Does acid run uphill? :-(

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   Posted 7/8/2005 11:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Acid must have fumes that creep up into the throat and mouth because I don't have to be lying down to feel burning on the back of my tongue.
I never regurgitate food, and don't have any swallowing problems.  It's just the burning at the back of my mouth, my throat, and my esophagus that's the killer.
Right now I am taking 40 mg. of Protonix. Have been on it 4 weeks. It seems to be helping a little.  I never eat after supper, but I still can wake up with reflux, even on an empty stomach.  In fact, I always feel better after I eat, as long as it isn't too much.
I've had two endoscopies in the past 5 years.  Both times the doctor diagnosed me with having "gastritis".  He said my stomach is inflamed.
My body mass index is 27.6, which is considered overweight.  Anything over 25 is not good.  I need to do a better job of watching what I eat.  I carry fat in my lower abdomen and I think that losing 16 pounds may help. 
Did anyone else lose weight that resulted in less reflux?  Does anyone else have reflux even standing upright?  How many sufferers really stick to a special meal plan?  Has an elevated bed helped you?
Am always interested to hear how others are coping.  Thanks for any comments.

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   Posted 7/9/2005 10:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Searchin, I have just lost 20 pounds and it has made no difference to my reflux problems. I think this is because once you start taking PPI`s you can`t get off them no matter what you do. What does everyone else think ? Vanessa

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   Posted 7/10/2005 9:38 AM (GMT -6)   
The PPIs haven't helped me much at all.  I think Pepto Bismal soothes my acid as much or more as Priloec or Protonix.  I know these two things work differently, but Pepto seems to bring more relief than being on the PPIs for awhile.
I am baffled that I cannot find what is the root cause of reflux.  I know that the LES muscle can get weak and allow acid to ooze up into the esophagus.   If this is true, then it seems that ANY acid at all could creep up to burn the throat.
Having said that, it seems the ONLY way to keep from getting acid in the throat is to have NO acid at all, which means that digestion would be hard, if not impossible.
It's a "heck if you do, and heck if you don't" situation.
I have yet to hear that a malfunctioning thyroid, parathyroid, hypothalamus, adrenal, pituitary, brain, or any kind of malfunctioning organ causes overproduction of acid.  It seems to me that SOMETHING is causing it. 
Very frustrating that doctors don't seem to know.
I wonder how much is due to subconscious stress?  It's anybody's guess, I suppose.
P.S. Vanessa, how did you lose your weight?

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   Posted 7/10/2005 11:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Searchin, I don`t know the root cause of acid either. Since i`ve been dieting i have had a really boring bland diet. Its took almost 4 months to lose, but now i find i can`t eat much at all. I used to love going out for meals but now its pointless cos i can only eat little and often. You were saying about over the counter remedies working better for you than PPI`s. That doesn`t work for me. Nothing works only zoton(prevacid). When i had the gastroscopy last week they said my oesophagus looked ok cos the meds have protected it, but its the cough, sinus trouble and sore throat that i suffer with. Vanessa

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   Posted 7/30/2005 12:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I have bad reflux at night. I bought an adjustable bed to raise up my head and it has helped.

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   Posted 7/30/2005 6:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Here is a link to a HealingWell website that explains more about GERD.  I hope this helps!  Hugs, Teri tongue
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   Posted 7/31/2005 10:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Searchin,
   I was DX 5-6 yrs ago and never exp burning on the back of tongue, but have exp very infrequently burning in the throat/esophagus area which led me to the ER.  This is a bad flare for me, so I go to the ER and request a cocktail(bentyl & maalox).
  I am now taking 40mg of Prolisec which seems to be greatly helping, but as I said in the past, it seems that I have to switch meds from time to time. 
I have exp digestive type problems ater eating certain foods from early teenager, and now 40.  My problem was obviously more pronounced while carrying my child.  I was sick around the clock w/indigestion/morning sickness symp for four mo. tried everything, nothing worked but popcorn.  Well, my reflux appear to be mostly stomach, occasionally chest, but it's that same feeling of morning sickness, just sick all over;nauseated, etc....
  I personally believe that this problem is hereditary for me, several members of my family suffer reflux/indigestion problems.  I also believe that digestive type problems could possible cause other ailments in the body, whether directly or indirectly, also not sure of the meds.  I have tried to stop taking meds only to start again.
  I had an Endo 1/2005, biopsy revealed H-Pylori(bacteria inf)not sure if this caused Gerd or Gerd caused it.  Dr couldn't tell if I truly had Gerd because of taking meds for so long. He indicated when my treatment for HP was completed, cont taking meds if problems persist. Funny! Going back to see GI on the 8th.  I will demand a second opinion of outside dr or change dr altogether if i'm not satisfied on appt date.
  Exercise has helped me w/indigestion in the past along w/some very specific Yoga exercises for digestion.  I also have to really watch what I eat.  It's pretty ironic, because a lot of food I shouldn't eat due to GERD have never really been my favorites, and have steered clear of them for many yrs.  I usually sleep on two thick pillows which may help throughout the night.

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   Posted 8/10/2005 9:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, I have reflux standing up. I think some of us have alot of pressure in our stomachs. Plus....I think some of us have hiatal hernias, even though the docs say we don't....which would account for that pressure. I think we make alot of gas in our stomachs, which can also "shoot" acid up into our throats.
Vanessa..........I have come off PPIs several times. I've been off them now for several years. One thing I discovered is that with most drugs, and especially PPI's, you have a rebound thing that happens. Whenever I would quit my PPI, I would get horrible reflux during the next week. But.....if I would just hang on, and bite the bullet, it would ease up considerably. I think when those little acid producing glands start waking up, they really make up for lost time. But they soon realize, that they don't have to keep doing that, and they slow down. So......if you ever try to get off of PPIs again.....try to give it at last a week, to stabilize.
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