PPI Rebound Question - please help!

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tk44
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   Posted 3/28/2014 10:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello. I have GERD and I recently stopped using a PPI I have been on for the last few months as I don't want to be on it for the rest of my life. Planning to try alternate treatments.

It's been about 10 days now since I stopped and I have severe heartburn pretty much all day long, much worse than before I started the PPIs.

I trying to figure out if this is rebound and I can expect it to ease off in a couple of weeks, or if my underlying GERD is now so bad that I have permanent heartburn.

Can anyone who stopped PPIs and successfully went through the rebound tell me what it was like and how the heartburn was? Was the heartburn constant or just after eating? How long did it take to get over it?

I should mention my GERD was diagnosed as being caused by hiatal hernia and seems not so related to diet.

Many thanks.

WJF
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   Posted 3/30/2014 1:53 AM (GMT -6)   
tk44 said...
Hello. I have GERD and I recently stopped using a PPI I have been on for the last few months as I don't want to be on it for the rest of my life. Planning to try alternate treatments.

It's been about 10 days now since I stopped and I have severe heartburn pretty much all day long, much worse than before I started the PPIs.

I trying to figure out if this is rebound and I can expect it to ease off in a couple of weeks, or if my underlying GERD is now so bad that I have permanent heartburn.

Can anyone who stopped PPIs and successfully went through the rebound tell me what it was like and how the heartburn was? Was the heartburn constant or just after eating? How long did it take to get over it?

I should mention my GERD was diagnosed as being caused by hiatal hernia and seems not so related to diet.

Many thanks.


It does sound like a rebound to me. I have been through a rebound. The heartburn wasn't all day long, it happened before and after meals. How long to get over it? 3 months.

How big is your hiatal hernia? You shouldn't go off the PPI if it's big because no alternative treatment can close the opening caused by hernia. If the hernia is caused by overweight, perhaps losing weight can reverse it. Here are a few tips for you if you plan to go off anyway.

1. Make sure you have been following lifestyle modifications like GERD diet, raising height of bed, proper eating habit etc, and you respond well.

2. Tapering off, do not quit cold-turkey. 2PPI / day -> 1PPI / day for 2 weeks -> H2 blocker for 2 weeks. Use antacid on demand. if you have severe heartburn, go back to the original regimen.

3. Use a natural agent that protects your esophagus, like manuka honey or slippery elms.

tk44
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   Posted 3/30/2014 7:57 AM (GMT -6)   
WJF, thanks for the reply. My hernia is small apparently and my gastroenterologist said he was fine with my coming off the PPIs, so hopefully this is just a rebound and I can deal with the underlying hernia and gerd once this all day heartburn has gone.

I'm actually a thin person and the two hospitals I went to for this both told me they don't know cause of my hernia / GERD because I'm not overweight. I personally feel it's because I have quite bad posture especially when sitting as I'm tall and thin. Tried various diets like fast track etc but didn't make much difference.

Can I ask you how you are doing now? Are you still off PPIs and what is / was your condition that you took them in the first place?

Thanks again.

WJF
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   Posted 3/30/2014 10:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Then the hernia is not the cause. Medical journals say <2cm hernia should not matter. Usually if not hernia, GERD is caused by some metabolic reason. LES is not contracting tight or relaxes too often.

If you have all-day heartburn, you need alternative pills like Zantac (H2 blocker), and antacid, to help you avoid getting into esophagitis (inflammation to esophagus) which is bad.

I am doing fine now. My GERD is mostly under control without taking pill. I have heartburn about once or twice a week only. I have to constantly watch what I eat though. I have daily heartburn when I need to take PPI.

The best diet is the one that suits you. Start taking note of what sorts of food will trigger a flare-up. Usually it's oily food, food that irritate stomach such as spices, food that is hard to digest such as brown rice.

CAGU
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   Posted 4/2/2014 4:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I went thru acid rebound.. not fun. Basically the medication blocks the acid. Then when you stop the medication your stomach no longer knows how much acid to produce, so it over produces. You might not notice it the first day you quit the medicine but usually in one to five days the acid rebound will kick in.

It can take 4 weeks or longer just to adjust to a lower dose of the medication before the acid rebound stops. While going thru acid rebound, it is best to follow the paleo diet, since other food can make the rebound worse.

You can experience acid rebound with both PPI"s and H2 blockers. Its just not as bad with the H2 blockers.

tk44
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   Posted 4/7/2014 4:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the replies. Much appreciated.

I have been off PPIs now for about 3 weeks and the rebound seems as strong as ever. I'm using an H2 blocker at night and tums during the day. I can feel a burning sensation in throughout my stomach most of the day (not heartburn which I have quite badly at the moment) which I assume is the excess acid.

One benefit of a rebound I discovered is it really allows you to see what helps your reflux. I found keeping good posture and using a standing desk for work helps a lot.

CAGU
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   Posted 4/7/2014 2:31 PM (GMT -6)   
The paleo diet is best when going through acid rebound. Also, you want to sleep with chest and head elevated. Make sure to sleep on the left side at night. There is a big difference when you sleep on left side due to how the stomach is shaped. It makes it more difficult for food and acid to come back thru the lower esophageal sphincter. Sleeping on your right side will only aggravate the symptoms.

CAGU
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   Posted 4/7/2014 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Forgot to mention about Paleo diet.. Paleo works great except stay away from the fruits that are high in aicd: berries, oranges, etc.. and I would stick with water to drink
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