Those of you with acid rebound...

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jsdco
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   Posted 8/9/2013 10:05 AM (GMT -6)   
I've done a ton of research, specifically Chris Kesser's series about how acid reducing drugs cause more harm than good: chriskresser.com/get-rid-of-heartburn-and-gerd-forever-in-three-simple-steps

After learning this, I quit my meds almost a month ago when I had my endoscopy and my specialist couldn't tell me anything new. I was on PPI's for a year, and I've had acid rebound ever since quitting.

For those of you who have also done this research and know that a low carb/low sugar diet is supposed to be the true cure for GERD—you can recall that low stomach acid is actually the cause, and one of the steps to healing GERD is to increase the amount of acid by taking hydrochloric acid (HCl) pills.

I've been on a no carb/sugar/gluten/wheat/dairy diet for 3 weeks now, including daily supplements like HCl, DGL, vitamins and probiotics, hoping for results by now after reading countless success stories.

Yesterday I burped up a bunch of acid which never happens, now my throat feels horrible. I'm wondering if it's a bad idea to take HCl if you are going through acid rebound? Do I have too much acid in my stomach?

I haven't been able to find any discussions or articles on this. I was hoping more people would be in the same boat... thoughts?

opnwhl4
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   Posted 8/9/2013 11:15 AM (GMT -6)   
jsdco

Welcome to Healing Well.

There are SO many different approaches and theories about what causes GERD and what can "cure" GERD that it's mind boggling. I feel the best way to check for low acid is to drink a small amount of vinegar. That way you can really control the amount you are taking, but that's just my thoughts on it.
While agree that PPIs for life isn't the answer, they do have their place in treating GERD. Surgery was the best option for me and has given me back my quality of life, but not everyone is a good candidate for surgery.

We have a lot of members who are very informed on the natural approaches to controlling GERD and I am sure they will be along shortly to offer some help.

Take care,
Bill devil
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jsdco
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   Posted 8/9/2013 1:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for your reply Bill.

I've taken ACV before, but not sure what you mean by checking for low acid by drinking vinegar. How would I know if it's too low or too high just by drinking it?

Out of curiosity, have you ever heard of anyone with GERD using PPI's for a specific amount of time, which then "cured" them and they were able to get off the meds to live a normal life?

I'm just interested to know why people still say PPI's and H2 Blockers are a viable solution assuming they've read all the evidence against them.

opnwhl4
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   Posted 8/9/2013 7:14 PM (GMT -6)   
jsdco

Vinegar is an acid. If you drink a small amount and it helps with your symptoms then it may be a low acid problem. Same as with the HCI pills, but you can just drink a tiny amount at 1st to avoid an taking to much and causing more burning.

No, I haven't met anyone who was cured by taking PPIs. Just people who have controlled their symptoms. It seems though that these meds are similar to a lot of other meds, that they can build a tolerance to them and need higher amounts to work. This is why I went the surgical route. I didn't want to continue on PPIs and I was going to have to start taking 4x the dose.

I don't think everyone researches the meds they take and just rely on their doctor and take them.

Take care,
Bill
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DontStealMyBacon
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   Posted 8/10/2013 1:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Adding on to what Bill has said, PPIs truly don't cure anyone's symptoms. They can mask some people feel better, but they don't ultimately solve the cause of the problem for most people. The reason that doctors prescribe them is not that they tend to think of them as the best drugs for us as much as they are pretty much the only drugs available to us. Proton pump inhibitors and H2 blockers are slightly different but basically depend on the same method of lowering the amount of stomach acid present. If there was more of a variety of prescriptions available that worked then we might move past PPIs, but for now we are stuck with them and either have to decide to deal with them or avoid them.
Right Temporal Lobectomy 4/5/12

Diagnosed with GERD, Eosinophilic Esophagitis, and Epilepsy.
Studying biomedical engineering to research a better fix to at least one of them.

sk55
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   Posted 8/10/2013 5:48 AM (GMT -6)   
yes be careful with HCL.. I tried to do something similar.. and I actually got some damage on my esophagus that looked like barretts.

if your having a rebound take some zantac 150 or 300... or Pepcid.

shifting
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   Posted 8/10/2013 7:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello...I do know some people who have been cured with PPI's. The more I read and hear, I think every case is individual! But these forums contain grat ideas to try!

Ian Victor
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   Posted 8/10/2013 10:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I have absolutely no heartburn when taking PPI's. In that respect, the PPIs have done their job. However, GERD is the result of a weak sphincter. In my case, I get acid regurgitation at night. Because my sphincter is defective, all the dietary restrictions in the world will not correct or cure my GERD. I have to have surgery at the end of this month. There was a time when a modified diet helped reduce my heartburn, but eventually I began taking PPIs. The heartburn stopped but the regurgitation became worse. As suggested, H2 blockers might work for you. If dietary changes don't help your symptoms, consider taking medication again. Don't suffer needlessly. Heartburn is miserable.
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