How I Relieved My Heartburn and My GERD Treatment Plan

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aeroguy
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   Posted 1/10/2013 4:43 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Guys,

I would like to share the things I do to help relieve my GERD and Heartburn. These things have allowed me to regain a normal healthy lifestyle.

1) Taking Probiotics (25 Billion) capsules. Initially I was taking a capsule a day but once I was feeling better (took 2-3 months) I decided not to take it daily. Now I take it occasionally.

2) Drinking Kale Juice. What I do is blend raw, washed kale in a blender with 2 cups of water and drink it. NOTHING works faster to relieve my GERD/Heartburn symptoms, you have to try this...believe me. I drink this every night before sleep.

Hopefully you guys can too regain your health. Wishing you the best and a happy new year.

sunbeam48
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   Posted 1/10/2013 7:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Someone else posted here who used cabbage juice, same plant family. They also swore by it.

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 1/11/2013 10:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Interesting. I found some in capsle form, I may as give it a try
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mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 1/11/2013 2:59 PM (GMT -6)   
I used to take a supplement that contained licorice and Cabagin - it seemed to fix my first encounter with GERD in 2007. Sadly it didn't do the same trick when it came back 3 years later! What are the capsules called Erica?

MMM
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Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

sunbeam48
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   Posted 1/11/2013 5:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Aeroguy, do you have daily heartburn? Have you experimented with freezing the juice, to see if it maintains its effectiveness?

Post Edited (sunbeam48) : 1/11/2013 5:01:31 PM (GMT-7)


ericapeace2000
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   Posted 1/11/2013 7:14 PM (GMT -6)   
It's called full spectrum kale I found it on amazon. It wasn't a lot of money, with shipping, less than 10 dollars. It's worth a shot!
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lpn4020
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   Posted 1/12/2013 6:01 AM (GMT -6)   
i have had GERD since i was 22,i'm now 65,nothing ever worked for the bile burning,i got in my throat,nose and ears,went to see the Dctor about have the stomach wrap done as this helped my son and my brother really well,when they got in there to do the wrap,found my stomach with a bunch of holes that were bleeding,they had to remove my stomach,so my intestines r attach to my espochus,and i still have problems with throwing up the bile not as often,just have to watch what i eat b 4 laying down,head elevated,the whole nine yards lkie everyone else has tried,i just tried the honey small teaspoon of it,seems to have quiet it down some,but mostly i just sit up till it goes away on it's own,cause i have tried everything,i find if i eat anything,it just makes matters worse,please anyone who has this problem see a Doctor,don"t lose ur stomach like i did,it's the pits not having one.

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 1/12/2013 10:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Erica, I'll look into that.

Don't worry LPN, we've all had our tests, multiple times, and we collectively nag any new comers who haven't been scoped!!

Am sorry to hear your stomach couldn't be saved - I wonder if some of your symptoms are in common with people who have had gastric banding for weight loss?

MMM
New stuff: GERD, Recurrent cystitis/Overactive bladder
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 1/12/2013 10:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Erica, how much did you buy?! It's out of stock now!!

MMM x
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Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 1/12/2013 10:09 AM (GMT -6)   
PS: One page I read about kale supplement says it binds bile acids - perhaps that's how it helps if someone has excess bile or bile reflux??

MMM
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Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 1/12/2013 10:46 PM (GMT -6)   
I only bought one bottle !
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ericapeace2000
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   Posted 1/12/2013 10:55 PM (GMT -6)   
MMM: I just checked amazon and it looks like they ate in stock. The company is Swanson and they are pills not powder
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mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 1/14/2013 3:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Erica

Sadly Amazon uk no longer have a stock of it. However I've managed to get some via an ebay seller! Let's report back on it in a couple of weeks :-)

MMM

Pat Tall
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   Posted 1/14/2013 10:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Aeroguy. Going to try your kale juice. Please tell me how much kale was used in two cups of water?

How many tablespoons did you consume and when?
Did you only take it at night?
Did you take it throughout the day?
Did you take it only when you had symptoms,-- or ongoing sips?

Can you blend a banana in the kale mix? Or other like carrot, cuke?

Thanks for more details. Welcome to the forum. We learn from each other.

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 1/14/2013 12:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Mine should be arriving soon, I will give it some time and then report back
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Pat Tall
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   Posted 1/14/2013 3:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Erica

sunbeam48
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   Posted 1/14/2013 7:35 PM (GMT -6)   
It sounds to me like Aeroguy is blending fresh kale from the grocery store, not a dried product.

lowcarbguy
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   Posted 1/15/2013 5:48 PM (GMT -6)   
-I have been reading this forum for a long time, and decided I should finally join. I just wanted to briefly share my story. I am 32 years old, and otherwise healthy. I hope my story inspires/encourages people to stop suffering and look for alternative cures.-I was over exerting myself at the gym 2 and a half years ago. I was trying to put on muscle mass. One day after the gym, food began sticking in my esophagus like nothing I have ever experienced. My physician suspected I had a hiatus hernia, and recommended I see a visceral specialist in his office in Seattle. I scoffed at the idea at first, but was experiencing so much discomfort that I went the following day. I saw the visceral specialist, and my stomach was pulled down with instant and dramatic relief.

-Most of my symptoms were corrected(less the occasional heartburn-a handful of times per month). I then moved to Portland(Portlandia), OR(1 year and 5 months ago), and starting experiencing similar symptoms again. I spoke with a naturopath who was trained by the originator of the hiatal hernia manipulation. He would perform the technique, and I would feel better for a month. I kept having to see him more frequently. He couldn’t understand why my hernia kept sliding back up into my diaphragm. I then sought out an osteopath. The osteopath tried to do the same thing with little result. Once, I drove myself to the ER because my voice was changing, and I felt like I was unable to breathe. I sat in the ER parking lot and decided to go home and manipulate my stomach like I saw on YouTube tutorials.

-I then decided to visit “one of the best gastroenterologists in Portland.” Through my research, I told him I thought I had a hiatal hernia. He highly doubted me. I was extremely frustrated as I had only experienced heartburn on a rare occasion growing up. We did an endoscopy and it was confirmed. I have a 3cm sliding hiatus hernia, and a non functioning les valve. He told me my options were a proton pump inhibitor or the Nissan Fundoplication. I asked him if he ever thought there would be a day when physicians would look back in horror that they performed these surgeries on otherwise healthy individuals? He said, “potentially.” He knew I enjoyed research, and asked me to look into the Linx Procedure through the Torax Medical Group.

-I didn’t know what the Linx was at first, but had already researched the Esophyx TIF procedure. I loved that the Linx could be reversed, and had a 45 minute operating time. I sought out the only surgeon in Oregon offering it at that time(approx. 7 months ago). She performed another endoscopy, a bravo test, and 2 manommetries. The first manommetry was about 2-3 months ago. I fit all of the inclusion criteria for the linx except that my results indicated I potentially had an esophageal motility disorder. I sent my tests to some additional doctor friends to interpret the data. They believe my tests to be inconclusive and blamed a faulty technician or faulty equipment. I spoke with my surgeon on the phone yesterday, and she has asked me to come in for another manommetry in 3 months as I stick to my low carb diet. Additionally, she said that she has seen hundreds of patients in the last ten years and agreed that GERD is definitely linked to diet. She also believed my results to be skewed.

***I should note that for the handful of months I was waiting to meet with the Linx surgeon, I refused to take a proton pump inhibitor and drank bragg’s organic apple cider vinegar(diluted with water) before each meal. It was strange but I could feel my les valve close every time I drank the organic vinegar. If I drank it before a meal, it relieved almost all of my symptoms and closed the valve. It was extremely tart, so I eventually succumbed to omeprazole. I got a call from the Linx surgeon who said I met the exclusion criteria for the Linx procedure. She was only on the fence with the strength of my esophagus, and asked me to come in for another mannometry. I went back in for the PH mannometry, was told, “you have the esophagus of a 70 year old”.

-Now devastated about the realization of having a partial or full nissen fundoplication, I did more research. I asked for a prescription of 10mg of omeprazole(which coincidentally isn't offered in the stores-go figure), and told myself I was going to get off these terrible drugs. Besides some alcohol I drank over the holiday, I have dramatically reduced my carbohydrate intake recently and have weaned myself off Prilosec. I have adopted a low "specific" carbohydrate diet according to the teachings of my hero, Dr. Norm Robillard(who I have seen posting on here years ago). I have been off omeprazole for 2 weeks with absolutely no reflux. I was on a proton pump inhibitor for 2 and half months before. This should be noted as weaning off omeprazole will take different times per individual. I feel extremely blessed. The only problem is that I don’t feel any movement in my les valve. My gastro and my surgeons originally laughed at me for my low carb diet. I now have no symptoms and have gotten their attention. The only problem I have remaining is that my les valve is open 24/7. I hope to use HCL tablets to get it to close soon. I would encourage everyone to check out the following links. I have no affiliation with either doctor. Additionally, I would love to hear your feedback.

http://digestivehealthinstitute.org/

http://www.nemechekconsultativemedicine.com/?page_id=1421

Pat Tall
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   Posted 1/15/2013 6:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Lowcarbguy. Welcome to our forum. There is a current thread on Dr Norms diet where many of us participate. Come on over and share us your knowledge and experience.

Pat Tall
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   Posted 1/15/2013 6:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Lowcarbguy. >>>> link to:

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=45&m=2594335&p=3

sunbeam48
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   Posted 1/16/2013 4:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Low Carb guy, there are exercises you can do to strengthen your LES. You take a deep breath, hold in in as long as you can without stopping the air flow like do do when you "hold your breath".

I also follow the Fast Tract low carb diet.

WJF
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   Posted 1/16/2013 8:17 AM (GMT -6)   
I drink cabbage juice too. It only relieves my gastritis, doesn't do much to stop my GERD.

sunbeam48
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   Posted 1/16/2013 3:29 PM (GMT -6)   
WFJ, how do you prep your cabbage juice: how much chopped cabbage, how much water?

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 1/16/2013 10:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Today was day 1 of the kale supplement, here is hoping.
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sunbeam48
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   Posted 1/17/2013 5:01 AM (GMT -6)   
WFJ, how do you prep your cabbage juice: how much chopped cabbage, how much water?
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