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parameda
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   Posted 2/19/2013 7:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone,

i`m relatively new to gerd, I only have it for past year and a half. I`m 42 and in early menopause. Onset of gerd symptoms nearly exactly matched onset of menopausal symptoms. My GI is convinced that the two are connected. I noticed that my reflux is really spiking up when my hormone level drops. Is there anyone with similar experience?
Btw, I recently found that chewing on sunflower seeds greatly alleviate esophageal spasms pain. Hope this will help at least to some of you as well.

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   Posted 2/19/2013 12:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Parameda,
I think my trouble with GERD has everything to to with peri-menopause as well. I have it for about 2 years now and I am 50 years young :-)...I did take pills at the beginning but now I am trying different things and it is not easy. My throat still bothers me. The sunflower seeds you mentioned are they raw or roasted?

parameda
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   Posted 2/19/2013 12:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi VivianL,
I`m sorry you suffer too. I only eat food that doesn`t trigger reflux and I`m doing fine with h2 blockers, but every time my cycle is about to start or end I get spasms. I eat roasted sunflower seeds (without salt) and it really helps to the point that I don`t need to take any extra meds. Hope you`ll find it helpful too. What different things are you trying?

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   Posted 2/19/2013 1:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Parameda,
I've been taking Zantac 150mg everyday before bedtime since July 2012. I've been to a Naturopath Doctor and she puts me on Digestive enzyme (Heartburn Essentials), sometimes I also take DGL. I also take Probiotic pill. I was supposed to take fish oil and calcium but I have to stop them for now because they are in liquid form and every time I take either I feel more gas coming up my throat :(. I also walk or doing some spinning excersice everyday and yet I can still feel it sitting in my throat. I am so frustrated. I cut out all the trigger foods. There are days that I feel like giving in and start taking the PPI again...BTW I have many symptoms of peri-menopause: thinning hair, indigestion, skip period...

Tinlou
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   Posted 2/19/2013 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I am impressed that your doctor acknowledged that the two are connected. Most, well mine anyway, OBGYN included look at me as if I have 3 eyeballs when i suggest it. I had to do my own research and take notice of my symptoms monthly to figure it out. Low and behold peri-menopause does often come with the onset of GERD and stomach issues. I have been diagnosed with everything from IBS to anxiety when all tests ruled everything else out. I do have to watch what i eat though because that too seems to be an issue as we get older-food allergies. For me it was gluten sensitivity.

parameda
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   Posted 2/19/2013 4:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, I was really lucky finding a great doc. He also said that it is very likely my reflux won`t be an issue once the menopause is finished. I noticed that many people on this forum undergo various surgeries, but my GI claims that nissen, for example, is a serious, life-changing one and he doesn´t want to rush me into it. I don`t know what to think, because I do trust him but, on the other hand, there are many great experiences described.
Tinlou, did you have any symptoms of food sensitivity before you decided to get tested?
P.S. I apologize for any mistakes, I`m still learning english :)

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 2/19/2013 5:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I can only hope that my GERD is related to menopause. I don't have much by way of menopause symptoms but my general health has declined since hitting mid forties. I've tried evening primrose oil and one or two of the menopause herbs like black cohosh but they didn't help. Milk thistle has helped me however, especially with reflux.

MMM

Tinlou
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   Posted 2/19/2013 6:07 PM (GMT -6)   
parameda, your English is fine, better than many actually.
As far as food sensitivities go i never had them until I reached my late 30's. I think perimenopause was actually just starting then so it makes sense. I was tested for celiac because i suddenly started feeling so ill but it came back negative but now i understand that I am gluten sensitive instead. This means that wheat, oats, barley suddenly started to turn on my body and i could no longer eat it without bloat,reflux,nausea and diarrhea. I had to eliminate them from my diet and many of my symptoms did get better. Like your doctor said i can only hope that this goes away once the menopause is over too!

parameda
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   Posted 2/20/2013 4:42 PM (GMT -6)   
I drink plenty of water, but I noticed lately that some food make me constipated like veggies I had no problems with before and I was wondering if I developed some sort of food intolerance. I was also tested for celiac with negative results. Does anyone knows common symptoms of food intolerance?

Willovercome
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   Posted 3/9/2013 5:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey, guys! My stomach is not very active so i eat only little at a time but was doing fine for years until last Nov when this whole thing started. I had acute heart burn and couldn't eat. i lost weight also because i had been eating 1600cal only anyway was eating even less.
first i was put on nexium 20 mg and after a month or so the symptom came back. I had got endoscopy done, was diagnosed GERD and gastritis(they say it's mild but it sure doesn't feel like it) so now i am on nexium 40mg. It was to be 8wks treatment and i am now 4 th weeks. I saw the research data and i don't see the reason to go on when the study shows that for majority, after 4 wks, improvement level hit the highest already. According to my endoscopy picture i had a minor imflamatory area in the esophagus but my stomach looked healthy and doc said so, too. Biopsy showed no abnormal cell growth nor trace of h.pirori. Why am i am put on 40mg instead of initial 20 mg and longer, i do not know. I am going to call my doc on monday and ask her if i can get off for a test. Will tell you the progress, then.

Now, I eat ok, though not as much as i used to because i avoid eating at least 2 hrs before going to bed these days. I used to enjoy snack with a drink or two before went to bed. I know it must have caused my gerd and all but, you see, my portion during the day for three meals is so small (it runs in the family. my stomach is not moving very well so i can't eat much at a time. And notice, with all that i was in perfect health for years! Full of energy, happy, enjoy eating the food i can eat and my life overall) I need to eat something after a few hours after the dinner(5:00pm).
Anywaythe problem is, though i am gaining or at last not losing weight now since i am eating again with my nexium, but i feel weak and anxious all the time. Doc was concerned about my weight but at the same time raised her eyebrows for my eating late and fatty food so, though i am anxious to get back to my weight i don't think it will be that easy. I just can't/don't eat much. My dad had a stomach cancer when he just turned 60 and he is doing great now(test confirmed) after almost 20 yrs but consistently losing weight(he weighs less than me!) because his stomach is the half the size and he simply doesn't enjoy eating so, as long as i know the reason i don't think i need to be alarmed by 5lb in 5 months but...

I switched from omeprazole to nexium in the begining because of the heart palpitation and now it's not exactly heart but just... Feeling...upset all the time. Depressed. A bit distracted, too. I am normaly pretty happy person. Of course sometimes I worry over things because i am a mom :) but I tend to shake off all the trivial things easily because i know what is important in my life. Love and health, right? I don't think i trigger the symptom myself by worring about it onset because it suddenly comes and suddenly goes and comes back for no apparent reason. I can't deal with it exactly because I don't know what's going on and am confused about my feeling. While i am writing this, this 'wave' had come and gone once already. Isn't that crazy? It's like living with irrational abnoxious friend, only that friend is myself. :(
I can't believe and can't adjust to the fact that only a little over 4 months ago i was perfectly healthy and now i am one always sick person.
i have never had any drugs in my life stronger than antibiotics, otc painkiller, and zantac. Nexium is just about the strongest ever. Never had a surgery. Delivered my daughter naturally without anything even though it took 3 days to deliver. I hate to put foriegn stuff in my system.

I came to think maybe it's something to do with premenopause in the first place because my sick-journal :) shows my stomach problem usually felt worse about the time my period was to begin. However I now may eat ok and had no stomach problem exactly due to the nexium, while my period has come and gone and my anxiety is still there.
I am 44 and have very regualr period yet short intervals. I don't want to write off all these symptoms as side effect of the nexium but that is a possiblity too.
I also got blood tests on my gallbladdr, liver, pancreas, too. All normal and like natic said one of the four liver test number was a bit high but doc said he wouldn't worry about it and i was having zantac for a few days at that time.
I don't like to have zantac either but i just don't think blocking acid in the stomach completley is such a good idea...
What i want to hear is that after all this, after menopause is over at least, i am going to be fine again. 5-7 years from now? Has anyone ever told you once they went through the tunnel there was a light?

Post Edited (Willovercome) : 3/11/2013 4:06:33 PM (GMT-6)


parameda
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   Posted 3/10/2013 6:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Willovercome,

I`m very sorry to hear about your struggle. We all know how difficult it is sometimes, but you must stay positive. Regarding your question, I personally don`t know anyone with gastritis or GERD whose symptoms went away after menopause (I didn`t even know about GERD until it hit me), but I have complete trust in my GI doc and he thinks that there is a strong connection between the two. So, I hope, that`s the least I can do right now. If it improves-great, if not I`ll consider other options such as surgery. Maybe there is someone on this forum who has more information. I wish you all the best.

Willovercome
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   Posted 3/10/2013 2:01 PM (GMT -6)   
:( that's disappointing. I read it in some medical information site but since they are in different area from each other(internal med and gynecologist?) Who can tell? But my mom said her friends all went through all these strange illness and now they are fine. Now, about my mom herself, she insists she had never had menopause, so busy, no time! She is an old lady other than regular old people's problems but eats so well it amazes me. Lol. It's my daddy's gene i got. My sister has gerd, too.
One more thing. Do you have upper back pain, too? Many people who had gerd also insists it goes with 'upper' back pain but while i do have it it seems nothing to do each other. I mean the cycle of the intensity of back pain and symptom of gerd doesn't match.
Thank you so much for your support.

parameda
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   Posted 3/11/2013 6:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Well, my GI doc thinks that things are not as simple as many people, including doctors, think. Changes in hormones level affect many other processes in ones body an that is why LES gets the wrong message at the wrong time. He also said that he had some patients whose problems disappeared with the end of menopause. I noticed that when my cycle is normal my GERD is also under control, but when there`s even a slight change in cycle my GERD symptoms get wild. My older sister also had some mysterious allergies at her time, so, yes, our bodies obviously go insane. What`s interesting, though, is that my dad also has GERD. Could it be hereditary?

Willovercome
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   Posted 3/11/2013 1:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Of course it's hereditary! There is a study that shows genetic influence on the age at menopause (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)79753-1/fulltext#article_upsell - sorry you have to subscribe to read this one)
but as i mentioned up there(i know it's too long too read and font here is so small ;) ) my dada had a stomach cancer and guess what, all my sisters and brother, and me tend to have stomach problem all our lives and two if us diagnosed gerd. I also remember his dad(my grandpa) used to pop enzyme pills like candies all his life. T.T my mom has such a strong digestion system that she eats lemons like orange and hot pepper like it's bell pepper and not even a heart burn! Lol
On the other hand, she's got other serious problems like, high colesterol, some nerve damage in her leg, had a double bypass several years ago, terrible seasonal allergy.
I read an academic journal article(you should always look for 'scientific' data by acknowledged journal)One comparatively new interesting theory for morning sickness is to protect mom and baby. For them to not eat just anything. Also an article proved other common symptoms like hot flashes go away without hormone therapy after menopause. So evolutionary theory sake, one theory (http://faculty.bennington.edu/~sherman/sex/evol%20of%20meno.pdf) says, this also is to protect us. We don't want to have progesterone in our body anymore. It maybe even harmful. So we must go through this to survive i guess and along the way,while our bodies adjust, we go through some sort of transitional ritual, like adolescent period.
So i stopped my nexium yesterday after 4 weeks( another 4 weeks of 20mg 3months ago) and had zantac instead, i feel ok. In fact i feel less anxious. My sister said she had h. Pirori but after the two weeks treatment she plowed ahead with soft food and cabbages( they say it's good for stomach. Even if you don't buy any of the good stuff they claim it to have, it's soft, has fiber, vit...why not?) without medecine. She is doing great now. I talked to my doc this morning and she said i might want to go with two more weeks of full does of zantac at night instead(300mg) then, but i am just going to go with 75 in the morning and 150 at night. That's what i did yesterday and i am ok. No heart racing either. Already Less or no anxious.(a bit nervous whenever i eat but that's natural)
Let't beat this together. I will keep posting about my progree without nexium.

Post Edited (Willovercome) : 3/11/2013 12:40:21 PM (GMT-6)


parameda
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   Posted 3/11/2013 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Good for you! :) I am really glad you are managing it well. I`m on h2 blockers (allergic to PPIs) for almost two years now and can`t get off of them. I see many people eat cabbage and I was told it was the common trigger. I can even tolerate apples. Please, keep us posted on your progress, it`s always good to know someone is getting better :)

parameda
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   Posted 3/11/2013 3:06 PM (GMT -6)   
oops, can`t eat apples, sorry

Betska65
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   Posted 5/2/2013 7:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi all, last year my hormones went haywire and at same time my acid reflux set off, usually every year round spring and towards Xmas I get gerd and 2 days ppis and it goes, not this time. I had surgery(ablation) last Oct which stopped the periods and the acid reflux kept going, some days bringing me tears feeling like a hole is burning through my chest and back. The dr put me on a ppi and doubled doses, he ended up also putting me on motilium, these 2 together finally stopped the acid and Id forgotten about it and able to eat anything, then cluster headaches sore breats bloating all hit me, to top that the motilium cause me to produce milk so 2 weeks ago I was taken off the motilium, reflux and gastro spasms have returned also for 10days now severe hot flushes daily and night sweats from hell.
So yes, menopause and gerd seem to go hand in hand, problem is natural herbs for menopause symptoms cause gerd, gerd meds like nexium,pariet zantac cause headaches etc. So what to do? Ive tried natural cures for both problems, I always have been a non smoker non drinker and dont have caffeine, I am thin and eat healthy rarely even touch fast foods or chocolate, I see my dr next week to see what we do from here, I been given promensil to trial and took the first one last night and seemed to actually make night sweats more intense, but I am trialling them. I did trial Fusions menopause free pills they seemed to lower intensity but can cause an acidy feeling. Basically ladies this sux.

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   Posted 12/2/2013 9:38 AM (GMT -6)   
I am 52 years old and still get master blaster periods every 25 days. I tend to get anemic during three days of extreme bleeding, so I do take iron supplements during those times. Recently, after taking Emergen C and drinking a lot of seltzer, I started getting repeat symptoms of gastritis. I initially had it in 2008. So I stopped the trigger foods: no seltzer, reduced dairy, avoided tomato, etc. I felt this left so little to eat. I also tried to reduce white sugar and flour. And of course, I avoid citrus products.

I found that eating Tum's provided immediate relief but only temporarily. So I began eating crystallized ginger, and that really helps "cure" the gastritis. I also drink coconut water, which helps too. I drink a lot of water when I wake up to help dilute the stomach acids. If I do all these things, I can get a near "cure" in 24 hours and complete recovery in 48 hours.

Also, just fyi, I noticed that when I buy "cheap" chinese food, I get a dizzy feeling. And I'm also prone to extreme heart palpitations. I don't know what brings on the palpitations yet, but they are probably triggered in part by stress. I do get hormonal headaches about a week before my period.

If anyone has ideas on how to reduce the flow of periods, I would LOVE that. I currently do not take any meds.

Thank you.

Pie_Filipina2013
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   Posted 12/8/2013 11:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi all,
 
I am sharing below article.  Some may have read this already.
I was on PPI for almost two months but have not taken it for 3 days now.  I am actually experimenting since I noticed that the side effects were nasty on my system.
 
I stumbled into this article when I was trying to see the link of GERD and perimenopause.  I just turned 45 last week and prior to my diagnosis of GERD about two months ago, I was already experiencing most of the symptoms listed below.  True, my endoscopy revealed reflux esophagitis and gastritis but my Gastro told me its nothing serious and my H. Pylori was also negative.  It was just that I was so anxious beginning October this year.  I had several panic attacks also.  I felt that there is something wrong with me.
 
The side effects of PPI were aggravating my perimenopause symptoms.  I still experience occasional cough, hoarseness, post drip and sinusitis but these can be managed.  I am now very careful with my diet and has been taking Aloe Vera Juice of Forever Living Products before breakfast and at bedtime.  I am also taking Tums.
 
The dizziness is still there but this could be because of sinusitis which never healed by the way - due to acid reflux probably.  I have yet to see an EENT.  My allergies also increased lately.
 
Most of the symptoms listed below Ive actually experienced and still experience.  Doctors usually treat only the symptoms.  Suppressing stomach acid would lead to many side effects.
 
I am hopeful that I can be back to my old self sooner.  I know this is just temporary.
 
Cheers!
 

35 Symptoms of Perimenopause

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VIEW IMAGEWhen most women enter perimenopause, they expect a few hot flashes and night sweats. They might even expect mood swings, vaginal dryness, and loss of libido. What they won’t expect, however, are overwhelming thoughts of doom and dread, panic attacks, high anxiety, heart palpitations, vertigo, dizziness, unrelenting insomnia, and feelings of losing control.

Yet a large number of women experience these symptoms and many others which you may not think are associated with perimenopause. In fact, so wild and unpredictable are some of the symptoms, a lot of women think they are going crazy.  

But they are not going crazy and neither are you if you have been experiencing any of these symptoms, and wondering what is wrong. I like to call perimenopause a full body contact sport, because it affects far more than just your menstrual cycles.

It is not unusual for women to have issues with their thyroid function, for example, or their adrenal glands, and a myriad of other complaints and ailments which seem to have no connection whatsoever to perimenopause.

35 symptoms have been identified and associated with perimenopause.  They are listed here in no particular order of significance. Not every woman is going to experience all of these symptoms, nor the same intensity or duration. Everyone’s experience is unique.

35 Symptoms of Perimenopause

  • Hot flashes, hot flushes, night sweats and/or cold flashes, clammy feeling
  • Irregular heart beat
  • Irritability
  • Mood swings, sudden tears
  • Trouble sleeping through the night (with or without night sweats)
  • Irregular periods; shorter, lighter periods; heavier periods, flooding; phantom periods, shorter cycles, longer cycles
  • Loss of libido
  • Vaginal dryness
  • Crashing fatigue
  • Anxiety, feeling ill at ease
  • Feelings of dread, apprehension, doom
  • Difficulty concentrating, disorientation, mental confusion
  • Disturbing memory lapses
  • Incontinence, especially upon sneezing, laughing; urge incontinence
  • Itchy, crawly skin
  • Aching, sore joints, muscles and tendons
  • Increased tension in muscles
  • Breast tenderness
  • Headache change: increase or decrease
  • Gastrointestinal distress, indigestion, flatulence, gas pain, nausea
  • Sudden bouts of bloat
  • Depression
  • Exacerbation of existing conditions
  • Increase in allergies
  • Weight gain
  • Hair loss or thinning, head, pubic, or whole body; increase in facial hair
  • Dizziness, vertigo, light-headedness, episodes of loss of balance
  • Changes in body odor
  • Electric shock sensation under the skin and in the head
  • Tingling in the extremities
  • Gum problems, increased bleeding
  • Burning tongue, burning roof of mouth, bad taste in mouth, change in breath odor
  • Osteoporosis (after several years)
  • Changes in fingernails: softer, crack or break easier
  • Tinnitus: ringing in ears, bells, 'whooshing,' buzzing etc.

SOSMom
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   Posted 3/19/2014 7:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone,
How long does menopause last?! It's been 1yr. And 7 months since no period. Went thru the night sweats and still have occasional heat flash. At first I thought this isn't too bad until a few weeks ago. Got heartburn everyday and heart palpitations that are driving me crazy. The other day got really dizzy with nausea and thought I was sick, not. ..was ok the next day. But having brain fog that feels like I have cotton in my head. Which can be scary because it feels as if you can't think straight. So glad to hear I'm not alone. Need to get to the doctor for some ease I guess.

Hopingforbetterdayz
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   Posted 3/19/2014 10:18 AM (GMT -6)   
I am also 42 and in menopause as well. I also have GERD and wonder if there is a connection. I was diagnosed with both around the same time. I also get the heart palpitations and that is driving me crazy. It worries me so much because I also have the GERD chest pain. I have had all the heart tests done and they say nothing is wrong with my heart. Just wish the pain and palpitations would go away. I get dizzy a lot during the day as well. My whole body aches and my joints hurt. I was on PPI's for the GERD when i was first diagnosed for about a month and I thought that they were giving me all these pains so I stopped taking them. Now I wonder if it was really just the menopause. Anyhow, I sleep on a wedge pillow, eat lots of fruits and veggies and don't eat at least 3 hours before bed time. That is helping me. I am not on any meds. I do take Gavison if I am having a bad night. There is also another site called healthboards that has a menopause section. It has been really helpful to me as well. Good luck to all, hope we can get through this. So glad I found these sites and glad to have advice through this journey.
T~ (42 F) :)
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