Waiting for surgery date

New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
[ << Previous Thread | Next Thread >> ]

willisrobin69
New Member


Date Joined May 2013
Total Posts : 7
   Posted 5/11/2013 3:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello.
It has been interesting to read about every bodies recovery after surgery. I am waiting to hear when my surgery will take place.
I do have a few concerns though. The whole burping thing worries me. I don't want to stop taking one medication to have to replace it with something else to help the release of gas. Of which I am sure would be very un comfortable. Also when it comes to nausea and vomiting does your surgeon prescribe anti nausea medication? From reading it is very bad to vomit after surgery and also after a few months. It is not that I wish to vomit but after having food poisoning not so long ago it would concern me.
Reading about people's return to work, how long were the majority of you off for. I am being told that two weeks is enough but I am on my feet all day and have a fairly manual and busy job.
It would be great to hear back from anyone that is able to enlighten me.
Many thanks in advance

Robin

Gooserstein
Regular Member


Date Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts : 57
   Posted 5/11/2013 10:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Robin,
I had a lot of concerns as well. I'm still early in my recovery, so there's definitely more experienced people on this forum. What I can tell you is that it can be possible to burp and vomit afterwards. Spend time finding an experienced surgeon who has done 100s of these if not 1000s of these surgeries. My surgeon told me I would be able to burp and I can since day 1. I was told I'd be more gassy. Before this I was on a high fiber diet. The gas is very comparable to that. The results of the surgery seem to boil down to the skill of the surgeon.

I still haven't returned to work. I'm post op day 10. I have a decent amount of energy but I'm not going back to work til one month post op. I work as an ER nurse, which is very physically and mentally exhausting. So I'm not going to push it till I'm ready. I was told I could work behind a desk one week post op. I would suggest at least 2 so you can feel your best.

Don't settle for a local okay surgeon. Find the best. Do it once and do it right.

Good luck!
Erica

opnwhl4
Forum Moderator


Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 4961
   Posted 5/11/2013 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Robin

Welcome to Healing Well.

The burping issue usually resolves itself with healing, but you won't be able to fully belch as before surgery. They are doing what is called a floppy wrap nowadays and it let's us release some of the gas without sacrificing the effectiveness of the wrap.
Yes they will prescribe you anti nausea meds if you ask. I have them with me at all times just in case. As for food poisoning and such I was told to go to the ER if I suspect it.
As for going back to work, you will most likely be limited to lifting 5 to 10 lbs for 6 to 8 weeks. With what you described I would expect to take at the very least 4 weeks off. I am a mechanic and I had to take the full 6 to 8 weeks. The plant doctor wouldn't let me return any sooner.
You also will still get tired pretty easily the first couple months. This recovery isn't a typical lap surgery recovery. Your body won't be getting as many calories in the first few months and there fore you will have less energy. The wrap area will have peak swelling sometime around week 2 to 4 and that is when the toughest part of the recovery is. As the swelling goes down things start to get better pretty quickly.

Check out the resources thread at the top of the forum. Denise(dencha) has a great recovery journal there. Also check out Goose's recovery thread, it's a great one as well.

Take care,
Bill
opnwhl4
Moderator: GERD/Heartburn
Nissen 6/06 and 5/09
#3 on 8/24/11

willisrobin69
New Member


Date Joined May 2013
Total Posts : 7
   Posted 5/13/2013 7:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you very much for your responses.

Erica I hope that your recovering continues to be good with no problems.
I am based in the UK so when it comes to finding a good surgeon it is not the same as the US. We are referred to a consultant who is then the surgeon to do the operation. Fingers crossed that when I finally get a date for my surgery that he will be competent a nod all goes well.

Bill. Another big thank you for your advice. It does look as though I will have to take longer off work than I initially thought. Fingers crossed my bosses are ok with that. Lol
As for the burping and vomiting thank you for the advice about asking to anti nausea medication. It does look as though if you don't ask you won't get.
Now all I have to do is get a date for the operation. I shall keep you informed.

Many thanks again

Robin

dencha
Forum Moderator


Date Joined Feb 2009
Total Posts : 7181
   Posted 5/13/2013 9:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Robin,
For some reason, surgeons don't realize how easy it is to get nausea with an irritated stomach, and how easy it is to catch a virus!  You will need to advocate for yourself.  I got anti-nausea drugs from both my surgeon and my PCP. 
 
My PCP gave me Compazine suppositories, as he knew my stomach well and figured they were a better option for me.  My surgeon gave me Zofran.  The Zofran works great for nausea that comes and goes, but in my experience, once I have a stomach bug, I can't keep the Zofran in my stomach long enough for it to work.  The Compazine works great once I'm really sick.
 
I've had three vomiting bugs since my surgery, and while I didn't know if I'd be able to vomit, I found I could.  Each time, though, I took Compazine immediately, and only threw up once.  Even if you can vomit, it's still better not to, so I always carry anti-nausea drugs with me wherever I go. 
 
Any surgeon worth his salt knows that retching and vomiting during recovery can damage a healing wrap.  Therefore, it shouldn't be all that hard to get the drugs prescribed.  If he/she doesn't get it, try your PCP, who likely knows you better. 
 
I was also able to burp immediately after my surgery and never had a lot of bloating issues.  Sometimes, during the early healing stage the wrap swells so much that it doesn't allow a release of gas.  Once the swelling subsides (it peaks at around Day 14 for most people), the bloating subsides as well.  During the healing stage, stay away from straws (I still do) and carbonated beverages (I can drink them now, but only ever have a couple servings).
 
After the surgery you won't be able to initiate burping the way you do now...your stomach will be in control of when and how much it burps.  Once you're healed (provided your surgeon doesn't do the wrap too tight) you will find that your stomach can keep the gas at bay on its own (often I get big, old-fashioned burps, but I'm not the one who makes it happen), as long as you don't eat or drink something that is so gassy it gets ahead of the stomach's ability to get rid of it. 
 
In that rare instance, the gas pushes against the wrap so hard that it won't allow the little gas-escape burps. In that case you'll have to grin and bear it, and wait for the gas to make it through your lower GI tract and escape the back door.  Overall, though, if you have a good surgeon who is extremely experienced in doing Nissen surgeries, you should have very little gas bloating issues.
 
Good luck!
Denise
GERD/Heartburn Moderator
Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

Post Edited (dencha) : 5/13/2013 9:31:42 AM (GMT-6)


willisrobin69
New Member


Date Joined May 2013
Total Posts : 7
   Posted 5/14/2013 12:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello Denise.
Thank you for your advice and information. It is reassuring to hear every ones different accounts on how they faired after surgery.
Still awaiting my surgery date but hope to hear soon.
I will keep you posted on my recovery .
Many thanks.
Robin

willisrobin69
New Member


Date Joined May 2013
Total Posts : 7
   Posted 5/19/2013 12:19 AM (GMT -6)   
Well I have finally have a date for my Surgery.
I am to have my Nissen Fundoplication on the 20th June.
It was would interesting to hear from any one from the UK that has had the operation. Just to see how their experience measures up to everyone else's from across the pond.
Now I can start worrying about everything that can go wrong and the recovery horrors that I have been reading on this forum.
wish me luck.
Robin

reet22
Regular Member


Date Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts : 146
   Posted 5/19/2013 1:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Robin congrats on getting your operation date, for the nhs thats not bad. I had this op done in 2001, I live in the midlands and did not know anyone else who had the op and even now all these years later no-one seems to have heard of it. Can I ask what part of the uk you live? My operation was very difficult back then but I was symptom free for 9 years so although I am having problems now I would not discourage anyone from taking the plunge and having it done. Good luck Rita

willisrobin69
New Member


Date Joined May 2013
Total Posts : 7
   Posted 5/19/2013 3:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello Rita.
I am based in Suffolk and will be having the operation in Ipswich hospital. I hadn't realised that the operation would not be permanent and presume that I will have to have work done again in the future.
I hope that all will be well with you.
Robin

tcoffin
New Member


Date Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts : 7
   Posted 5/20/2013 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi there,
I had my Nissen wrap done on April 8th.  I have a desk job and took four weeks off.  If your job is more physical I would plan on at least six weeks.  You are not supposed to lift anything over 20 lbs. for six weeks. 
 
I felt good at week four but even now, six weeks out, I am still eating liquids.  If I try eating anything else, I feel sick to my stomach.  I have vomited a few times and I feel better after I do.  If I eat something I shouldn't, my stomach/chest tells me so.  It is a very painful experience.  At first I tried to hold the vomit in thinking it would damage my wrap, but after finding relief with vomiting, I just let it out.  I do have anti naseau pills but they knock me out!!!  My doctor said that if I am still feeling nasaues three months out, they will go in and stretch my esphogeous because it could be too tight.
 
Hope this helps!
 
 

dencha
Forum Moderator


Date Joined Feb 2009
Total Posts : 7181
   Posted 5/20/2013 7:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi tcoffin,
Welcome to the Healing Well yeah yeah yeah Wrapped Club! yeah yeah yeah Sorry to hear that you're having problems with your recovery.  When I read that you are vomiting, I became very concerned.  Vomiting, especially during early recovery weeks, can be very damaging to your healing wrap.  If whatever anti-nausea drugs you're taking aren't working, ask your doctor for another type to try.  It is important to avoid vomiting, even when you are fully healed.  I carry anti-nausea drugs with me wherever I go, and I'm four-plus years post-op.  I've had 3 vomiting bugs, but each time I vomited only once, then used Compazine suppositories to avoid vomiting multiple times. 
 
I can't emphasize enough the importance of protecting your wrap from vomiting and retching.
 
I've never heard of nausea being caused by a tight wrap, but hey, I'm not a Nissen surgeon.  It sounds as if your wrap is very tight, if you're still on a liquid diet. This isn't at all typical.  Check on finding another anti-nausea medication...Zofran is one that I use for nausea (not a stomach bug), and I didn't find it made me tired.
 
Good luck!
Denise
GERD/Heartburn Moderator
Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

tcoffin
New Member


Date Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts : 7
   Posted 5/21/2013 6:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the advice. I will definately call the Dr. today to ask. The problem with the medication is by the time I need to take it, its too late and I have already started vomitting. I also try to avoid taking it because of the fatigue I feel.

dencha
Forum Moderator


Date Joined Feb 2009
Total Posts : 7181
   Posted 5/21/2013 7:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi tcoffin,
 
You ought to be on a constant dose of anti-nausea drugs, then.  Vomiting after a Nissen fundoplication--especially during the early recovery stage, is a no-no.  I use Compazine suppositories when I've had a vomiting episode to ensure I don't vomit again.  I understand that once your stomach isn't accepting things an oral pill won't help.
 
Run, don't walk, to get some anti nausea drugs.  You don't want to ruin your wrap and have gone through the surgery for nothing.  You're recovering from surgery, so fatigue is just a fact of life.  Fatigue is a small price to pay for keeping your wrap safe. 
 
Glad you've joined the forum!  This is a great place for information and support. We're here for you!  I found this great place shortly before my surgery and stuck around to help others the way I was helped.
 
Hang in there...it gets better!
Take care,
Denise
 
GERD/Heartburn Moderator
Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

eLaReF
Regular Member


Date Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts : 74
   Posted 5/21/2013 8:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Robin

I'm in the UK and had my op almost 10 years ago in Middlesbrough and I haven't had any problems.

I can't burp or vomit - as Bill says, most new people to the forum don't tend to have this issue as the wraps aren't as tight as they used to be.

I occasionally take Wind-Eze or a couple of Rennies if I have eaten too much, but this isn't something I have to do often.

Likewise, the lack of burping isn't really a problem - especially now as I'm older and don't tend to chug yards of ale anymore.

I have only had a tummy bug a few times since and can't say it's any fun, however I don't think anyone with a normal stomach would consider one to be easy.

The op does change how you eat, and this doesn't change with time - but you do get used to chewing more and eating slower quite quickly.

Hang in there.

Les.

willisrobin69
New Member


Date Joined May 2013
Total Posts : 7
   Posted 5/21/2013 11:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Morning Les,
Thank you for your post.
The no burping does worry me. If you can't burp what happens to all the trapped wind. It has got to hurt or at least be uncomfortable. I am not too worried about not being able to vomit. The only time I need to vomit at the moment is when I need to empty my stomach when the acid reflux kicks in.
When you say 'it changes how you eat', how exactly does it change things? Are you still able to eat what ever you want, as I don't now? Or is it that you will eat a lot slower and smaller portions? which I suppose would not hurt.
Robin

dencha
Forum Moderator


Date Joined Feb 2009
Total Posts : 7181
   Posted 5/22/2013 7:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Robin,
 
Unless your surgeon does a very tight wrap, you won't have much trouble with the "not burping" issue.  Unless the wrap is too tight, any bloating subsides after the swelling goes down during the early weeks.  I was able to burp immediately.  The burps aren't the same as the burps you have prior to being wrapped, though. 
 
I call it "stomach led burping".  You can't burp on command, but the stomach burps itself. I have had very rare instances where the gas got ahead of the wrap's ability to burp itself, (one was after drinking two glasses of champagne) then there was some bloating. When that happens there is some discomfort, but before long everything passes into the lower GI tract and exits the "back door".
 
As far as "eating changes" go, Les is referring to the fact that you have to eat more slowly and chew more carefully.  Your wrap creates a barrier that wasn't there (which is a good thing), so it requires you to slow down and chew your food thoroughly, which is, after all, the way everyone should be eating!
 
I can eat absolutely everything.  I stayed away from soda for a couple of years post-op.  I'm not a soda drinker, but sometimes enjoy it with pizza.  Now I can drink a couple glasses of soda with no problem.  I can drink beer as well.  It's good that you're researching and preparing yourself, but I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.  The most important thing is to be sure you've had all the prerequisite testing, and you've selected a highly qualified and experienced Nissen surgeon.  If you've done that, you'll do just fine.
 
I suspect you've already come across this, but just in case, here's my early recovery journal:
 
Take care,
Denise
GERD/Heartburn Moderator
Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

eLaReF
Regular Member


Date Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts : 74
   Posted 5/23/2013 4:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi again Robin

For me, that gas isn't a problem. I don't get bloated much at all and when I do it's because I've eaten too much - as happens with everyone else at which point I take a Wind-eze.

I think that eating more slowly and chewing more tends to stop you getting bloated anyway as you don't swallow as much air as you would if you gorged your food. Also, I do still get mini burps from my Oesophagus as the food is going down (escaping before it hits my wrap) I just can't burp from my stomach.

I can eat whatever I like whenever I like and the only things I tend to avoid is raw red onion which seems to irritate my stomach and chugging anything fizzy - as this does create uncomfortable bloating which does find it's own way "out" after a while. So while I can't do frog chorus belly burps anymore I can properly rattle the windows with my farts

smilewinkgrin

willisrobin69
New Member


Date Joined May 2013
Total Posts : 7
   Posted Yesterday 12:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Well it is the day before my surgery. Not sure I am ready or prepared but too late now.
It has been great to read about everyones journey on here after surgery and I will post a new thread following my recovery.
See you on the other side of the Wrap

Robin

dencha
Forum Moderator


Date Joined Feb 2009
Total Posts : 7181
   Posted Yesterday 8:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Robin,
We'll be here rooting for you! yeah yeah yeah
Good luck with your surgery, and we'll be ready to welcome you to the Wrapped Club once it's all behind you.  If you've read the posts here, you'll be prepared and ready to go!  Be sure to ask any questions you have as they come up.  We'll do our best to answer them, and support you through your recovery.
Happy Nissen!
Denise
GERD/Heartburn Moderator
Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle
New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
Forum Information
Currently it is Wednesday, June 20, 2018 1:08 AM (GMT -6)
There are a total of 2,973,621 posts in 326,247 threads.
View Active Threads


Who's Online
This forum has 161058 registered members. Please welcome our newest member, katharinakisha.
276 Guest(s), 2 Registered Member(s) are currently online.  Details
Sinmiedo, UC_from_39