Autoimmune Treatment

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Danno17
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   Posted 1/7/2013 10:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Anyone tried this product?

http://www.digestaqure.com/

If so, I'd love to hear the results and recommendations...

- Dan

couchtater
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   Posted 1/7/2013 11:37 PM (GMT -6)   
If you have an autoimmune disease there is no cure, only management.
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Pick them up and throw them right back at them! :))

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 1/8/2013 5:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Where is the evidence that GERD is an auto-immune disease??

Gastritis can be auto immune but I don't think that reflux is - unless I've missed something somewhere??

MMM
New stuff: GERD, Recurrent cystitis/Overactive bladder
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

Danno17
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   Posted 1/8/2013 8:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Well, I'm no expert, just ran across this while doing some research.
Looking at the customer feedback / testimonies, there are all kinds of cases that people claim to have found relief from their problems including GERD.

bcfromfl
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   Posted 1/8/2013 11:59 AM (GMT -6)   
I tried to look up the ingredients for their product, and all they'll admit is that it contains byproducts of Aloe.  Anytime a company doesn't provide details about the ingredients in a nutritional supplement, is reason enough to run the other way.  Academically, injesting an Aloe product to "cure" an auto-immune reaction will do nothing to stop said reaction.  The only way to stop a food intolerance is to eliminate the antagonistic foods.
 
Be VERY CAREFUL about being influenced by testimonials/reviews on the internet.  It is commonplace for smaller nutritional supplement companies to pay for "reviews!"
 
That said, after years struggling with GERD, my own studies, and discovering just recently that, concurrently along with GERD, I have developed an adult-onset intolerance to gluten and casein, I am firmly of the belief that most cases of reflux are, in fact, essentially a symptom of an auto-immune response.  I also have a diagnosis of eosinophilic esophagitis.  All the GI doctors I saw insisted that my moderate form of this condition was a response to the reflux, but this is simply not true.
 
The auto-immune responses to gluten and casein are insidious, and subtle, quite unlike an allergic reaction.  For those who are sensitive, the non-specific symptoms can be all over the map, from mild to severe, and cover a broad spectrum.
 
There was a member on this board several months ago who was struggling with GERD, and, mercifully, made this discovery and recovered.  She no longer posts here.
 
The most interesting study thus far was on the effect of beta caseins on dogs, which showed that the physiological response impeded gastrointestinal force and motility.  Perhaps extrapolated to a weakened LES in certain individuals?
 
Estimates of how many of the general population have some form of gluten and/or casein intolerance start at 10%, up to some guesses at 30%.
 
-Bruce

Danno17
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   Posted 1/8/2013 12:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Bruce !

I appreciate the educated reply......
The stuff is pretty costly so experimenting w/ different products requires a bit of research in it self.


Dan

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 1/8/2013 1:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Don't worry Danno - there's lots of stuff out there and we DO want to check out the new stuff!

As Bruce says, the ingredients are somewhat undefined.

I have food allergies, diagnosed over 20 years ago, and avoid wheat, cow's milk and egg. I pushed to get tested for eosinophilic infiltrations at my last 2 scopes but sadly the pathology showed only mild inflammation in the Antrum and the oesophagus. I still feel my gastritis must be linked to my allergies but I can't work out how, given that I'm already avoiding all my known allergens and my skin tells me very quickly when I'm not getting that right.

A major concern I have is that whilst on PPIs, and so without stomach acid, I am at increased risk of developing new allergies because the most allergenic protein based component of the food has not been denatured. It makes me wonder whether people with reflux problems who discover they have allergies or intolerances actually developed them whilst on medication to suppress stomach acid. And yet, babies and toddlers with reflux are tested for milk allergy - but no one transfers this to adult care of reflux!!

Bruce, I'm so glad you've made some progress and I hope you are starting to feel well.

MMM
New stuff: GERD, Recurrent cystitis/Overactive bladder
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

bcfromfl
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   Posted 1/8/2013 7:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Just a suggestion, MMM, and I'm sure you've investigated this. While EoE requires an endoscopy to take biopsies, an alternative would be blood and DNA analysis. While these methods are not 100% reliable, they might offer some "pieces to the puzzle." The DNA analysis can check for the celiac marker, and the blood tests can check for specific antibodies.

The antibodies won't be present in significant numbers if you're on a restriction diet for those antagonists.

Thank you for your well-wishes. I haven't resolved the GERD symptoms yet, but I'm still early in the diet having just discovered my sensitivity. (Doctors were absolutely of no help, and possible diagnoses ranged from hypothyroidism to andropause to brain tumor. I had been prescribed some extremely powerful pain killers.) I had become quite ill, but the other symptoms thankfully are improving.

-Bruce

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 1/9/2013 4:59 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't think I've had DNA tests and not sure if the main labs in the UK here do that routinely for allergies. I've had had blood test for coeliac as well as biopsy and blood tests for the allergies (RAST tests based on IgE). They don't completely correlate with what I have very strong skin reactions to, which results in a lot of debate because the hospital try to say I'm not "allergic" despite the acute skin reactions specific to those foods.

At my last appt they insisted my low scores were not due to low exposure - which isn't how I thought it worked at all and I disagree with them on that point.

I do hope you've turned a corner now with this new information - let us know how it goes. Good to see you around the forum again.

MMM
New stuff: GERD, Recurrent cystitis/Overactive bladder
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma
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