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TheSiXness
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   Posted 10/12/2013 6:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Been having troubles handling my symptoms after my nissen. After my Tif surgery, I received more of an immediate response of my symptoms and I felt great, than after 3 weeks...everything came back much worse. This time around though, I have been hit with all the same symptoms plus an awful chest pain. I'm sure my reflux has been reduced, I don't understand how the acid vapors are still damaging my throat. I'm so discouraged after going through the TIF and now not getting the quick results after my nissen. Would have thought my symptoms would have changed after having the procedure. Dr koufman said I have nocturnal damage, I'm guessing this is going to take a while to heal. It just seems like if the surgeries going to work, it's going to start working right away. Will be calling my Dr on Monday to see what she has to say. Either way, I hope I see some improvement in my symptoms cause I have a long life to live...

Anyways, I've been able to burp since I woke up from the surgery. This concerns me in thinking that the wrap is to loose... I haven't had problems drinking or eating cream of wheat. I can drink a glass of water with out it backing up. The worst part of the surgery is the recurring lpr symptoms...

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dencha
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   Posted 10/12/2013 8:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Sixness,
Yikes!  You're in the first week post-op in a recovery that takes six months for most of the healing and a year for the rest.  The damage that was done prior to your surgery will take time to heal, so you can't expect the symptoms to disappear instantaneously! 
 
I had very bad lung issues, which is the reason I had the surgery, yet my lungs continued to be very sick for a long time.  It took me two and a half months for them to heal.  I've heard of pulmonologists who say not to expect healing sooner than six months. 
 
I know that your symptoms have been very hard to deal with, and you're anxious to get them behind you.  However, to expect them to disappear immediately after surgery is unreasonable.  It would be nice, but it's just not going to happen.
 
It's different if you're somebody with tons and tons of reflux that is getting into your sinuses and coming out your mouth.  There are people who've posted here with those symptoms.  Those are the people who notice improvement immediately.
 
Those of us with atypical symptoms take longer to see improvement.  It would be nice to have instant healing, but that's just not going to happen, as much as we'd like it to.
 
Like you, I was fearful that my ability (actually my stomach's ability) to burp was an indication that my wrap was too loose, and it would not hold back reflux.  When I asked the surgeon from my surgeon's group (who came to see me post-op), he said that burping was a benefit and a positive thing.  It would help me avoid painful bloating. 
 
Don't be surprised if your wrap becomes increasingly swollen, causing you some more swallowing problems.  It's very common to reach peak swelling sometime around the fourteenth day.  The chest pain you're feeling is certainly the surgical pain and swelling from the surgery.  It is normal and to be expected.
 
I wish there was a shortcut to this recovery, but there isn't . The first two weeks are very challenging, but once you get those behind you, you'll find gradual improvement.  If you can surrender to your recovery, trust that you'll get the results you want, and give your body a chance to heal, it will make things much easier to deal with.
 
Hang in there!  It gets better.
Happy healing,
Denise
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TheSiXness
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   Posted 10/12/2013 10:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Denise. I just want to feel good so bad... I'm exhausted by it.
-TheSickness-

Baza
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   Posted 10/13/2013 5:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi TheSixness, sorry to hear your still having problems,but its still early days yet.Im sure youll settle down soon.Youve also been through two ops so it might take a while longer for you to feel better. Hope all goes well! Barry

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   Posted 10/13/2013 1:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Good Afternoon Six,
 
If you've checked out very many other post-fundo reports, you'll already know what I'm going to say. This is most likely not reflux.  

What happens after surgery, sometimes weeks after calm, uneventful recovery, is that you will get swelling or other issues. You then feel just like you're having reflux again. It is very discouraging, but it is normal.

What should you do? Drop back to easier, less challenging food. In a few days you'll feel OK again. Then slowly re-introduce more challenging food. This cycle might well occur again, and maybe even again. If it does, just drop back to easier food each time until it goes away.

Your body will heal just fine, if you give it the time and care that it needs to do so. It isn't at all unusual for us to take weeks and weeks to recover. Be kind to your GI system, and all will be well.

Hope this helps.
 
Sending you healing vibes for a full recovery.
 
Kindly,
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TheSiXness
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   Posted 10/13/2013 3:24 PM (GMT -6)   
What about taking anti acids after surgery. To my surprise my surgeon told me to get off of them right away. At this point I haven't, I have been on 40mg x2 prilosec a day followed by 150mg x4 of zantacs... I'm kinda worried about rebound acid.
-TheSickness-

dencha
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   Posted 10/13/2013 3:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi TheSixness,
 
I stayed on my PPIs during recovery, and am glad I did.  Some surgeons tell their patients to stop immediately, but many, like you, don't want the healing wrap stressed by rebound. 
 
Also, during early recovery, the swelling can make the wrap misshapen, and because of that can actually let some reflux through.  It makes total sense to me that you continue your PPIs and even Zantac while you give your stomach/esophagus a break while they heal. 
 
It's your call, but many stay on them.
Happy healing,
Denise
PS...are you putting space between your PPIs and Zantac?  It's not good to take them together...apparently it interferes with their action.
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TheSiXness
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   Posted 10/13/2013 5:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I try and take my zantacs around or after my meal time, so there usually is a 30 min to an 1 hour gap. Yeah, I have to be careful with that.
-TheSickness-

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   Posted 10/14/2013 2:23 AM (GMT -6)   
The Sixness-

Reread all the recovery posts. What you are experiencing and thinking of is the exact same thing we all went through. It is normal.

It take way more time to heal the damage than it took to cause it.

As I aid before, this is a marathon not a sprint. It is going to take time and patience on your part. there is no way to speed the healing process up and you will have to go through it just as the rest of us have.

As Denise says, surrender to your recovery and you will bet through it will much less anxiety.

Take care,
Bill
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