Dry needling or acupuncture for GERD?

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TheSiXness
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   Posted 6/21/2013 9:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey guys, so recently I've been talking to family members who have been going to get dry needling done. They recommended I go to a session to see how it helps my GERD. I was wondering though if dry needling is like acupuncture and which one would be more effective for GERD?

I've been reading up on acupuncture and it seems quite a few people find relief of their symptoms from going to these sessions. I'm very interested in going to get acupuncture, the only thing is... It's not covered by my insurance, but Dry needling is.

Has anyone done dry needling? Does it help? or is acupuncture the way to go?

DontStealMyBacon
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   Posted 6/22/2013 1:02 AM (GMT -6)   
I have not tried dry needling, but I have tried acupuncture for GERD. I did it for a short while but after several appointments when my GERD was nor feeling any better I stopped going back. It did make me feel better in general, but it didn't help GERD at all. Other people have gotten help from acupuncture, but for me it wasn't working. I don't know anything about dry needling, but that's what I can say about acupuncture.
Right Temporal Lobectomy 4/5/12

Diagnosed with GERD, Eosinophilic Esophagitis, and Epilepsy.
Studying biomedical engineering to research a better fix to at least one of them.

Teacherman
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   Posted 6/22/2013 8:52 AM (GMT -6)   
I have my first appointment with an acupuncturist this week. I too have heard good things. If anything hopefully it will settle my mind and it would be GREAT if it helped with my reflux.
Good luck!

DOGGBONES
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   Posted 6/22/2013 10:56 AM (GMT -6)   
I did acupuncture for a couple years and I found it did help. I had to stop after my insurance stop paying for it. It cost $65 each time and you need to go at least twice a week for months to get the real benefit from it. Yes, even with my insurance I spent well over a thousand dollars on treatment. I went to an expert lady who was trained by one of the best in China and had practiced for over 25 years, so I know what I'm taking about when it comes to acupuncture. It's good stuff but you have to go ALOT!
 
Sixness,
The more I researched Iberogast, I couldn't order it fast enough. I really have high hopes when it comes. I've read blogs were dr's have suggested to their patients use it. This stuff has a good rep and has been used in Germany for over 40 years.

TheSiXness
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   Posted 6/22/2013 11:43 AM (GMT -6)   
I know I'll try acupuncture eventually. It's good to know that you had some benefits Doggbones. Right now I know my insurance wont cover acupuncture, so it would be essentially a days wage to go to each session. I'll give dry needling a go when my job training done and I'm back home.

I'll order some sometime in the future. It sounds like a decent supplement from what I've been reading also. Let me know how it goes.

Right now, my list of supplements I want to try include

Iberogast
Psyllium husk for bile reflux. My naturopathic dr suggested it.
possibly digestive enzymes
melatonin
DGL

also, I'm going to try an avoidance of these

gluten
dairy
eggs
corn
soy
sugar, fructose, or artificial/sweeteners
MSG and hydrolyzed vegetable protein

That's my plan of attack haha
-TheSixness-

stkitt
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   Posted 6/22/2013 12:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Dry needling is the use of solid filiform needles for therapy of muscle pain, sometimes also known as intramuscular stimulation. Acupuncture and dry needling techniques are similar.
 
I am not sure why your insurance would pay  for one but not the other.
 
Good luck,
Kitt
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Post Edited (stkitt) : 6/23/2013 11:46:28 AM (GMT-6)


mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 6/23/2013 7:55 AM (GMT -6)   
I've had a lot of relief from acupuncture - it has really helped my nausea. It hasn't affected my GERD otherwise, but I keep going because it's worth every penny not to feel sick all the time!!

MMM
GERD (3 years and counting)
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

stkitt
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   Posted 6/23/2013 12:48 PM (GMT -6)   
MMM,
 
I am with you on doing whatever works for you.  With my chemo I spend 4-5 days feeling dizzy and queasy.  Getting out to go to for  acupuncture is very difficult when I feel so dizzy. 
 
I am really glad to read how well you are doing my friend.
 
Hugs,
Kitt
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mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 6/23/2013 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kitt,

I'm not doing that good, but it's good to have relief from the nausea. I've been referred for manometry tests, which I'm quite freaked out about because of my bad endoscopy experience etc!

It's good to see you "out and about the forum"! However, I was sorry to hear about the fresh round of chemo and I'm always watching out for news of how you're doing - you're a standing item on my prayer list!!

MMM x
GERD (3 years and counting)
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 6/23/2013 5:27 PM (GMT -6)   
PS: Would anyone come to your home to do acupuncture?
GERD (3 years and counting)
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

Alcie
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   Posted 6/23/2013 7:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I'd be cautious about Iberogast. It contains Angelica root which is used to cause abortion. It's always a good idea to look up all the ingredients in herbal preparations. Just because they are "natural" doesn't mean they are safe. One brand may be quite different from another in the amount of each ingredient and how they are prepared.

I'm not saying it doesn't work. There have been some studies that said it does. I'd talk with my doctor before taking anything recommended in a forum. We're not doctors.

DOGGBONES
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   Posted 6/24/2013 6:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Alice,
Thanks for the info., this is something women should be aware of (I am not). I believe it warns on the label if pregnant or breastfeeding do not take.
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