Regurgitation leading to sore throat?

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zeldagoblin
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   Posted 12/19/2013 8:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi guys, I'm having some post op issues I wonder if of you can shed some light on.

My belching issues have returned worse than before the op. my surgeon said it is from swallowing air and is coming from the oesophagus not the stomach. But when I wake in the morning I feel immense pressure at my upper valve and when I move I burp it out. Can the air stay there all night long, or am I swallowing air in my sleep? I also burp a lot more when i move about.

Also, my throat inflammation had all but resolved itself before the op and now it is back with great vengeance. I am wondering, when I eat and something gets stuck I have to go to the toilet and regurgitate it and it brings loads of mucus in my throat at mouth. Can this mucus cause inflammation? I don't know much about it, but need to find an answer, the burning throat is agony and nothing seems to reduce it when it happens.

Any ideas?

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   Posted 12/19/2013 8:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi zeldagoblin,

It sounds as if you've got an overly tight wrap. I can't remember when you had the surgery, so if you could refresh my memory, it would be helpful. If you're regurgitating stuck food, you're definitely not getting reflux. Food held back at the wrap site can be very irritating to the esophagus. Since the esophagus is a "dumb organ", it interprets all pain as reflux.

The mucous is being made to coat the esophagus. It's the esophagus' only line of defense when it's being attacked by irritants, so it's bound to increase when foods are sitting at the wrap site and not moving to the stomach where it belongs.

Be sure to ALWAYS take small bites and chew, chew, chew your food until it is a liquid/creamy consistency. I am five years out with a fairly tight wrap (I can't take large pills without crushing them, etc.) and I still have to be careful with certain foods. I was eating a Panini yesterday with a heartier than usual roll, and one of my bites got uncomfortably stuck. It went down, but after that I took smaller bites and chewed more thoroughly.

You've had a wrap created to keep food/acid in your stomach. You will forever more have to chew more carefully to ensure that you don't irritate your wrap or esophagus. An unnatural barrier has been created, and you need to adjust your eating to match its ability to hold things back. If yours is tight, as it seems to be, be sure to always, always, always, take small bites and chew, chew, chew, so you don't get yourself into a place were regurgitation of your esophageal contents is necessary.

I'm sure your burping can be air in your esophagus. I don't think you need to worry a moment about reflux, but you DO need to be concerned about eating extremely careful and slowly.

On the bright side, your wrap is doing it job...just a little better than you want it to!
Happy eating,
Denise
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StephanieJean
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   Posted 12/19/2013 8:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Zeldagoblin
How long ago was your surgery?

I have esophageal burps all the time and I do swallow air when I sleep. It is sometimes difficult to tell if a burp is coming from the esophagus and if it is coming from the stomach. I only am able to stomach burp if I have recently drank wine ( I know weird right?) I have no control over the burp either, it just kind of happens. Depending on where you are post op, you may be able to stomach burp.

If you are still getting things stuck, chances are your wrap is tight and things are getting hung up in your wrap site and its causing inflammation, especially if you are regurgitating. That can be very irritating to your esophagus and your wrap and should be avoided if possible.

I would baby my wrap and esophagus if I were you by really watching what you are eating. Mushy soft stuff and anything that can easily get down.

zeldagoblin
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   Posted 12/19/2013 9:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi guys, thanks for your responses. My op was four weeks ago last Tuesday.

I'm unsure if the wrap is too tight because I have zero bloating. Also I couldn't burp at all, oesophageal or otherwise, til day five. I felt the gas trying to come up, very painful, but that stopped once the burping started, but it has become more and more present all the time. The eating is strange, sometimes everything goes down fine, even toast, but other times even liquid hangs about and gurgles back into the throat until I spit it out.

I'm not too worried since I have read that in the early days all bets are off, I'm just hoping that the wrap hasn't slipped or something like that. I remember on my worst days before the op the burping would lead to the throat burning, and that is what seems to be happening again. Last night my throat was on fire. Lots of burping today too.

I would just be so gutted if this was all for nothing.

opnwhl4
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   Posted 12/19/2013 10:46 AM (GMT -6)   
zeldagoblin

The types of food that can cause issues is weird. Liquids and soft food without "body" to it can get stuck easy. Toast usually goes down well because it cab be chewed up very well vs soft bread that just turns into a sticky glob.

Solid meats are trouble easily on, but ground meats usually will go down good, but you have to chew everything very well. Drinking something warm before you eat can help loosen things up a little and make it easier to get it past the wrap.

The food that sticks above the wrap and comes back up shouldn't really cause any burning of your esophagus because it didn't get into your stomach and mix with acid. the esophagus just reveres itself and brings it back up. This though may be causing some swelling and causing issues from that though.

All in all you are experiencing very normal issues for 4 weeks out.

Take care,
Bill
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   Posted 12/19/2013 10:53 AM (GMT -6)   
You have received wise and encouraging posts from some of our best members and I would trust them. At 4 weeks you are still consider early into your recovery.
 
Be patient and keep on coming here for support.
 
Kindly,
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zeldagoblin
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   Posted 12/20/2013 4:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for the helpful advice. I know it's early days yet, and vie read lots of posts where people fear the op hasn't worked. I. Guess we go through so much and the fear of it all being futile is scary. It's been a very long lonely road up til now.

Can any of you burp after the op? I am obviously one of the lucky ones who can, since I am bloat free, so I have that to be grateful for.

As far as eating goes, I'm being really careful. I've eaten only liquids and soft soup and broth, and occasionally toast chewed to oblivion. I find coco pops go down like a miracle, so those are a life saver.

I am just feeling so poorly with the throat inflammation, hope it calms down very soon.

Thanks again
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