Protonix and THC

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TheSiXness
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   Posted 5/1/2013 12:13 PM (GMT -6)   
So I had a medical exam recently and it showed I had THC in my system, I initially thought they were joking when they told me. Anyways, I haven't smoked ever and don't associate with people who smoke because I'm against it. Anyways, I'm on a long list of drugs right now can anyone of them explain why I'm showing a false positive?

Just called up the nurse who prescribed me protonix and she said that half the world would show up as having THC in there system if protonix was the reason for my false positive. I'm suspecting that it's protonix, but I haven't had any conformations by doctors yet.

Elavil
Zantac
Excedrin
Ibruphen
Pepcid AC
Gaviscon
Carafate
Notrupytline
Sudafed
Nyquil
Pantaprozale ( protonix )
Omperozale ( Prilosec ) Usually switch between different PPi's
Prevacid
Aleeve
Tylenol
Lexapro
erthyromycin
Benadryl
Anefrin nasal spray
an inhaler
Acidophilus
Multivitams
escitalopram

Yeah...I'm on a lot of different stuff. Usually rotate stuff out to find the best mix.

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   Posted 5/1/2013 2:20 PM (GMT -6)   
The nurse is wrong. I was on protonix and it stated on my paperwork on the scrip in the side effects and such that it is possible to test positive. I'll look and see if I kept the paperwork but I do remember talking with my wife about it at the time.

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   Posted 5/1/2013 2:32 PM (GMT -6)   
TheSixness,
 
Wow, that's a new one on me!  I've taken Protonix since I was hospitalized for GERD induced asthma about 8 or 9 years ago.  I did a little searching and came up with some links:
 
Here's another one:
 
It even says the manufacturers of Protonix provide a warning, and say that you should always bring your prescription bottle with you if you're having an employment physical that includes a drug test!
 
Learn something new every day!
Take care,
Denise
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DOGGBONES
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   Posted 5/1/2013 2:36 PM (GMT -6)   
goggle protonix and false positive for thc and bam, you'll be in for a shock. Just like my paperwork said from the pharm. Once again nurse/dr don't know poo!

TheSiXness
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   Posted 5/1/2013 3:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Called the Nurse at the GI department of UW-health and she told me that it shouldn't. Also, I got a call back a local nurse at clinic in Menasha, WI. She said she would talk to the doctor and that there was no way it could come up as a false positive and that everything I'm reading on the internet is wrong.

I Have been to that clinic numerous times and have been told false information similar to this and that I was wrong. Hence, why I don't go there anymore. I'm currently working with UW-Health.

TheSiXness
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   Posted 5/1/2013 3:21 PM (GMT -6)   
The UW-health nurse also told me to call a pharmacist because they deal with medicine on daily basis.
-TheSixness-

Fighting daily pain from gastroparesis, gerd and lpr!
Had the TIF done 2/2012 and still am symptomatic.

dencha
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   Posted 5/1/2013 3:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Here's a link to an FDA document that says it can cause false positive results.  Do you think that's official enough for them?
 
It states:

7.5 False Positive Urine Tests for THC

There have been reports of false positive urine screening tests for tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in patients receiving proton pump inhibitors. An alternative confirmatory method should be considered to verify positive results.

Denise

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

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Eckhart Tolle

Post Edited (dencha) : 5/1/2013 3:31:56 PM (GMT-6)


TheSiXness
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   Posted 5/1/2013 3:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Doggbones,

This is very true. Doctor's don't know everything... I wish someone who has LPR was a doctor...

When I go to Dr appointments now days I just automatically assume I'm the only person who's knowledgeably about my condition. 18,000 hours of living with my condition classifies me as an expert in reflux haha. Doctors although have a PHd, seem to be wrong more than we think. That's why it's called practicing medicine.
-TheSixness-

Fighting daily pain from gastroparesis, gerd and lpr!
Had the TIF done 2/2012 and still am symptomatic.

TheSiXness
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   Posted 5/1/2013 3:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Dencha! That links a keeper!

This doesn't excuse that Dr in the ER lastnight that told me the reason I couldn't sleep was because I was doing to much Marijuana, which is causing my insomnia! He obviously doesn't know anything about LPR and breathing issues related to it.

I couldn't sleep lastnight because my neck was tight, I have VCD and couldn't get air in fast enough. My vital signs where fine... Well duh! I can breathe, it's just super tight and inflamed! He insisted on telling me that my breathing is fine and that I'm on drugs, which is the reason I couldn't sleep. I told him over and over that, I didn't have any exposure to weed in the last 30 days. I will testify in court on my behalf. I'm going into law enforcement and I found that to be quite insulting. I definitely know how it feels to have all the tables turned on myself for a change...

What really pisses me off is that he sent me home with a marijuana abuse pamphlet...
-TheSixness-

Fighting daily pain from gastroparesis, gerd and lpr!
Had the TIF done 2/2012 and still am symptomatic.

DOGGBONES
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   Posted 5/1/2013 3:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Sixness,
So very true! I went to a GI once upon a time and of course I was asked "what meds I was taking", I said (at the time) aciphex, her reply was "ok, and that's for ?). What?? Really?? I'm being asked by a GI DR. (student) what aciphex is for????? Ugh
 
Dencha,
Well I guess the proofs in the pudding. lol

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   Posted 5/1/2013 4:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Sixness,
I have to admit, if I were you last night, I think that I may have came unglued to the point of getting myself some new steel bracelets. lol. Way to show self control! 

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   Posted 5/1/2013 9:54 PM (GMT -6)   
How are these people doctors? I do not want to criticize any doctors on this board because I know some of you guys are smart at what you do but reading this is classical example of "how updated are you on medicine and how did you get your degree?" wow hats off to you, I would blown up because that would been the cherry on top of my really bad LPR sundae I have been going through / u have been going through.

//shakes head at this!
I won't let you ruin me, if there is will there is way, day by day and I shall make it.

GERD/LPR 2 months yappay! :) LOL

Roah, college student, 21

Kareem
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   Posted 9/10/2013 12:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello,
found this topic interesting as I am up for a new job at Honda as a Programmer Engineer. I have GERDs as well as Esophagitis, Gastritis, Ulcers, Barrett's Esophagus, and 4 years ago had surgery to remove benign polyps in my stomach. So throughout the years I have been taking a various of medication for this. This is part of my 80% Disability rating from my Veteran Disability. I have been prescribed Omeprazole, Pantoprazole and Zegarid. I am currently on daily doses of Omeprazole from my VA doctor. From two other local clinic doctors I use mainly for prescriptions, one has me on Pantoprazole and the other on Zegarid.

In my drug screening they said I have THC. And I took all my meds to the nurses doing my physical yet they tell me that none of these meds would create a false positive. They sent it off to LabCorp. I took them for their word and became very worried. Before I left the office my Ulcers had already started killing me I was so worried. When I got home I did some serious research and found that the very same medication I was taking and that the nurses said did not cause any false positives were in fact some of the worst meds you can take for a drug screening!

But then I thought ok, maybe at LabCorp they can see the difference and see that I do not have THC just my meds, but then i see online about so many mixed reviews about the methods they use. I hear from some that the GDMS machine is supposed to be very accurate but then I hear from others that the machine is still known to give false positives in these instances. I don't know what to do or where to turn. I need to know, this is my life at stake here! I have worked too hard and went too far for my career to end like this! I apologize for the lengthy post but I am very desperate for some understanding and options here. And Thank you for any information you can give!

TheSiXness
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   Posted 9/10/2013 4:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, it's amazing how little doctors actually know. I would think this would be more acknowledged than it should be in the medical community.

Kareem
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   Posted 9/10/2013 9:59 PM (GMT -6)   
I have a question about this GC/MS test. Someone else told me that they may still see THC on these tests but because they know what Meds I am using they will still call it a false positive. But I thought that with this test they should find NO THC and only my Meds. How does it work! Will they find THC even though I have not used marijuana but just deem it a false positive because of my MEDS. Or will they not find any THC at all. Because I also read that we all have some THC inside of us even if we don't smoke but only a little that will not register?

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   Posted 9/11/2013 10:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Kareem-

I would find as much info on this on the web and print it off to take with you just in case. And of course your current RXs.

Take care,
Bill
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dencha
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   Posted 9/11/2013 6:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kareem,
You probably saw this on the thread, but you can bring this document with you.  Also, as Bill said, bring along your prescription bottles, just in case.  Apparently, false positives can occur when on PPIs.

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Here's a link to an FDA document that says it can cause false positive results.  Do you think that's official enough for them?
 
It states:

7.5 False Positive Urine Tests for THC

There have been reports of false positive urine screening tests for tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in patients receiving proton pump inhibitors. An alternative confirmatory method should be considered to verify positive results.

 

 

 

 

 


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Eckhart Tolle

Kareem
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   Posted 9/11/2013 9:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks dencha, I will use this document. And I too hope this is enough for them. Although I already took all medications and show them. I also have a fractured shoulder and neck from an accident I had in the Army. So I take a lot of pain medications too. Those are the ones that I thought I would have issues with on the tests. But I guess since I don't take those pain pills regular but take daily doses of 80mg Omeprazole (supposed to be 40 but I take two at a time) I guess that is why it shows up so well!

However I'm still apprehensive about the test. They sent it to LabCorp but on the copy they gave me they had no mention of any of my meds. I hope they give me a chance to show this document! And thanks again dencha!

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   Posted 9/12/2013 5:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Good luck Kareem! yeah
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"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

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Eckhart Tolle

Kareem
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   Posted 9/12/2013 8:56 AM (GMT -6)   
I want to thank you all for the information. Apparently Labcorp confirmed the false positive! I just received a called from the job saying that the tests came back negative. I will be starting my Dream Job at Honda Manufacturing as a Programming Engineer on September 30th, along with a hefty Supplement Bonus. Though I also ended up with an Ulcer Flare-up, but now that I have a great insurance plan i can use it :) Thanks again!

TheSiXness
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   Posted 9/12/2013 9:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Good news! Congrats!
-TheSickness-

Terlin
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   Posted 9/12/2013 6:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Six what have the docs say about your ear pain? I'm going to see a second ent how should address my symptoms with ear presure and all what I believe lpr along with severe gerd which
My gastro I doing nothing about? I'm looking for some relief and I want to breath again , also what helps you?
Terlin

Kareem
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   Posted 9/12/2013 9:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow Terlin, this post is have really attracted me twice. First for the Protonix and THC and now about Ear problems? After reading your post I did some searches and see that a lot of people with GERDs and Acid Reflux are having Ear problems. I have been having issues with my ears for a while now and I never associated it with GERDs. Well now I have something else to talk to my doctor about!

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   Posted 9/13/2013 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
yeah   yeah yeah Congratulations, Kareem! yeah yeah yeah Good luck with your new job, and take care of that ulcer!
 
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