Scope all clear, now what?

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newmumma84
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   Posted 11/7/2013 10:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone!!
 
Long time not chat. So I had my beautiful baby boy on the 13th September, name Alfie :) I was put back on the waiting list for an upper scope to see what was causing my chronic silent gerd I have had for 7-8 years which has given me a constant sore throat. I had the scope 2 days ago and the results came back everything looks normal?? no biopsies were needed and negative for h pylori bacteria. I really thought there would be some damage?? obviously I'm happy about the outcome but it leaves me wondering why I get this reflux and sore throat associated with it? I have gall stones and my doctor is convinced it's caused by them and wants my gall bladder out but everything I read states the two are not associated?? Has anyone had the two associated? advice is very welcome :)
 
Thanks

javery
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   Posted 11/8/2013 1:28 PM (GMT -6)   
It seems as though the two shouldn't be connected, but through research, I have found that your diet can play a roll on both. As I have looked at hundreds of documents, sites, blogs, and forums, I couldn't tell you the exact things I have found, but I have seen numerous times mentioning of gallbladder problems due to a diet that also causes gerd problems. I believe in my most recent research, about different nutrients and lectins, there may be something that has to do with your body not getting the proper nutrients and you absorbing things that are not agreeing with your body. Lectins in plants, specifically grains, can cause havok on our bodies. I'm not trying to turn you away from grain based foods, but it is something to consider. You do not need carbs from grains for energy, you can get carbs from fruits and vegetables and our body is able to convert fat into energy as well. What I am proposing, is to try cuting grain based foods as well as processed foods for a couple weeks or so and see how that does. You may want to talk to your doctor about this first, especially if you are breastfeeding.

Don't quote me on this, but I think I remember reading something about if your body doesn't take in the proper nutrients, it can prevent your gallbladder from working correctly and the toxins in your body help with creating the gallstones. I'm not sure on the specifics but it is something worth looking into. I recommend doing some research on lectins in grains and phytic acid. I hope some of this information is helpful for you.

StephanieJean
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   Posted 11/8/2013 2:26 PM (GMT -6)   
newmumma84, HI!
Have you had a Bravo, or a 24 hour PH test or a barium swallow?
Just curious because I had a lot of reflux that the Upper GI did not really find much on.
The 24 Hour PH test was what really told the doctors I had a serious problem and then they started taking me seriously.
Perhaps you just need more/different tests to get to the bottom of what is wrong.

Did they find that you had any hernia? Sometimes the sliding hiatial hernias are hard to see.

opnwhl4
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   Posted 11/9/2013 12:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with SJ. If you haven't had a PH study, manometry, and/or barium swallow they aren't seeing the whole picture of what is going on.

Take care,
Bill


Ps. I know a lot of people who have GERD also have had troubles with their gallbladder and quite a lot have had it removed. Mine stopped working about 10 years ago and it was removed.
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Sherrine
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   Posted 11/9/2013 4:56 PM (GMT -6)   
First of all, congratulations on the birth of your beautiful son, Alfie! I bet you are enjoying him a lot.

Now to your question. I have GERD but have never gotten a sore throat from it. I might be the odd man out, though. I just handle it by diet and avoid foods that causes reflux. If I want something that can bother me, I eat it earlier in the day.

But I do get a sore throat from sinuses dripping. I have no sinus pain but it drips down the back of my throat and makes it sore. I'm just mentioning this just in case you have a couple of things going on here.

I'm happy that you don't have any damage and you want to keep it that way. I do have scarring.

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newmumma84
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   Posted 11/10/2013 8:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you all for your replies.
 
Javery, I didn't think the two should be connected, but I can see what you mean about diet playing a big role. I went to a naturopath last year due to constant fatigue and she made me cut out a lot of things including certain carbs/grains and I felt so much better.
 
Sherrine, I do sometimes get sinus pain but I never have a runny nose? do I have to have a runny nose to get post nasal drip?
 
They didn't report a hernia so i'm assuming I don't have one. I think I will talk to my doctor about further testing like pH study and Barium swallow, thank you all again for your feedback.
 
Sarah

opnwhl4
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   Posted 11/12/2013 1:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Sarah-

You don't have to have a runny nose to have post nasal drip.

It's sometimes hard for them to see a HH during an EGD, but you very well may only have a very small one.

Take care,
Bill
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MJKhalid
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   Posted 11/12/2013 6:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Sarah,

If you had the scope and the structural is OK, then the next logic step is : did you check if you have any sleeping disorder?, you have sour throat in the morning right !!!! sometimes this is associated with sleep apnea, if I were you I will check this with a physician.

Khalid
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soppendeuff
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   Posted 11/13/2013 2:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Sometimes hiatal hernias don't show up on the scope. Mine is only viewable when I am upright - so when I am laying down for a scope, there is no sign of it. The hernias can slide around and hide, the little buggers. I would insist upon a barium swallow. They do those tests both upright and laying down.

Good luck,
Leslie
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