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Posted 3/19/2014 7:35 AM (GMT -8)
Hi Debra,

I really think that what you're experiencing is heavy swelling of the wrap. If you got a pill stuck (also caused by increased swelling) that would irritate the wrap and could definitely cause sharp pains. Anytime the wrap is irritated (even after healing) you can get some pain.

If you're getting a cold don't worry. I had a lung infection during recovery, and coughed my guts out constantly. Even with all that, things held just fine. push a pillow against your belly to support the cough.

You might be surprised after your wrap heals, with your lung improvement. I always had the cold going to my chest, but it has improved a lot once things healed, and my lungs had some time to calm down and not be constantly accosted by reflux.

Keep following up with that surgeon's office. Good grief. My GI doc said that after the surgery the patient is in a little bit of limbo...does the care go back to the surgeon or go to the GI doc. If you don't get satisfaction from the surgeon's office, you could always go the GI route.

I don't think it's anything to worry about, but it's always better to report something that is really bothering you.

Hang in there!
Denise
Posted 3/19/2014 7:50 AM (GMT -8)
I don't have a GI doctor. My family doctor sent me to the surgeon directly I'm in BC. Not sure if that's our way of doing things or not. My family doctor is very good. He knew I had the hernia and my whole history with reflux. No need to add another doctor in between I guess?!?! I'm not sure.

Yes I'm thinking you're right about the swelling. I thought I'd hit the peak about a week ago when swallowing got tougher again but maybe not. Maybe that was just the beginning of the extra swelling. Seems a bit odd I'd swell so much so late but my body always has a mind of its own....hence my abherrent artery. Lol
Should I add Advil back in for inflammation or will that not really affect this swelling? My throat feels odd, almost sore/burning but deep down. Started 2 days ago. Think maybe that's just pain radiating from my chest b /c it burns/aches too.

Debra

Post Edited (Wendy Workout) : 3/19/2014 10:14:10 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 3/19/2014 8:12 AM (GMT -8)
Hi Deb,

Some people don't get much swelling, while others get extreme swelling. There is a continuum. Also, there's no set time when it will happen, and no set time when it will be relieved. It's all ball-park numbers...nothing set in stone.

I'm not sure about the Advil. It makes sense, but since I have a reactive stomach, I stay away from meds like that. That would be a good thing to ask your doc.

No need to add a GI doc. If you surgeon isn't responsive, call your family doc for advice. If he doesn't know the answers, perhaps he can get better results from calling. It's maddening that a surgeon's office isn't more responsive to a patient so soon after surgery.

No wonder surgeons have no clue about the recovery from this procedure. They wash their hands of patients ASAP, and never really become familiar with the recovery process!

Have you tried ice? I'm a big ice advocate, since I can't take anti-inflammatories.
Hang in there!
Denise
Posted 3/19/2014 8:24 AM (GMT -8)
Yes I use ice. Feels best when I lay on it centered in my mid back. Just added to my previous post about my throat. Makes me think more its inflammation. I do ok on Advil so I'll try that. Only thing is they are big to swallow. I have the kids chewables so you have to take 4. Nasty but if it will help, I'm in. Advil is the one that got stuck a few days after getting home and hurt a lot. First time getting something really stuck. With more swelling I'd never get that down.

My surgeon gave me no pain meds once discharged. I had a weeks worth of Maxeran for nausea only. Got pain meds from my GP as I had my check up with him the day after I got home. I only got a few bc they are too strong for me. I cut them in half at first, then in 4. They were only OxyContin 5mg to begin with. I don't tolerate narcotics at all and they make me sick. Wonder if all the drugs and anesthetic combined are making my body react and leading to more pain. If course I'm over thinking it now. I just know how reactive I am to all that.

I'm going to go with the flow and see how things go. No more stressing. Whatever happens happens. Just my body's response. Next week I'll be laughing about all this. :-)

Debra
Posted 3/19/2014 5:35 PM (GMT -8)
Debra-

Sorry I have been MIA for a while. Softball has started and I coach a travel team.

Anyhow....Here's my take on things after reading through.

You started activities way too soon. This combined with the normal swelling, possible dehydration, and not taking pain meds will get you in a bad place. I learned the hard way myself.

Along with ice I found a heating pad worked wonders for the sore areas. Ice will help with swelling, but heat helps with healing because it increases blood flow.

Stay hydrated. Even slightly dehydrated will make pain and such worse. Your body is healing and using up a lot of nutrient and minerals.

I know we had said this before, but listen to your body and do what it tells you. Rest as much as it says you need to or it will be very unhappy.

What you are going through is not uncommon. May be a touch more intense than normal, but not too far from it. The ones who fly through this recovery with very little issues are the rare ones. I was out of work for 8 weeks and took pain meds for about a month.
You had major surgery and just because you don't have a zipper down your belly doesn't man your insides will hurt any less or heal any faster if you don't rest and let your body heal.

So now that I got that out, I am very happy to see you are going to go with the flow! Much better plan.

Take care,
Bill
Posted 3/19/2014 5:44 PM (GMT -8)
Hi Denise,

Ok trying to go with the flow. First half of today tolerable. Now not so much. Have done very little. The pain in my middle back/towards the right scapula more and my right upper quadrant, under the ribs, it really painful. I can't stand still. Walking and movement exacerbates it. I only ate a few crackers this morning and thin fluids, nothing else. I can feel gas trapped in my stomach and intestines but this pain is much different. I have been getting a ton of pain even without eating and barely drinking even but I have read this can be normal. I have to lay down to get relief. It is not a pulled muscle. It's not from swallowing. I'm at a loss. Everyone on here says they get pain on the left side but the back pain is long gone. It travels until its up in my lower throat. If I didn't know better I'd think I had something stuck in there but know I do not. It's making me nauseous. Am I crazy? Trying to get going here. Life has to keep moving. This is really debilitating. Of course no call back from the surgeon again today. I didn't call them b/c I was ok. I am burping a ton. Not the esophageal burps, I figured those out now. I have taken Gas X 3 times today and gaviscon. Didn't do a thing. I will call the surgeon tomorrow morning for sure. My friend said I look pale now.

Sorry to bother you again with this. I'm just not finding any info anywhere about this pain.

Bill I guess we were posting at the same time. I'm just feeling so unwell as per above. If this is normal then my mind is blown. I cannot believe a surgeon would not prep anyone for this, whether mild reactions or bigger reactions. I am drinking as much as I can. I think today I took in more too. I moved around more but the pain is stopping me completely now. I'm at the point of just wanting to sit and cry. Where did my pain tolerance go? I've had surgery before and nothing like this happened. I feel I should be off pain meds long ago. I haven't been taking them but last night finally took 2.5mg Oxycontin and today children's Advil but that didn't touch the pain. Thanks for the info and sharing. I feel like a lunatic about now.

Debra

Post Edited (Wendy Workout) : 3/19/2014 7:50:47 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 3/19/2014 5:46 PM (GMT -8)
Hi Deb,

Bill is our resident softball coach, and this time of year he gets very busy. And still he finds time to stop by and share his great experience with all of us. He is very wise, and has been through more of these recoveries than anyone should. Still, that makes him extra-informative!

I guess I didn't know you weren't taking any pain medication. While most people don't need to take the heavy duty stuff past a few days, they have some on hand to use as needed.

I bought liquid Tylenol, and used it instead of the narcotic pain medication, as that really doesn't agree with me. It gives me almost a "carsick" feeling in my head. Do they make Advil/Motrin in a liquid form? That would solve you swallowing issues. If you can manage a pain medication, it might help you feel more comfortable.

Listen to Bill...rest. Your body will thank you!
Hope you're feeling better tonight.
Happy healing,
Denise
Posted 3/19/2014 6:07 PM (GMT -8)
Hi Deb,

Just read your latest post...we must have passed each other as we hit "submit"!

What you're describing does not sound typical. Obviously everyone has their own unique reaction to pain, but I think it's pretty clear that you're experiencing pain over and above what is expected, even with peak swelling.

It is unacceptable that your surgeon is not responding to your request. Please call tomorrow and use your assertive self to express what you're going through. I wish you'd called today. If you don't tell them about the extreme pain you're in, they can't help you. Do NOT take no for an answer. Be insistent. Try writing down what you want to say, so you don't forget anything.

Anyone who is experiencing the amount of pain you describe needs to get help from a medical professional, to ensure that all is well, and help you deal with the pain via medication recommendations.

Sorry you're struggling!
Hang in there!
Denise
Posted 3/19/2014 6:28 PM (GMT -8)
I will call in the morning first thing and yes be insistent. I thought today would stay better. I have the worst lower back ever due to injury. I can take 20 mins to try to get off my bed and my legs collapsing under me, take a shot of Torodol (anti inflammatory) and then go work for 12 hours. Pain doesn't normally knock me down. I'm baffled. The pain meds make me have that 'car sick' feeling too. I avoid them at all costs but just took 2.5 OxyContin now. Trying to get my kids fed and off to bed. I'm force feeding some broth with a few minced noodles. Hoping food will give me some energy/strength. The only liquid Tylenol
or Motrin we have is children's. You have to drink most of the bottle. That's why I bought kids chewables b/c it's easier to chew up and swallow with water.

Thank you both. I'll try to stop complaining. I just know you guys get it. Explaining this to someone who hasn't gone through this just won't understand it fully. Kind of like childbirth. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I truly mean it.
Posted 3/19/2014 7:48 PM (GMT -8)
Let us know what your surgeon's office has to say. Hope you have a better night! Good luck tomorrow!
Denise
Posted 3/19/2014 8:09 PM (GMT -8)
I will Denise. My husband is beginning to think I am having issues with my gallbladder or pancreas. The pain is way worse after eating the noodles and broth, even with the Ocycontin in me. I read up on Pancreatitis and Gallbladder. It actually fits my symptoms almost perfect. If the hospital I had surgery in was close I'd go to their ER tonight but it's an hour away. My surgeon better check me tomorrow in some way. My hubby is a chiropractor. I had him check my back to be sure I didn't have a rib head out or something. Nothing wrong that he can find. Doesn't feel like my typical back issues. Thanks for the support.
Posted 3/19/2014 8:41 PM (GMT -8)
Debra-

If it happens to feel like someone stuck a screw driver in your shoulder blade it very well could be your gall bladder. That's what mine felt like.

Does your surgeon have an after hours call service? If so I'd call tonight. I am wondering why they gave you Oxycotin instead of Hydrocodone or Oxycodone. Oxycotin is a long acting med and is more apt to cause the symptoms you are having with nausea and such. Even Hydromorphone might be a better choice.
The other meds release quicker and usually help with post surgery pain better.

With 5 hours of surgery it's not unusual to need pain meds longer and they did a lot of work in there. I thought the same thing with my 1st nissen and my surgeon got mad when I didn't tell him I was still having high levels of acute pain.

If it is your gallbladder any fats will set it off. If I ate 1 french fry mine would throw a fit for hours. I have noticed a high rate of gallbladder issues and GERD in people. Not sure why it is though.

Take care,
Bill
Posted 3/19/2014 8:57 PM (GMT -8)
Hey Bill,

I just called and there is only a contact number for medical personnel, not patients. I am writing my med wrong, it is oxycodone. It's the lowest dose I could get and I cut it in half and quarters. Usually that enough. Tonight it's doing nothing. I feel like someone has the fingers wrapped around my rib cage in the front and trying to pull my ribs off. It's burning and pain right across both sides now and into my back, throat and chest. No screw driver effect in the scapula though, just pain there.

Trying to palpate my abdomen for pain but nervous to push anywhere that was worked on. It does hurt on the right more. When I push below the sternum there is clicking in my upper chest. Strange! I'm going to try to ride out the pain tonight. It's been better in the mornings so far. I haven't had any fat foods. I force fed but think I shouldn't have now. Wish I just knew things were ok. My hubby is sick and I'd have to get my mother in law to be with the kids if we went to hospital tonight. If I curl up or lean over my legs it's better. If I were to continue to get worse I'll go tonight. It's a long drive. Relief would be nice though.
Posted 3/20/2014 10:17 AM (GMT -8)
Well still no answer. Left a message with the receptionist early this morning. Called back 3 times and no answer. Doesn't say they aren't in today. Woke up feeling ok but of course things are progressing as they have been the last few days. Extremely bloated and gassy without intake even. My husband finds my abdomen slightly firm on my right side and bloated also. Not constipated. Nauseous to drink even water but not severely. Just frustrated! Can't get into my GP. My husband leaves for work at 2pm. Then it's just me and the kids.
Posted 3/20/2014 3:43 PM (GMT -8)
Hi Deb,

That is terrible! I can't believe they'd leave you high and dry so soon after your surgery. That's unforgivable. I wonder if you could call their answering service. Don't let tomorrow go by without talking to someone. Then you'll be faced with a weekend, when it'll be even harder to get through to anyone.

Even if you can't see your primary care doc, could you get a call back from him? You said he is really good. Why not leave a message laying out what you're experiencing, and ask him to call you.

Seriously, I can't believe you haven't been able to reach a single medical professional. Even a PA or nurse practitioner would be fine. Just SOMEBODY!

Glad you felt better in the morning. You know yourself best. Make your decisions about what to do based on that knowledge. Don't second guess yourself.

We're here, for what it's worth. I'll be up a lot tonight, as I'm prepping for my colonoscopy, and I've got to do a second laxative prep at 3:30 AM. Fun, huh? I'll check in here as the night goes on, so if you want to vent, go ahead. I'm listening.

Hang in there!
Denise
Posted 3/20/2014 4:45 PM (GMT -8)
Hi Denise,

The surgeon finally called me between surgeries. He says it doesn't sound surgery related. He says it sounds like Pancreatitis or biliary Duct Disease. I got in to my GP when I explained the surgeon wanted me seen today. My dr is concerned. Sent me for a pile of blood work and an ECG. Checking me for Pancreatitis, liver, gallbladder, heart, pulmonary embolism, and basic blood values.

He did mention it sounds like a severe reflux episode going on but how is that possible when I've had no reflux? I'd think a scant amount maybe but with the surgery, it can't be severe. He mentioned severe swelling too. He's not sure right now.

They did my ECG and wouldn't let me leave. Freaked me out. Asked all my symptoms after I had the test. Made me wait while they either called my doctor or the Cardiology centre they send the results too. Then I was allowed to go to the waiting room only. B/c it's right sided chest pain I was allowed to leave. I wasn't thinking straight today. Chest pain is central, abdominal and back pain central across the back and worse on the right. I'm sure if there was a big enough concern, it wouldn't matter where my pain is. I am getting dizzy spells but my BP is low and I know I'm dehydrated today. Trying to drink. No appetite. My mother in law is here b/c my hubby is at work. I'm nervous to be alone right now.

Waiting on my blood work results. I'm watching 'my ehealth' as you get your results as soon as the dr does. Actually started crying today. Pain and worry. Thanks for listening. I am scared right now and feel awful. Hopefully this is all a severe reaction, delayed I guess.0, and everything turns out fine. I do have to see the surgeon next Thurs still. Might slap him. Upset how I got ditched and not taken seriously at all until today. At least my dr knows me and knows I don't go to dr sunless I have to and don't complain much. I'll let you know once I know more. Not allowed to take narcotics either b/c it's masking pain. Dr gave me stronger reflux meds and more Maxeran and said stick to Tylenol ( which is a waste to take).

Debra
Posted 3/20/2014 5:15 PM (GMT -8)
Hi Debra,

FINALLY! Well, it's always good to get things checked out when you're having symptoms that aren't typical to recovery. As far as your "severe reflux" symptoms, as suspected by your doctor...the esophagus is a "dumb organ", and it interprets all pain as reflux. Someone can have symptoms that seem to be definitely reflux during recovery, with absolutely no reflux...only esophageal pain. Your wrap is very tight right now. I would be willing to bet lots of money that what you're experiencing is definitely NOT reflux. Severe swelling is almost a certainty.

Some of that pain you're experiencing could be referred, I would think.

Anyway, post the results of your blood work, if you find anything out. I'm with you. Hopefully all is well, except for the swelling. Glad your MIL is there to help out!

Hang in there,
Denise
Posted 3/20/2014 9:29 PM (GMT -8)
Hi Denise,

Well so far no evidence of heart, blood clot or infection. Still waiting on a couple electrolytes, liver and gallbladder. Finally caved and took pain meds tonight. Couldn't stand it any more. So far things look good thankfully. If this is extreme swelling I'm totally shocked at the effects. How long does the swelling last? I can't stand the build up all day and the constant nagging burning pain. Worse than the initial pain when I got home. I was up and about and now knocked down. Water makes me nauseous when the pain goes up. Have you ever heard of inflammation doing this? Can a virus inflict this kind of inflammation/reaction? I felt like I was getting sick a couple days ago but then nothing came of that.

Again you have been amazing. You and Bill have helped keep me sane through this. I felt like my heads been in a cloud and slightly drowning lately. I'm completely beat. Hope your prep is going ok. Colonoscopy prep is never fun. Hopefully you get some rest. What time is your procedure? I'm on the west coast in Canada.
Posted 3/21/2014 12:22 AM (GMT -8)
Hi Debra,

I just finished a post to you, and lost it all with an error message. Hate it when that happens!

Now if I can remember what I wrote! It's 4:15 AM and I'm on the last of four 8 oz. doses of Gatorade and Miralax mixture. I started it at 3:30. YUM! I have to be at the clinic at 7, so I don't see much point in going back to sleep. I'm going to be super-tired all day, though, with just about 4 hours of sleep!

Hope you're getting some good rest, and pain has subsided. Glad to hear the blood work you've gotten back so far is normal. What you're experiencing is way outside the norm. I wonder if your reaction has anything to do with the extra work they did removing the errant blood vessel from your esophagus. Five hours is a long time for a Nissen surgery, so it might create some unique reactions.

Hopefully you'll be feeling better today. I'll check back on the forum when I can.

Hang in there!
Denise
Posted 3/21/2014 8:50 AM (GMT -8)
Good morning. Probably feels like afternoon or evening to you by now, being up so early. I woke in pain this time by 442am. Was going to get up but my hubby woke and realized I was in pain. He stayed awake with me so I stayed upstairs. Felt like some heartburn this morning or like something stuck down by, what felt like, the junction of esophagus and stomach. Burning lump feeling and into my back. Usually I don't wake with it, it builds as I get up and drink something.

Last night lots of pain behind right kidney region. Today it's still there but milder. Ovary pain on that side today too. Think I m due to ovulate. Sometimes I feel it painful, other times nothing. It's like everything on my right is hyper sensitive. I'm 3 weeks today and done with this pain. Rest of my bloodwork is normal. Now I really am crazy. Don't know what to do from here. My GP says it can still be Biliary Colic or Chronic Cholecystitis and not show in my bloodwork. Not sure how they determine that. I forget but my hubby says I suffered a bad abdominal pain episode a few years back. I also had two severe attacks when I was 21 and 22. Nothing like that since. Never determined what that was. They guessed gallbladder then. I've had my gallbladder checked by ultrasound a couple times over the last 20 years and nothing. The surgeon thinks it's not surgically related. I'm kind of left hanging. If I go back to the dr he will wonder why I'm sure. I wish they would check the wrap, or esophagus or something to see if they can tell where all this pain is coming from. Maybe it's as you say, just the 5 hours if surgery, resulting in this reaction. Guess I sit in pain now and hope it goes away.

I just need an end in sight. My hubby is home earlier today thankfully. The thought of trying to hang out with my kids, cook, clean up and get their homework, bath and bedtime routine is overwhelming. My dr put me on a stronger PPI to try. Dexilant twice a day instead of my Tecta. I've been taking Gas X and Gaviscon too but doesn't change anything. I felt pretty good and was so excited how I felt and no heartburn. Now I'm very discouraged. I'm cancelling my course this weekend, I can't do it.

Hope you are doing ok. I'm sure you're tired for a couple reasons. What was the scope for? I'm scouring the internet looking for answers so will probably read on here a lot today too. It does say abdominal surgery can trigger gallbladder and pancreas as can rapid weight loss. I lost 15 before surgery over 2 months and then 11 lbs in the 6 days following surgery but only 1 lb since then. Shocking since I barely touch food, mainly drink. I have no metabolism left though. Weight loss is a huge struggle for me. Anything you can think of I should ask my GP or surgeon?

Sorry I'm babbling. I feel like saying thank you is not even enough right now. You've been wonderful even through your own health concerns.

Debra
Posted 3/21/2014 9:14 AM (GMT -8)
Hi Debra,

My colonscopy was a routine screening. Glad I did it, though. They found a polyp at the very end near the appendix, which they'll send for a pathology screen. Guess I'll be getting it done every 5 years now...fun, fun, fun! Yes, I'm pooped! I'm going to try to take a little nap soon. Right now I'm getting that dumping gurgling which I'm sure is a left over result of all that laxative!

If you have a tendency toward gallbladder and abdominal pain anyway, it would make sense that the surgery could rev things up for you. During surgery they detach organs (as needed) and move things around, so they can reach the surgical site. You had surgical tools inside you for 5 hours, which can raise havoc, I'm sure. When we have laproscopic surgery, the evidence that we've been through major surgery is not evident on the outside, so it's hard to understand why things don't get better more quickly. The incisions heal up long before out insides do.

That said, if you're getting gallbladder issues, it would certainly explain the extreme pain. My husband has periodic flares of his gallbladder and it's excruciating. Yet, whenever he has had tests to diagnose the problem, his scans don't show evidence of a problem. It can be very frustrating.

I really don't think there's a need to check the wrap at this point. I know it's hard to trust, but invasive procedures this close to surgery should be avoided if at all possible. A barium swallow would be fine, but I expect it would just tell you that your wrap is tight, which you already know because of the way it's acting.

I doubt the PPI will do anything for the pain, but it might make your stomach/wrap more comfortable. I'm a big advocate of continuing with PPIs for a couple months or so post-op, to protect the healing wrap from reflux rebound.

My suspicion is that you either are having gallbladder symptoms or reacting to the surgery/increased swelling. Hopefully all of this will subside very soon. The fact that you can't tolerate pain meds adds to the problem, as most people would just take them to get through pain. But what do I know? I'm no doctor, so I defer to their wisdom. When in doubt call your doc.

Try to avoid dilation of the wrap if at all possible. You won't know if the tightness is caused by swelling for quite a while, so if you can tough that out it will be best. You had this surgery to keep that acid in your stomach, so don't want to loosen it if you don't have to.

Okay, off to take a nap! I'll check back later.
You can do this!
Denise
Posted 3/21/2014 9:32 AM (GMT -8)
Good timing for your scope then. smilewinkgrin
Was your husband ever given a diagnosis? Or you guys just know? I've only had a couple abdominal flare ups in 20 years and never felt like this. I'm assuming and surgery with its swelling and whatever else is happening is totally messing with my body and has me all discombobulated! Praying for relief soon. No pain meds sucks but I did ask for a few more to deal with this. I only ever took a 1/4 to 1/2 of the minimum dose of 5mg, never a whole one and only 1 or 2 times by evening and night when I'm going crazy with pain. My GP said no b/c they make me sicker and are covering up the pain. He was concerned yesterday as to what is causing all this period. So I have 2 pills left only.

I definitely won't do a dilation until a good few months passes if need be then. He mentioned I might need one. Not sure how he knows that yet. I'll see what the surgeon says on Thursday. He did ask if I was having pain in the upper right incision. Wonder why. Most post mention the upper left one being sore. Maybe they worked that one a lot for the artery. Who knows.

Hope you have/had a good nap and your tummy settles.
Posted 3/22/2014 2:28 PM (GMT -8)
Update: ended up in ER last night. Called my dr b/c pain got so bad 20-30 mins after trying to eat a few bites only. He said its time to go to the hospital. This is not normal. ER dr was amazing. Had a CT scan which was normal. All bloodwork last night normal. Today a couple #'s slightly out. Have to look them up. Was kept overnight for pain control and have a barium swallow and u/s of gallbladder this morning.

My surgeon came in and cancelled the tests but cancelling the u/s was missed and I had it done. Ran more blood work. Said all my pain is gas. I told him no it's not. I have tons of gas and this is different. Plus why am I having extreme gas when I'm barely touching food. He stupid little resident totally on his side. ER dr completely not on their side. Bet all his money on my gallbladder. Surgeon told me u/s and blood work normal. I asked for copies. Well they fessed up a couple values just barely out and I have sludge in my gallbladder. I was pissed off. They said sludge can't cause biliary colic or pain. WTH!!!!! They know I don't agree with them at all. Neither does ER dr. I'm livid. Back on liquids only til I see the surgeon Thursday.

Had an allergic reaction to contrast dye. Asked nurse about 4am if I had a rash. I was so itchy and I felt bumps. Told me I'm fine. Well I have a rash from head to toe including in my ears. My face swelled up so much my Dad said he would not recognize me. They kept insisting it was the Morphine. No it's not, I've had morphine. Do I have 'complete idiot' written across my forehead? So dr wouldn't let me have any more pain control b/c it's just gas! Their concern was get the swelling down. Then I could leave. ( understandable yes but why can't we control pain too). I take the tiniest dose and not even regularly. 1 mg morphine at a time. Give me a break.

I'll check back on here later. On Benadryl and can't keep eyes open. Anyone have sludge and experience pain? What happened to you? My Mom had the same thing and was in severe pain, vomiting, etc. had emergency surgery. No gall stones. I guess their ER dr should be fired. He knows nothing. I'm so fed up being ignored and declined proper care. What did I ever do? Guess I'll see my own dr later. At least I know I'm not crazy any more ( no thanks to my surgeon). Have to go lie down. Eyes still swollen half shut. I need rest. No sleep all night doesn't help.

Thanks for letting me vent. Google agrees with myself and the ER dr too. Ok not the most dependable sources for some sites but everyone is wrong except my surgeon. Oh yeah, after returning my call 3 days after I'd be calling he said my pain was not surgery related. Go to my GP. Today all of a sudden it's surgical related. Hmmmmm?!?!

Debra
Posted 3/22/2014 6:26 PM (GMT -8)
Hi Debra,

I'm not at all surprised that you have ended up in the hospital, unfortunately. The pain you've been experiencing is far from the norm.

Your surgeon is unbelievable. I don't blame you for being livid.

You can vent here anytime. I just hope that they get to the bottom of what's going on with you. On top of all that you definitely didn't need an allergic reaction! Good grief!

Please be sure to keep us posted!
I hope you'll get feeling better very soon!

Hang in there!
Denise
Posted 3/22/2014 6:59 PM (GMT -8)
Hello,

Been sleeping all afternoon b/c of Benadryl. Only taking 25 mg at a time and I'm out. Asked them to treat me with steroids at hospital b/c of such bad swelling and rash. Resident said nope. Well I just woke 20 mins ago and the swelling around my eyes worse. Can barely see out my right eye. Wish I could catch a break. I have 1 tablet of Prednisone 50mg I could take. I'm anaphylactic to bees and got stung last summer. Have an epipen that I'm suppose to take along with the Prenisone and 50 mg Benadryl and call an ambulance. Think I'll take 50 mg Benadryl before going to bed for the night.

No food today and only 1 small juice at hospital. Pain controlled much more. Just had 1/4 cup yoghurt and small small mug plain chicken broth. Slight increase in pain. Denise do you know anything about sludge in gallbladder? Says fasting and rapid weight loss can lead to this sludge. I've done both of these. Funny how again surgeon said it sounded like Pancreatitis or Biliary Duct Disease and now, with the same symptoms, he says that's not it. Hope you're having a great weekend.

Debra

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