7 Weeks Post Nissen. Full all the time?

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IlliniFan
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   Posted 1/25/2013 9:49 PM (GMT -6)   
I am wondering if others have experienced a full feeling post NF lasting this long. I just seem not to be hungry. I eat because I need to. I have lost about 16 lbs which is ok, because I have plenty to lose, but how long does it take to get sense of hunger back? I actually think I am feeling more "full" as time goes by, not less. I am also noticing some very minimal discomfort in the liver area near that incision. A little concerning.
 
 
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   Posted 1/25/2013 9:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Illinifan,
What you're experiencing is totally normal.  Don't worry about the weight loss...you'll gain it back once your healing has progressed (unless you're very careful!)
 
The first two weeks post-op, your wrap becomes increasingly swollen.  The top part of your stomach (which is swollen and getting more so by the day) is the part that communicates fullness to the brain.  My surgeon told me that the swelling is interpreted by the brain as fullness.  This gradually subsides as swelling subsides after the first two weeks or so.
 
Any worries about pains should be reported to your surgeon.  However, don't be overly concerned.  Your surgeon had to move organs around to get to the surgery site.  It'll take a while for your insides to calm down and readjust to the changes.
 
Hang in there!
Denise
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IlliniFan
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   Posted 1/26/2013 8:25 AM (GMT -6)   
thanks for reply Denise. I am now about 8 weeks post op. I can eat, and most everything. Just don't have much desire to. And that seems to be getting worse, not better.

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   Posted 1/26/2013 8:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi IlliniFan,
I couldn't remember, and your thread title was really hard to figure out.  I could have gone searching your old posts for the info, but it was too late and I was too tired!
 
Everything during recovery that is difficult will pass in time.  You very likely have an irritated stomach/gastritis that is keeping you from wanting to eat.  At 8 weeks you're still at a very early stage.  Everyone reacts a little differently to this surgery, although some things are universal.
 
Keep in mind that your upper GI tract has had a major revision.  Your stomach has been stretched, wrapped, and stitched to create the wrap.  It is not happy with the world right now, and is rebelling. 
 
Just go with the flow, understand that this isn't forever, and try to be patient. If you can accept your recovery as it is, and allow your healing to progress in its own unique way, it'll be lots easier to handle. 
 
Your lack of hunger will not always be with you.  It takes a full 6 months for the majority of the healing to occur, and a year for the rest (which is mainly your GI tract adjusting to the changes that have been made).
 
Believe me, that weight will come back on, once you've healed (unless you work very hard to keep it off).  Your stomach is taking a break as it heals.  It knows what is best.  I suspect it is protecting itself.  If you can listen to your body and follow its lead you'll do just fine.
 
Eat, but don't overdo it--small meals, chew thoroughly, and take it easy on spice and acid.  Give it a break during this time.  Of course you have to eat to keep up your strength and provide important nutrients.  Just do so gently and carefully until the healing has progressed.
 
Hang in there.  This too, will pass.  You will be back to your old self again.
Best wishes,
Denise
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"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
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IlliniFan
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   Posted 1/26/2013 5:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks again. My auto correct changed to wks to was. I will just keep on going. Do you think I should go back on ppi for a week or so? Things just feel scratchy and irritated.

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   Posted 1/26/2013 5:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi IlliniFan,
I have a reactive stomach, and therefore my wrap can get irritated when my stomach does.  I will always deal with this issue, and it isn't related to my Nissen.  Whenever my stomach/wrap gets irritated, I go back on PPIs for a little while and it really helps. 
 
At your stage of recovery, a short course of PPIs could be a big help.  It doesn't mean you'll be on them forever.  They can help your stomach heal, and can certainly get you feeling better more quickly.
 
Hang in there!
Denise
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"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

BrunoG
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   Posted 1/26/2013 6:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi IlliniFan, i am almost at the 8 week stage since my NF. I have yet to feel the sensation of hunger. It is quite a streesfull feeling as I don't know when or if this sensation of hunger will return. I am hoping dencha is right about it being a matter of time. I have lost about 8 pounds and am also forcing myself to eat. Can't wait to get back to normal.

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   Posted 1/26/2013 7:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi BrunoG,
 
If you think about what has been done to your stomach, it's easy to understand why your hunger trigger has been turned off.  Your stomach is healing.  Be thankful that you're not really hungry, as that could also pose a problem. 
 
I lost 16 pounds in the first four months, then gained them back, once I'd reached the 6 month mark.  It's very common to lose weight post-op.
 
Hang in there,
Denise
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Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
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"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

rager201216
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   Posted 1/27/2013 8:56 PM (GMT -6)   
10 years after surgery and I still feel full all the time lol

dencha
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   Posted 1/27/2013 9:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi rager,
Do you have stomach emptying issues?  Do you not feel hungry?  Interesting...I'm 4 years post op, and I get plenty hungry often!
Take care,
Denise
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Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
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"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

rager201216
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   Posted 1/27/2013 9:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah I have little problem with stomach emptying but did not want to take reglan due to the side effects. I do get hungry but get full very very quickly. I feel better if I eat small meals throughout the day but have been having lots of bloating, etc. Do you know anything I can do about the emptying issue? THank you,

dencha
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   Posted 1/28/2013 7:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi rager,
Believe it or not, my PCP had me on Reglan for probably 3 years and I never had any side effects at all.  I quit because I didn't see great results.  I don't know if you've seen this, but here's one google result that looks interesting:
 
The things it mentions are accupuncture, ginger, and Swedish bitters. It also recommends some type of abdominal massage.  The doses and massage info are in the article.  If you haven't tried these, why not?
 
Good luck!
Denise
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Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

rager201216
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   Posted 1/28/2013 7:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you Denise, I appreciate your help.
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