/22/2012 3:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi All

Just a quick update. I am really struggling with the pain now, I thought it was going to be easy I was wrong! the painkillers are making me dizzy and I have constant blood clots in my nose, Not being able to deep breathe is hard, and I am only managing 1 small bottle of water a day, is that OK?

Ray

New Life In Kissimmee
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   Posted 12/22/2012 5:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Ray

First, welcome to the wrapped club!

Second, I am 9 Weeks and 2 Days Post-Op - I assure you, that first week is the hardest and the best advice I can give you is to NOT fight the sleep.

I slept more during that 1st week than I have in my entire life. I realized the more I fought it, the dizzier (is that spelled right?) I felt.

I promise you - in a couple of days, the pain will virtually be gone and you'll be able to get off the pain meds and then you'll start feeling back to normal again.

turn

dencha
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   Posted 12/22/2012 9:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi ray,
Life in Kissimmee is exactly right.  The first week is challenging.  You've had major surgery.  It's hard to believe, since you've only got small tiny incisions, but your insides have been through a LOT.
 
I've been on this forum for nearly four years, and I can tell you that at your stage of recovery most people are very fearful and uncomfortable.  This is normal.  I remember my first week of recovery well.  The narcotic pain medication is the best thing for the early days.  You won't need it long.  Get some liquid Tylenol and use that once things settle down (and they will).
 
You'll probably want to continue with the narcotic pain med at night, since pains seem to magnify then.
 
If your pain is unusually difficult and your pain med isn't taking the edge off it, call your surgeon and let him/her know, so it can be changed/augmented.  Your surgeon doesn't want you to be extremely uncomfortable.  Still, some pain is to be expected post op.  Hang in there...
 
Good luck!
Denise
GERD/Heartburn Moderator
Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

rayzoray
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   Posted 12/25/2012 11:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi

I am starting to get reflux taste in the back of my throat! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

dencha
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   Posted 12/25/2012 11:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Ray,
It's not reflux...your swollen wrap is holding some food back and it's fermenting and causing you a pain that mimics reflux.  Relax...you've got a long healing process ahead.  Go with the flow.  I promise in the end it will all be good!
Patience,
Denise
GERD/Heartburn Moderator
Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

rayzoray
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   Posted 12/31/2012 8:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi All

I am just coming up to the two week post nissen, I have a problem with one of the keyhole entry holes leaking yellow/green fluid which is bearable, My main concern is though when I try to eat semi solids I get like a foamy substance coming up that I have to spit out, can someone give me some advice please as I am miserable.

Thank You in advance

Ray

dencha
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   Posted 12/31/2012 8:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Ray,
Your esophagus is producing that to protect itself in reaction to the irritation that is a result of the surgery and your eating.  Keep in mind that two weeks ago your upper GI tract was accosted by surgical tools and dramatically revised.  There is now a barrier keeping food from entering the stomach easily.  It takes some adjustment fo your body, but it will happen.
 
The biggest problem for you right now is that your wrap is reaching peak swelling.  After surgery, during the first two weeks or so, your wrap becomes increasingly swollen.  It creates spasming, discomfort, and keeps what you eat from entering the stomach easily.
 
It's very likely that whatever you eat at this point spends some time at the juncture between the esophagus and the stomach, then gradually makes its way through the wrap.  Often the esophagus becomes irritated because of this, as the food tends to ferment.  If you can take sips of room temperature or warm tea/water after eating, it can help push food the unyielding wrap.  This swelling will subside gradually once it has reached its peak.
 
I remember at one point in my early recovery I was making so much saliva as a result of irritation that I couldn't bear to swallow it all, since swallowing at that point was not all that comfortable.  I did a lot of spitting into tissues...I know, TMI!
 
Hang in there. You're at the roughest part of recovery.  It'll get better--promise!
Happy New Year!
Denise
GERD/Heartburn Moderator
Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

Post Edited (dencha) : 12/31/2012 8:18:21 AM (GMT-7)


rayzoray
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   Posted 12/31/2012 8:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks so much Denise, I have lots of tissues in my pocket!

Thank you again!

Ray

Andy1986
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   Posted 12/31/2012 10:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Keep us updated im interesed in how u get on!

Hope all settles down this week

opnwhl4
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   Posted 12/31/2012 11:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Ray-

Have you seen your surgeon about the fluid coming from your incision? What you described could be an infection.

Take care,
Bill
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Bubbles22
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   Posted 1/2/2013 8:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi, Ray

I'm 22 and I'm having this surgery on Monday. Have just found this board and reading your blog has been very helpful for me. I'm going in for the pre-op tomorrow so I'm sure I'll be getting lots of information about what to expect but your detailed first-hand account has been brilliant to read.
I'm pretty terrified not having had surgery before and I've never had to stay in a hospital since I was three and don't really remember that!
I know it will be a hard process in terms of recovery but seeing yours and everyone else's comments has given me great heart and the knowledge that I am doing the right thing. I haven't suffered with it for as long as you have, my symptoms occurred just over two years ago now, but after a dramatic lifestyle and diet change, being in pain everyday and the medication barely seeming to take effect any more, I'm getting utterly fed up of life and cannot wait to be acid free.

Hope your recovery is going well and you aren't in as much pain any more. Thank you for sharing your experience with us,
Sarah

dencha
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   Posted 1/2/2013 8:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Sarah,
Welcome to Healing Well!  Like you, I found this forum shortly before my surgery.  It's a great place to ask questions and get support from others who've "been there, done that"!
 
Here's a journal that I wrote here on the forum during my early recovery.  Hopefully it will provide you with an idea of what to expect.  If you have any question, no matter how small, be sure to ask it.  There are no stupid questions, only unasked ones!
 
I suggest that you write a brief intro of yourself and start your own thread on the main page with a title something like "Having Nissen Surgery on Monday".  That way people will be able to find your posts more easily.  Here's the link to the main page.
 
Click on the "Post New Topic" button at the top left of the page.
Good luck with your pre-op tests tomorrow!
Happy New Year!
Denise

GERD/Heartburn Moderator
Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle
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