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Veecee
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   Posted 2/2/2013 11:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello,
Iam 3 weeks postop from Nissen,due to a Hiatus Hernia. Iam getting morning sickness everyday. Feeling really bloated after eating, and get pain in my left shoulder. I am also unale to sleep at night. Can all this be realted to my surgery? What can I do? HELP PLEASE....IAM FEELING DESPERATE BECAUSE I FEEL MY LIFE WILL NOT BE NORMAL AGAIN! redface
 
 
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   Posted 2/2/2013 1:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Are you keeping your portions small? No drinking through straws, no soda, no bread, steak, or raw veggies right now.
Do you have anti nausea meds?
The shoulder pain is from the nerves being inflamed from the surgery. Walking will help with this.

This is the hardest part of recovery right now. In a week you should be hitting the turn around point and start feeling better. Believe me the surgery is worth the first few weeks of recovery.
Joy
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   Posted 2/2/2013 10:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Veecee,
Welcome to the Healing Well yeah yeah yeah Wrapped Club! yeah yeah yeah You are three weeks into a recovery that that takes 6 months for most of the healing and a year for the rest.  At three weeks you're at the very, very early stages.
 
You have had major surgery.  Since it was laproscopic and you only have five little slits, it doesn't seem like it was much, but your insides have been through a huge shock. Organs have been moved aside and held there to make room for surgical tools, your hernia has been stitched/repaired, and the top of your stomach has been wrapped around your esophagus and stitched there.  That is major.  Your upper GI tract has had a major revision.
 
Joy (couchtater) has offered you some great suggestions.  The shoulder pain is referred pain from a nerve in your diaphram.  It's caused by the hernia repair/irritation and gas they pumped inside you to make it easier to see what they were doing.  The more you walk, the better it will feel.  It will gradually subside as you heal.
 
Your life will be back to normal, it just takes time and patience.
It appears your surgeon didn't prepare you well for the recovery.  This is not uncommon, unfortunately.  Be sure to stick around and ask any question you have.  There are many here who have been through exactly what you're experiencing. It'll get better, don't worry!
 
Hang in there!
Denise
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Veecee
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   Posted 2/5/2013 4:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello,
Thanks for the advice it really helps. I have just been very careful about everything. I have been eating very little, becuse dont want to get too full and get nauseous, nd have been sticking to my diet. I doo feel very weak and tired though. I dont know if my body is not getting the necessary nutrients it needs. Ive been drinking Enure and protein hakes to try and help,but not working. Any suggestions? Im feeling too groggy....should I still be feeling discomfort in my upper abdomen?
Sorry for all these wuestions!:(
Thanks or the feedbak.

dencha
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   Posted 2/5/2013 5:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Veecee,
You're three weeks out from major surgery.  Everything you're describing is normal and to be expected.  Perhaps your surgeon made you think that this procedure is no big deal and that the recovery would be easy.  This may be because he/she doesn't really know what the recovery is like, or maybe your surgeon didn't want to scare you away.
 
If you get get up and walk around as much as possible, it will help you regain your strength.  The eating will come as you heal.  Once your body has had more time to heal, you will be able to eat a more balanced diet again. The weakness isn't just from lack of food.  It's also due to the stress and strain on your body/internal organs caused by the surgery.  This will improve with time.
 
Try to rest as much as possible.  Stop worrying.  It's all normal.  Of course there will be pain.  You just had surgery and your upper GI tract was revised.  This will subside as the swelling goes down and you continue to heal.
 
Try to surrender to your recovery and follow its lead.  You can't rush this.  Listen to your body.  If it says rest, then rest.
It gets better, don't worry.
Hang in there,
Denise
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"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

Veecee
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   Posted 2/5/2013 6:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Denice,

Yes, my doctor never explained anything and made it seem like the recovery was easy and would only take 4 weks. Iam a small person, before surgery i weighed 123, now, im at 102. He explained I would loose weight. But would gain in IT back in no time. Because he saw my concern for not wanting to lose weight. I will try to rest and listen to my body. Its just that since nothing was really explained ,I am not sure what to expect. It makes it even harder since my surgery was done in Mexico, and I live in Fresno, CA. Ill ask more wuestions because im sure they'll keep coming up.

Thanks Denice

Veecee
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   Posted 2/5/2013 6:32 PM (GMT -6)   
couchtater said...
Are you keeping your portions small? No drinking through straws, no soda, no bread, steak, or raw veggies right now.
Do you have anti nausea meds?
The shoulder pain is from the nerves being inflamed from the surgery. Walking will help with this.

This is the hardest part of recovery right now. In a week you should be hitting the turn around point and start feeling better. Believe me the surgery is worth the first few weeks of recovery.


Hello,thanks for the info. Unfortunately they didnt give me meds for my morning sickness.can I use anything over the counter? I dread wakng up in the morning.

couchtater
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   Posted 2/5/2013 6:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, you can get some anti-nausea meds at the pharmacy.
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dencha
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   Posted 2/5/2013 7:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Veecee,
We're here for you!  Hang in there...do you have a primary care doctor where you live? If so, you could ask him/her for an antinausea medication. 
 
You will gain the weight back easily, once you're healed.  Each day you move closer to recovery.  This is a great forum with lots of experienced members.  Be sure to stick around and ask whatever questions come up.
Take care,
Denise
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"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

Veecee
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   Posted 2/5/2013 8:45 PM (GMT -6)   
dencha said...
Hi Veecee,We're here for you! Hang in there...do you have a primary care doctor where you live? If so, you could ask him/her for an antinausea medication.

You will gain the weight back easily, once you're healed. Each day you move closer to recovery. This is a great forum with lots of experienced members. Be sure to stick around and ask whatever questions come up.
Take care,
Denise


Thanks Denice,
This info definitely gives me more peace of mind. I kind of feel like im falling into depression. But thisreally helps. I will follow up with my dr here in town.
Thanks again.

dencha
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   Posted 2/5/2013 11:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi VeeCee,
You'll do fine.  I can imagine it must have been hard to deal with this recovery without the support of others who've been through it.  I had the surgery 4 years ago and stuck around to help others the way I was helped.  There's not a lot of great information out there.  I found there was nothing like the information and support of others who'd had the surgery.
 
Relax into your recovery.  You can't rush it.  Listen to your body and follow its lead.  Give your body time to heal and try not to stress...it will take valuable energy that is needed for healing.  If you can surrender to what is you'll find it much easier.
 
Take care,
Denise
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"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

Veecee
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   Posted 2/6/2013 6:18 PM (GMT -6)   
dencha said...
Hi VeeCee,You'll do fine. I can imagine it must have been hard to deal with this recovery without the support of others who've been through it. I had the surgery 4 years ago and stuck around to help others the way I was helped. There's not a lot of great information out there. I found there was nothing like the information and support of others who'd had the surgery.

Relax into your recovery. You can't rush it. Listen to your body and follow its lead. Give your body time to heal and try not to stress...it will take valuable energy that is needed for healing. If you can surrender to what is you'll find it much easier.

Hi Denise,
Sorry, I forgot to ask did you have a sensation you had a lump in your throat? Iam feeling this and seem to not be able to clear my throat and I have something stuck there.

Take care,
Denise

Hello Denise,
Just wanted to ask, was your tongue bitter and white after the surgery? How long did it take for you to eat meat, bread, and all that stuff were not suppose to. Will I be able to eat Chinese,Japanese, Thai food again? In how long? I just love that food and I hope my stomach is able to tolerate it.
Thanks
Veronica

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dencha
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   Posted 2/6/2013 7:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Veronica,
Oh yes, you'll be able to eat anything you want to!  I eat Chinese, Japanese, and Thai food all the time!  I would say that during the early months stay away from Pad Thai (a favorite of mine) because the rice noodles don't chew to a liquid easily.  I remember them getting stuck...now I eat it all the time.
 
At your stage of recovery, you're going to get lots of discomfort in the esophagus and at the wrap site. Your upper GI tract has been through a lot...a revision that has changed the juncture between the esophagus and stomach--creating a barrier to help keep stomach contents in place.
 
I didn't get a white tongue, but others here have.  I would be concerned that you may have thrush/fungus.  Check with your primary care doctor about it. 
 
I don't know what your surgeon's eating protocol was like, but mine set me free to eat anything that could be chewed to a liquid/creamy consistency at Day 5 post op.  I listened to my body and followed its lead.  In the beginning I stuck with soft and easy foods like soups, but experimented with lots of variety.  In the beginning swallowing can be painful, so it makes it hard to eat.  As the healing progresses, swallowing becomes easier and easier. 
 
You can eat toasted bread right away.  Small bites, and chew, chew, chew, until it's a liquid consistency.  Sips of water and/or tea help get things down if you need it.  Tender chicken chews easily.  A crock pot/slow cooker can cook veggies and meat to a very soft and tasty consistency.  Saltines chew easily.  Cook veggies until soft. 
 
I found that if I took small bites and chew, chew, chewed my food to a liquid, there was little I couldn't eat.  Steak is the last to add, as it tends to be difficult to chew. 
 
Start trying things.  Chicken lo mein would probably be fine.  Just experiment.  Small bites and chew thoroughly.  Keep a cup of tea nearby.  Stay away from iced water, as it can cause a spasm.
 
If something gets "stuck" don't worry.  Just sip tea or room temp water and it will go through.  Relax...it will get through eventually.  It's likely you'll get a painful spasm, but it won't last long. 
 
Be adventurous!
Happy eating,
Denise
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Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

Veecee
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   Posted 2/8/2013 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
dencha said...
Hi Veronica,Oh yes, you'll be able to eat anything you want to! I eat Chinese, Japanese, and Thai food all the time! I would say that during the early months stay away from Pad Thai (a favorite of mine) because the rice noodles don't chew to a liquid easily. I remember them getting stuck...now I eat it all the time.

At your stage of recovery, you're going to get lots of discomfort in the esophagus and at the wrap site. Your upper GI tract has been through a lot...a revision that has changed the juncture between the esophagus and stomach--creating a barrier to help keep stomach contents in place.

I didn't get a white tongue, but others here have. I would be concerned that you may have thrush/fungus. Check with your primary care doctor about it.

I don't know what your surgeon's eating protocol was like, but mine set me free to eat anything that could be chewed to a liquid/creamy consistency at Day 5 post op. I listened to my body and followed its lead. In the beginning I stuck with soft and easy foods like soups, but experimented with lots of variety. In the beginning swallowing can be painful, so it makes it hard to eat. As the healing progresses, swallowing becomes easier and easier.

You can eat toasted bread right away. Small bites, and chew, chew, chew, until it's a liquid consistency. Sips of water and/or tea help get things down if you need it. Tender chicken chews easily. A crock pot/slow cooker can cook veggies and meat to a very soft and tasty consistency. Saltines chew easily. Cook veggies until soft.

I found that if I took small bites and chew, chew, chewed my food to a liquid, there was little I couldn't eat. Steak is the last to add, as it tends to be difficult to chew.

Start trying things. Chicken lo mein would probably be fine. Just experiment. Small bites and chew thoroughly. Keep a cup of tea nearby. Stay away from iced water, as it can cause a spasm.

If something gets "stuck" don't worry. Just sip tea or room temp water and it will go through. Relax...it will get through eventually. It's likely you'll get a painful spasm, but it won't last long.

Be adventurous!
Happy eating,
Denise


Hi Denise,
So do we have to worry about food being stuck in our wrap and being cautious forever? Or is it just while we heal? Im on my fourth week post op and feeling pain and discomfort in my upper abdomen and chest.

Thanks Veronica

dencha
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   Posted 2/8/2013 2:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Veronica,
 
The worry is when you're healing.  The wrap, while it heals, is swollen.  That creates a stronger barrier and makes swallowing more difficult.  All these precautions will become less and less necessary as you heal, and finally you really won't think about it anymore.  The biggest concern is as you are healing.  Things are swollen and irritated, so your wrap/stomach need all the help they can get from your teeth!
 
That said, those of us who are wrapped will always have to be a little more careful to eat more slowly and chew more carefully.  If you forget, and something gets swallowed before thorough chewing, it could feel a little stuck before gettng through the wrap.  It could make your wrap a little irritated for a few days, but it's not critical.  Eating slowly and chewing carefully is good advice for everyone...not just those who are wrapped.  Chewing is the most satisfying part of eating, so take your time and enjoy!
 
Happy eating!
Denise
 
 
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sammywalker21
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   Posted 2/9/2013 11:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey are you still getting nausea I am nearly 3 weeks post op and for the first 2 weeks I didn't feel sick once now however I am feeling sick everyday I don't understand surely I should be feeling less ill as time goes on not the other way around

dencha
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   Posted 2/9/2013 12:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Sammy,
Your stomach is complaining loudly!  I'm sure it's just one step further in the journey toward healing.  Do you have anti-nausea drugs?  If not, ask your doctor to prescribe them, as you shouldn't be vomiting or retching under any circumstances at this stage of healing.
 
Baby your stomach.  Are you still on PPIs?  If so, good.  If not, you might consider starting them up until your stomach is feeling better.  At the very least, try Zantac.  You very likely have some gastritis, and getting it healed is what you need to do.  This too, will pass.  I know it's frustrating, but try to understand how much your stomach as been through in the last few weeks.  It's not too surprising that it's not happy.
 
Hang in there!
Denise
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"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

sammywalker21
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   Posted 2/9/2013 2:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah I hoping it is just the recovery I'm going to see my surgeon Tuesday morning I haven't been retching or being sick just belching a lot and feeling very sick worst I've felt since the op I havent been taking ppis for quite a while now even before the op and the anti nausea meds I got are domperidone from before but they don't seem to be doing much

Veecee
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   Posted 2/9/2013 3:16 PM (GMT -6)   
sammywalker21 said...
Hey are you still getting nausea I am nearly 3 weeks post op and for the first 2 weeks I didn't feel sick once now however I am feeling sick everyday I don't understand surely I should be feeling less ill as time goes on not the other way around


Hello,
Well, the fisrt week I was fine, and as the weeks go by the symptoms seem to get worse. But, from hat I hear, they get eorse before they get better. Iam on my fourth week now, still have the pain in my left shoulder,still feel tired, and lots of discomfort in my wrap area. I really hope this all gets better soon.

Best of luck to you.

Veecee
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   Posted 2/9/2013 3:21 PM (GMT -6)   
dencha said...
Sammy,Your stomach is complaining loudly! I'm sure it's just one step further in the journey toward healing. Do you have anti-nausea drugs? If not, ask your doctor to prescribe them, as you shouldn't be vomiting or retching under any circumstances at this stage of healing.

Baby your stomach. Are you still on PPIs? If so, good. If not, you might consider starting them up until your stomach is feeling better. At the very least, try Zantac. You very likely have some gastritis, and getting it healed is what you need to do. This too, will pass. I know it's frustrating, but try to understand how much your stomach as been through in the last few weeks. It's not too surprising that it's not happy.

Hi Denise,
Sorry to bother you so much!
Should I be belching and feeling pressure in my chest, and feeling tired?Or should this be a concern. Also do you think its ok to take multivitamins,im on my 4th week post op.

Thanks.

Hang in there!



Denise

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   Posted 2/9/2013 3:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Veronica,
If you're experiencing nausea of any kind, I'd stay away from multivitamins for a while. It's just adding one more stressor to your stomach. My PCP of many years knew my sensitive stomach well, and he recommended that when I was dealing with gastritis I should not put anything in my stomach that I didn't absolutely have to. He always told me to stop all supplements until my stomach felt better. 
 
If your stomach is feeling fine, I don't think it could hurt, as long as it's small enough to easily get through the wrap.  The tiredness is normal. You've had major surgery.  If you can get up and walk, it will help your shoulder pain as well as increase your stamina.  It's amazing how quickly we lose muscle and strength after surgery. 
 
The pressure is the healing wrap.  No doubt, it's still swollen, which creates a very uncomfortable feeling.  This will pass as healing continues.  I can't speak to the belching.  I didn't experience that, although some people do.  Don't try to force burps, as that could create more discomfort.
 
Hang in there!
Denise

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"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

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Eckhart Tolle

realpersonuk
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   Posted 2/11/2013 12:37 AM (GMT -6)   
On day 10. feeling great. Taking things easy, and using a pro liquidizer for EVERYTHING. Today was meat potato and beetroot . All warm all looking like a star wars dinner. But it was tasty; Went from 185 to 175lb and now back to 179 LB. Don't be put of by negative comments. BiBi Nexium at $3 a throw. Maybe that's what some of these comments are all about. USA does over 20,000 operations per year.

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   Posted 2/11/2013 9:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Veecee, I haven't had the op but I do have experience of dealing with constant fatigue. Sounds perfectly normal, your body is using a lot of energy to heal and couple that with the fact you cant eat properly, or sleep well and it's not surprising your tired.

One thing I found really helped when I had depression and was constantly tired was to do relaxation tapes a few times a day. They also help ease pain and I found myself looking forward to my relaxation time each time.

Afterwards you should feel more refreshed but without sleeping so wont feel all lethargic afterwards.

Veecee
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   Posted 2/11/2013 7:38 PM (GMT -6)   
realpersonuk said...
On day 10. feeling great. Taking things easy, and using a pro liquidizer for EVERYTHING. Today was meat potato and beetroot . All warm all looking like a star wars dinner. But it was tasty; Went from 185 to 175lb and now back to 179 LB. Don't be put of by negative comments. BiBi Nexium at $3 a throw. Maybe that's what some of these comments are all about. USA does over 20,000 operations per year.


Thanks!!:) i keep praying everything goes well.

Veecee
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   Posted 2/11/2013 7:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Andy1986 said...
Veecee, I haven't had the op but I do have experience of dealing with constant fatigue. Sounds perfectly normal, your body is using a lot of energy to heal and couple that with the fact you cant eat properly, or sleep well and it's not surprising your tired.

One thing I found really helped when I had depression and was constantly tired was to do relaxation tapes a few times a day. They also help ease pain and I found myself looking forward to my relaxation time each time.

Afterwards you should feel more refreshed but without sleeping so wont feel all lethargic afterwards.


Thank you for the info. I try to focus on other things but all this weight loss just makes me depressed.. I will take your advice.
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