New Member Sabre - Ok, so this is how it works.

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stkitt
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   Posted 4/25/2013 10:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Posted Today 6:06 AM (GMT -6) by New Member Sabre
 
Ok, so this is how it works.

You get reflux, because your sphincter that opens between the stomach and small intestine is not opening properly. Why, because your stomach for some reason is not producing enough acid. (I think maybe stress for eg, has used up all the acid because you've been activating it too much so when the meal arrives there is not enough acid)


It may seem like there is too much acid, this is because it starts going up your esophagus, which is not used to even weak acid in the stomach and you get the reflux pain. It might seem really acidic, but actually its not acidic enough for your stomach and that's the big problem.

So the solution really is, increase the stomach acid, to make the sphincter open in time, so that your stomach doesn't overflow.

So what does everyone do, make the stomach more alkaline, either with bicarb soda with chewable tablets or proton pump inhibitors (PPI) or H2 inhibitors. Sure it gives you quick relief, but it doesn't solve the problem and get you stuck in a cycle that is hard to get out of, unless you need healing for some damage somewhere, but sometimes the reflux is the damage and that's what needs to be stopped.

So what happens when you use PPI, you make your stomach more basic, by stopping all the acid producing cells, then your esophagus feels better because its not getting burnt all day long with an overflowing stomach.

This is ok for someone who drinks beer and coke all day long and eats rubbish food (which is very acidic) they need this drug because they are probably actually making their stomach too acid as well as overflowing it with acid food.

But for people that have a bit of mild reflux, PP2 messes you up, as you get a short term cure, but then its hard to get off, as if you stop it, your stomach cells are not really working, so you get reflux rebound as some activate, as the stomach isn't opening into the small intestine properly yet so you start to get reflux again.

So, when I stopped my PP2, since I eat really good food, I found I was getting terrible reflux, a lot worse then before, and also the food wouldn't go down, it took hours for the stomach to open and release the food it was terrible.

The way I actually fixed it, was to drink Coke! pH of approx 3.4? The way I though it up, was it was 5 hours since lunch and I couldn't even drink water as my stomach wouldn't go down with reflux. I drank slowly 600ml of coke, and my stomach emptied. So next dinner, I drank some coke before hand, then drank coke with the meal and then some after and the reflux and the stomach emptying problem began to stop.

So the coke made the stomach more acidic, and this prompts the spincter in the small intestine to open faster as it thinks digestion is complete, this releases the stomach contents into the small intestine, which in turn, stops the stomach overflowing into the esophagus, causing the burn and pain. After drinking the coke and meal, I took a spoon full of Manuka Honey to help the healing process of the Esophagus.

So I think, I'm going to do some experiments now, when eating a really rich meal, my theory is that you get reflux, because it takes too much acid to digest the food, so you run out of acid, and then the stomach doesn't empty and then you get reflux because its overflows into the esophagus. So maybe a drink of coke can help prevent a heart burn at night time later?

Everyone's situation inside could be different, and coke might not be good for some people, but I'm just saying what worked for me, as it was really really hard to get off the PPI, but the crazy thing is Coke saved me. So to me all those Bicarb tablets and PPI are stupid as they don't fix the problem, unless you have a massive erosion somewhere which needs healing, that's why I'm saying maybe this is not your problem so you should seek pro advice, as I probably have no idea what I'm talking about...

I guess you can use HCL tablets, but that seemed really risky to me, so I tried Coke as I knew how bad it was for you due to the high pH. Funny since I think my problem was that I was too healthy, and got a bit stressed. And eating too healthy just made it worse and worse as my foods were too alkaline and this made my stomach not open and made the reflux worse and worse.


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Post Edited (stkitt) : 4/25/2013 10:09:41 AM (GMT-6)


stkitt
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   Posted 4/25/2013 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   

Welcome to HealingWell  and  our GERD - Heartburn peer support discussion forum.

Thank you for sharing your story on what helps you and I know you will be hearing from some of our wise and caring members.

Please keep on talking with us and know we care.


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sunbeam48
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   Posted 4/26/2013 9:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Very interesting post, thanks! I'm happy that I have been off acid-reducing meds for about 5 months now, and my body is healing nicely. I still eat small meals because the LES will never fully function, I believe. I used the Fast Tract for Heartburn diet, which probably eliminated the SIBO that often devops when people use acid-reducing meds. If I start to feel worse again I could try Coke.
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