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gunner4565
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   Posted 11/27/2013 11:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Firstly, thanks to all of you who generously have taken the time to report your symptoms, experiences and results on this forum. Although I have never posted, I spent hours reading post here before I decided to do the 'Wrap'.

Some History:

Ulcer at age 11

Extreme Heartburn ages 11-22 (now called GERD)

Extreme Erosive Esophagitis age 22

Elevated head of bed age 22-53, problems went away and I had a normal, productive life

Heartburn returned slowly from age 53 to 61, increased use of PPIs, two/week then more and more

Age 58, Took some mobic for join pain then pain like my previous ulcer returned

EDG showed pre-Barretts tissue, but not Barrett's E., no H-Pylori

Most Ulcer type symptoms went away, but not GERD

Age 58-60 GERD gets worse, moved to another state, 2 new doctors, more PPIs

EGD showed gastritis, actually the gastritis was the worst at this point

Age 60-61, lost 30 pounds due to eating problems

Read your site and found the best surgeon around

Testing EGD, motility, PH test which came back negative...I failed here, I had to take a PPI due to the pain of trying to be off it for 4 days, so I wrecked the PH test. Fortunatly, the DR. was not mad and believed my pain story. Motility was good. EGD showed gastritis.

Liver reduction/weight loss, liquid diet a week prior to surgery.

Surgery Nov 19, 2003

Day 1 - 2 hour surgery, woke up, felt cold, shivered a lot. They said I had been doing that a lot. They thought I was having a seisuire....nope just cold (where are the blankets?) Pain started about 2 hours after being taken to my room. Pushed the button a few times, no pain now. Had a good sleep that night with catheter inserted.

Day 2 - Need to urinate, wait, I have a catheter, hmmm, wife checks, nothing in bag, called tech,, hmm he says. Between the two of us we figured it drained by bladder only when laying flat on the floor and not hanging on the hook. Problem solved. They took my pain button away and wanted me to walk. Ha. Made it 20 ft, grabbed the railing, doubled over from the incredible shoulder pain. They gave me oxycodone which worked for about 2 hours out of the 4 hour interval. So I took my walks 30 minutes after taking the oxycodone. Laying almost flat reduced the shoulder pain. Why did my shoulders hurt. Its the CO2 gas they blow you up with so they can see bettter. They don't get all of it out and it causes phrenic nerve pain to your shoulders. Stayed another night as my drive home was not short. Barium swallow test to insure my wrap did not leak. Clear liquids started.


Day 3 - Mostly like Day 2, shoulder pain 8 out of 10, more oxycodone please, thank you. Do you sell it by the gallon? No? Walking painful in shoulders. Hmm. still no abdominal pain. My lovely wife drove me home. Jello, Isopure, and popsicles for dinner. No problems swallowing at all. Yum. Wife watching food prep shows on TV. Oxycodone then off to bed. Slept well.

Day 4,5 - Clear liquid diet continues, pain in shoulders is less but very painful. Reorganized my basement workshop. Mild loose stools in morning. Took some Imodium, worked. No problems swallowing. Food is going down well. Some gas and feeling of pressure, but I am able to burp a little, but not much. The pressure feeling goes away by itself.

Day 6 - no oxycodone needed, but shoulders still hurt. Starting to mix some Adkins Advantage with the Isopure, added custard.

Day 7 - shoulder pain is finally gone. Now I can feel my stomach a little. Incisions (5) are a little sore but not bad at all. In fact they never hurt much. Cream of chicken soup, mashed potatoes and gravy, smushed cottage cheese.

Day 8 - Had trouble sleeping last night. Did not feel well all day. Mashed potatoes, gravy, cream of chicken soup. Gastritis pain is coming back with the addition of more foods. They gave me Prevacid dissolving tabs to take for 30 days until my post-op appointment. Took some H2 blockers also to kill the burning pain. Also bought some B12 tabs as I have been reading chronic gastritis can be caused by B12 deficiency due to extended PPI use. Can't hurt I guess.

Day 9 - tomorrow...watch everyone eat turkey, stuffing, but eat mashed potatoes & gravy with popsicles.

More to come.

Jerry

Diaas2
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   Posted 11/28/2013 12:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I feel you on the watching everyone else eat.. I'll be doing the same tomorrow! No fun.

lajenner
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   Posted 11/28/2013 9:31 AM (GMT -6)   
That's a bummer the shoulder pain was so bad for you. I'm glad it's over. I don't think there is ever a better time to have this surgery. There is always something we might miss. Thankfully, by Christmas, you should enjoy a somewhat normal meal.

Large doses of B vitamins make my stomach hurt, be careful with that.

Keep up your walking, too - it helps you regain your strength. Hang in there!
Laurie
Nissen Fundolplication Sept. 10, 2013

gunner4565
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   Posted 11/28/2013 6:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Day 9 , A very good day. I worked in the basement all day long, even some mild exercise with some light dumbbells. My wife made some tuna casserole and pureed it and put some parmesan cheese on top. Very yummy compared to what I have been having. It went down pretty well, I took my time. Can't eat very much, but I stopped losing weight. Doc, said don't rush the solid foods...but I want to...OK I won't.

gunner4565
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   Posted 11/29/2013 9:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Day 10 , Another pretty good day. I did not sleep well last night. I had RLS (restless leg syndrome) in my arms, hands and legs. I wonder what they call that? Also got some relatively painful gas this afternoon and evening. Took some GasX and it seemed to help. I have been eating more and with more variety, so I guess gas is to be expected. I was active today most of the day.
Fifty years with GERD

gunner4565
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   Posted 11/30/2013 7:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Day 11 - morning - Wow...slept great ad feel wonderful this morning. I have been sleeping until about 10 previous days but I slept so well last night I got up at 7AM. Hope it lasts most of the day. Mornings are typically the worst for me. Time for my Malt-O-Meal with milk & honey!

Gunner
Fifty years with GERD

gunner4565
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   Posted 11/30/2013 7:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Day 11 - afternoon and evening - Awesome - I felt really good today. Took a 60 mile car trip with my son-in-law to pick up a BlowFlex machine, carried it down 3 flights of stairs and loaded in car, then unloaded and setup it up at home. Creme of Chicken soup, homemade mushroom soup, orzo with marinera sauce, jello, pudding, Atkins Advantage completed the menu today. Hope things continue like this.

Gunner
Fifty years with GERD

gunner4565
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   Posted 12/1/2013 5:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Day 12 - Another wonderful day. I am feeling better at day 12 that I have for the last 6 months. I hope it continues. Meals today: Maltomeal + honey + milk, Cream of Chicken soup, Macaroni and cheese, Boost, Adkins Advantage, mashed potatos + gravy, Orzo with marinera sauce. I can add more solid food in a couple more days. I'm not really having any trouble swallowing food, just need to eat slowly at first, then I can speed up. I also have lowered the head of my bed to almost no incline. I have slept inclined so long it feels strange to go flat. More tomorrow.
Fifty years with GERD

StephanieJean
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   Posted 12/1/2013 7:55 PM (GMT -6)   
WELCOME TO THE WRAPPED CLUB!
Stephanie
Lap*Nissen*Fundo 8/2013
Thoracic Outlet Syndrome, Migraines, Anxiety, PCOS

dencha
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   Posted 12/1/2013 9:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Jerry,
Welcome to the yeah yeah yeah Wrapped Club! yeah yeah yeah It sounds as if you're doing well. Don't forget that your wrap will become increasingly more swollen during the first two weeks or so of recovery, so don't be surprised if your swallowing gets worse before it gets better!

You may have already come across this, but here's my early recovery journal:
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=45&m=2183443

You're in the roughest part of recovery, so hang in there...it'll get better!

Best wishes,
Denise

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Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

gunner4565
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   Posted 12/2/2013 11:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Day 12 evening- well I ate some Tomato sauce on Orzo and I guess I ate too much. Gastritis ensued for about 5 hours with lots of gas. Looks like tomato based food are to be introduced in moderation and I think I will wait a couple weeks before trying that again. I did not follow my diet and I paid with pain. But it sure satisfied me for about an hour, but not worth it in the end.

Gunner
Fifty years with GERD

gunner4565
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   Posted 12/2/2013 9:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Day 13 - Went to work for a few hours and felt pretty good. Last nights gastritis attack is gone with just very minor residual pain. I have not experienced the 2 week inflamation I read about on this site. Seems swallowing is very easy and I can burp when needed. I can now lay flat without feeling my stomach contents run up my esophagus. Meals today: Malt-o-meal, honey and milk, Cheese on orzo, homemade potato soup, cream of chicken soup, applesauce. Also removed the tape on the incisions. They all look good and are healing very quickly. They never bothered me. The center one was a little sore for the first week.
Fifty years with GERD

dencha
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   Posted 12/2/2013 10:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Jerry,
It's great to hear that you are doing well! Don't forget that you are recovering from major surgery, so take it easy! Also, even though you can swallow pretty easily, still be sure to take small bites and chew, chew, chew. You won't want to irritate your wrap unnecessarily.
Happy healing!
Denise

GERD/Heartburn Moderator
Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”
Eckhart Tolle

gunner4565
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   Posted 12/2/2013 11:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the advice dencha. I learned my lesson last night. Stick to the diet!

Gunner
Fifty years with GERD

gunner4565
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   Posted 12/4/2013 9:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Day 14 - Another good day much like Day 13. Did not feel great but I worked all day, came home form dinner, worked out a bit, then sleep.
Fifty years with GERD

gunner4565
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   Posted 12/4/2013 9:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Day 15 - Like Day 14 but felt better. Tomorrow I will take a short road trip. I'm not have any issues swallowing, I just eat slowly and eat small frequent meals. This seems to be working, just like the Doc and other on this forum have said. So I guess I'm doing well. Food today: Malt-O-Meal, honey, milk, Boost, pudding, yogurt, potato soup, mushroom soup, Ritz crackers, applesauce and more Boost.
Fifty years with GERD

gunner4565
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   Posted 12/5/2013 10:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Day 16 - I slept well last night, got up and ate breakfast but laid down on the sofa and slept 3 more hours. I just did not feel that well. Then ate lunch, went to work where I felt pretty good. Home for dinner. Had some fried fish, mashed potatoes and gravy, applesauce. I have been taking 1/2 Beano tablet the last couple days and it really has helped with gas formation. I will continue Beano for a while.

Gunner
Fifty years with GERD

lajenner
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   Posted 12/6/2013 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Sounds good Gunner - I wish I had known about the beano early on. I just used gasx after the bloating started. I'm glad you can eat what you are. I was able to do that, too. Our surgeons are apparently more lenient than others when it comes to post-op dietary restrictions.
Laurie
Nissen Fundolplication Sept. 10, 2013

distantfrog
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   Posted 12/6/2013 11:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Jerry,,
 
Was wondering if during your fifty years with GERD if you had any issues with LPR (i.e silent reflux,acid and lumpy feel in the throat and acid in the mouth).I am concerned about getting surgery and not getting that solved as it is very annoying.To date you seem to be happy with surgery?
 
Louis  

gunner4565
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   Posted 12/7/2013 12:15 AM (GMT -6)   
distantfrog, I did not know what LPR was until last year when I started reading on this site. Yes, I had symptoms of LPR for all 50 years, just did not know what it was. Mostly hoarseness and lots of sore throats. I went to the doc many times for theses problems but no one knew about GERD in those years. SO I just slept on my elevated bed and that made me well enough to have a normal existence.

I have not been hoarse since the nissen, but it has not been very long. I had what my doc called globus and that was fleeting anyway and I have not had it for a year or so.

Also had two sinus surgeries over the years. Not sure if that was related, but I'm doing well now. But years of damage can't go away quickly, so time will tell.

Gunner
Fifty years with GERD

gunner4565
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   Posted 12/7/2013 12:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Day 17 - Took a road trip down to D.C. Picked up some sound equipment for my church, then went to the Smithsonian Natural History Museum. Then to Gettysburg for a John Denver Tribute Christmas Concert and dinner at our favorite cafe. I managed to eat some soup and fish. So my energy is good. Still some gas but I guess that goes with the territory for a while longer. Looking forward to breakfast tomorrow, corned beef hash and eggs. mmmmmm.

Gunner
Fifty years with GERD

paleoman
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   Posted 12/7/2013 8:56 AM (GMT -6)   
gunner4565 said...


Also had two sinus surgeries over the years. Not sure if that was related, but I'm doing well now. But years of damage can't go away quickly, so time will tell.

Gunner


Thanks for your insight!

I would love to hear more how your sinus symptoms are doing. I had a sinus surgery 15 years ago and not until my ENT put me on nexium (a couple years later) did my sinuses get truly better.

I am now contemplating surgery as ppis no longer help my reflux, LPR, or sinus.

gunner4565
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   Posted 12/8/2013 8:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Day 19 - Ate pretty normal meals although small. Malt-o-meal for breakfast, Corned beef hash and eggs for lunch, We had 8 inches of snow so I had to shovel it for about an hour. Dinner was chicken pot pie with veggies. I guess those were my first veggies since surgery. Still drinking Boost and Adkins Advantage for calories and vitamins/minerals. Sleeping almost flat now, no GERD at all. Now if I can just get off the PPIs without causing too much gastritis. Another 10 days and I will start the weening process.
Gunner
Fifty years with GERD

gunner4565
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   Posted 12/10/2013 10:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Day 21 - probably the most normal day so far. I'm having no abdominal pain at all. All the incisions are healed well. I feel like I could eat anything as long as I chew it well, but I am going to stick with the docs diet because I don't want to cause an issue for a little crave.

I overdid it two days ago shoveling snow but I recovered well but it took about 24 hours before I got my strength back.

Some gas after dinner only and I usually have a late snack then go to bed. That's something I have not done for years due to the GERD. I am sleeping almost flat now and no acid reflux! hurray!

Gunner
Fifty years with GERD

gunner4565
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   Posted 12/11/2013 8:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Day 22 - Not as good today. Felt OK upon rising, normal breakfast of Malt-O-Meal and honey,went to the UPS store to mail a package, then off to work but suddenly got lots of gas pain in abdomen, went home and well..the D word. I rested a couple hours and felt much better. Went to work for a few hours. Dinner was fish and baked potato. Exercised a bit, then off to bed in a couple hours.

Gunner
Fifty years with GERD
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