Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead

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javery
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   Posted 10/30/2013 9:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Has anyone watched this documentary? If so, what do you think about it? Do you think that juicing would help you with your illness(es)?
 
For those who haven't watched the documentary, it is about a guy who decides to go on a juice fast for 60 days and ends up getting off his meds, losing weight and becoming much healthier with just vegetables and fruits. For those who would like to try anything to make them feel better, I think you should watch it and see what you think.
 
I don't believe you would need to go on a juice fast in order to get the benefits, I do believe that adding the juicing to your diet would help.
 
Don't like vegetables? The use of fruits helps mask some of the strong flavors of the vegetables. Also, it is believed that if you can keep up with this, you may end up changing what you like the taste of so you may end up liking vegetables more down the road.
 
I'm not trying to get anyone to do this but more so wanting to find out what people think and for those that do this, what is your experience and suggestions? I also wanted to put this out there for those that are still looking for an alternative natural path that can possibly help. Another note is that for those who have had surgery, if you haven't thought of this, getting a juicer and doing this would help you get all the nutrients you need until you are able to eat more solid foods.
 
Thanks!

Diaas2
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   Posted 10/30/2013 11:14 AM (GMT -6)   
I think its important to get protein too, even if it doesn't come from meats. For people like me, omega 3 fatty acids are rather important. I've found that I can drop my ADD meds all together simply by eating the right kind of foods. I eat more eggs than anyone I know. (We've dis-proven with science that eggs do not cause high cholesterol, sorry guys, AT ALL.) It's inflammation caused by eating foods our body does not recognize as real foods, like processed foods and fake ingredients Although I know that the acai berry does have some, but it has way more omega 6 and omega 9. Studies show that not having the correct balance of these causes all kinds of issues as well. Getting a juicer and adding protein to the blended fruit is definitely going to be something I'll be doing during my recovery, mainly because it will be easier on my wrap.

http://www.sott.net/article/242516-Heart-surgeon-speaks-out-on-what-really-causes-heart-disease

http://lifehacker.com/5847591/10-stubborn-food-myths-that-just-wont-die

Also take into consideration that those having the nissen fundoplication will experience some bad gas and bloating eating vegetables, although I'm not sure how that changes when they are blended. I'd imagine it does not matter.

Post Edited (Diaas2) : 10/30/2013 11:33:12 AM (GMT-6)


StephanieJean
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   Posted 10/30/2013 11:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Juice makes me super gassy and the fruit acids give me heartburn. I watch the documentary and bought a juicer like two years ago and after about a week of juicing my blood sugar was all whacked out, I had heartburn and my allergies were a mess.
I switched over to making smoothies, and only having one a day and all my negative symptoms cleared up. I like the fiber and the fact i can add flax and protein if I want and its more filling for less calories because I get all the fiber in the juice.

My friend at work got a juicer and juiced more vegetables and he seems to really enjoy it though, he juices cabbage, cucumbers, lettuces and all kinds of low sugar stuff. I think that might be the key to success is to keep the acid and the sugars lower than what I did.

Diaas2
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   Posted 10/30/2013 12:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Eating fruit significantly cuts diabetes risk - but drinking juice increases it, says study.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/eating-fruit-significantly-cuts-diabetes-risk--but-drinking-juice-increases-it-says-study-8791472.html

javery
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   Posted 10/30/2013 12:45 PM (GMT -6)   
The article is interesting but doesn't specify the type of juice. Fresh juice ran through a juicer or juice bought at the store? In any case, in the documentary, they tend to lean more towards the benefits of vegetables over fruits. It almost seems as though the fruits are only used to counter the taste of the vegetables.
 
But going back to the article, I can see some reasoning to it as the pulp from the juice contains additional nutrients that can balance out the effects of consuming the sugars from the juice faster if only juicing fruits.
 
I started the juicing thing today, but only as more of a supplement as I am still eating whole foods, meat and vegetables, for lunch and dinner. But the only difference I make is I run everything through a food processor instead of a juicer and leave in the pulp. I add a little water so it's not so thick. I believe by doing this I am getting the benefits of consuming more vegetables and fruits as well as the nutrients in the pulp. This morning I drank 20 oz. (2 1/2 cups) of the stuff and it kept me full for 4 hours until lunch and I had no heartburn in between. With my normal breakfast of bananas and strawberries, I tend to feel a little heartburn after about an hour and am hungry after 2 hours from eating. Although what I'm doing probably isn't considered juicing, it is still the same concept. For those that are interested, the recipe I am using is here. Just adding 2-3 cups of water to it though.

icesk8r
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   Posted 10/30/2013 7:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I watched the movie and am on day five of a five-day juice fast. I'm looking forward to eating again tomorrow. :-)

I was hoping some of my asthma and acid reflux symptoms would decrease, but I feel more or less the same. The only difference I noticed is that some dry skin on my face went away.

I'm glad I did it, though. Now I feel like I've got a clean slate for starting/continuing a new diet tomorrow. I'm hoping to start HCL tablets within a week. I've heard a lot of good things about HCL.

javery
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   Posted 10/31/2013 8:10 AM (GMT -6)   
icesk8r,

I am glad to hear you didn't have a bad experience with it. I believe that some of the health issues we have took years to create so in turn it will take time to heal. The difference between letting the body heal naturally and taking medications, is that medications will make it seem like you are healing faster, but it is only masking the symptoms so you don't notice it at all. As with cuts, scrapes, and bruises, it takes time for your body to heal those, but that is damage done in a few seconds. Just to think that it can take up to a week or two for those small injuries to heal makes you wonder just how long it would take for long term internal injuries/health issues to heal. In some cases it could take months or years depending on how you plan on treating it.

I do believe in the micronutrients as Joe had talked about in the documentary. As we digest more of those, it helps our cells regenerate and get back on track. The biggest key and lesson learned though is that in order to remain healthy once you get there is to maintain the diet that keeps you healthy. If you go back down the track you were on before, you will be right back to where you were before or worse.

I hope that by going down the path you are that things will get better for you. Good luck!
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