Severe Water Brash?

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   Posted 1/30/2013 7:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Does anyone else have severe water brash? How do you deal with it?

Lately my heartburn hasn't been as bad, but i've been having severe water brash at night. As soon as I lay down (even partially in a recliner), I start feeling this sour fluid leak into my mouth. My teeth and palate has become really sensitive when I wake up in the morning and I'm worried that my whole mouth is basking in acid all night long due to the low ph of the water brash.

I've been swishing with fluoride mouthwash every morning and night, and taking max doses of my medication, but the water brash is relentless. Any suggestions? I would really appreciate some help!

I'm working towards GERD surgery, but that's still months away and I'm worried this water brash is going to destroy my oral health in the interim.

This disease is BRUTAL!

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   Posted 1/30/2013 12:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Why do you think the water brash is acidic (low pH?)? I believe it's the body's response to acid, so it's more likely to be alkaline. I also don't think it's leaking in, but your mouth is generating it. The taste (for me) is not unlike the taste of baking soda and water. Sour I suppose, but definitely not acidic.

I have it now, 2 weeks out from fundo, and had it before. It seems to be getting better these last few days. Before fundo, I didn't find any way to avoid it, again I think it's just the body reacting to reflux (or the perception of reflux*) so I don't know how you can possibly stop it without stopping reflux.

*Which brings up the whole esophageal hypersensitivity thing. Have you tried Elavil? Some docs think it will help since they think the esophagus can be hypersensitive to normal amounts of reflux, if Elavil works, the body doesn't have as much perception of reflux and thus does not generate the sour fluid.

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   Posted 1/31/2013 7:17 AM (GMT -6)   
I deal with water brash daily. Nothing seems to fully take it away, but I will gargle baking soda, eat a couple tums, and chew alot of gum to help with it.
I don't believe it's acid, I believe it's the body trying to protect itself from the acid. I agree with drtinsac that it's alkaline, but a real pain in the .....

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   Posted 1/31/2013 10:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Whatever my secretions are, I know that they are in fact acidic. I have a saliva ph testing kit and I test it every morning and it is hovering around a ph of 5, which is scary! Bad for teeth, gums, etc. I tested the rest of my family as a control, and they are all hovering in the 7 range (as anyone should be).

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   Posted 8/23/2014 10:04 AM (GMT -6)   

I have exactly the same as the original post. Sour bicarbonate water brash. It's like a mix of clear serum and white foam. It sometimes makes me feel nauseous. I have been diagnosed with hypersensitive esophagus as my demeester score was only 13 (8 alkaline) I have 20mg of Elavil per day which has reduced the sour fluid a little. I have to eat low fat, drink plenty of sips of water and chew gum to feel any relief.

I have been told by Dr Kouffman at the New York Voice Institute that fundo is the solution for people like me who have this problem but live in the UK.

I agree the water brash seems to aggravate my throat tissue and palate so the PH of 5 would not surprise me.

Please post if you have any other ideas of how to relieve the problems

ps mine is worse when I bend my head forward for some reason whilst I am sitting. Very strange and frustrating condition!


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   Posted 3/29/2018 7:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I have suffered “water brash” for nearly a year now. It’s been a constant battle trying to cure it. I’ve tried vitamin D, naturopathic treatments and Ayurvedic therapies; none of which provided relief long term.

After all this but seems I’ve accidentally cured my water brash for which I am so grateful. So I’ve been on PPI’s for 15 years. I’m due a procedure soon and had bloods taken which showed severe iron deficiency anaemia. I have been very lethargic, sometimes breathless and pale but put it down to stress and needing to get fit. Anyway I started on Floradix and after almost a week I’ve seen the water brash decrease a fair bit each day. Yesterday it was almost non-existent. So, if you’ve been on PPI’s for a long time then I suggest you get tested for IDA. Think about it! If our blood is getting oxygenated it can’t produce adequate enzymes, including digestive ones and it manifests as hypersalivation.. I can’t believe this nightmare may be over. Still crossing fingers.
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