Candida/Fungal overgrowth - how to combat?

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Andy1986
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   Posted 4/28/2014 4:16 AM (GMT -6)   
I read some research that said that 63% of people that were tested with 'unexplained' gastrointestinal symptoms have overgrowth of fungus or LIBO.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/804620_1

I have no idea if this is whats causing my problems, but at the moment I am willing to try just about anything. Unfortunately most of the things cited to combat fungal overgrowth are a big no no for my gastritis, they are either fatty diets, or taking acidic supplements.

Is there anything I can try which won't make my symptoms worse?

DOGGBONES
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   Posted 4/28/2014 5:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Manuka honey and aloe vera can help with gastritis and have anti-bacterial properties.

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 5/5/2014 10:55 AM (GMT -6)   
try a low FODMAP diet
The Low FODMAP Diet
(FODMAP=Fermentable Oligo-Di-Monosaccharides and Polyols)
FODMAPs are carbohydrates (sugars) that are found in foods. Not all carbohydrates
are considered FODMAPs.
The FODMAPs in the diet are:
 Fructose (fruits, honey, high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), etc)
 Lactose (dairy)
 Fructans (wheat, onion, garlic, etc)(fructans are also known as inulin)
 Galactans (beans, lentils, legumes such as soy, etc)
 Polyols (sweeteners containing sorbitol, mannitol, xylitol, maltitol, stone fruits
such as avocado, apricots, cherries, nectarines, peaches, plums, etc)
FODMAPs are osmotic (means they pull water into the intestinal tract), may not be
digested or absorbed well and could be fermented upon by bacteria in the intestinal
tract when eaten in excess.
Symptoms of gas, bloating, cramping and/or diarrhea may occur in those who could be
sensitive to the effects of FODMAPs. A low FODMAP diet may help reduce symptoms,
which will limit foods high in fructose, lactose, fructans, galactans and polyols.
The low FODMAP diet is often used in those with irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). The
diet also has potential use in those with similar symptoms arising from other digestive
disorders such as inflammatory bowel disease.
This diet will also limit fiber as some high fiber foods have also high amounts of
FODMAPs. (Fiber is a component of complex carbohydrates that the body cannot
digest, found in plant based foods such as beans, fruits, vegetables, whole grains, etc)
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Low FODMAP Food Choices
Food Group Foods to Eat Foods to Limit
Meats,
Poultry Fish,
Eggs
beef, chicken, canned tuna, eggs,
egg whites, fish, lamb, pork, shellfish,
turkey, cold cuts
foods made with high FODMAP fruit
sauces or with HFCS
Dairy lactose free dairy, small amounts of:
cream cheese, half and half, hard
cheeses (cheddar, colby, parmesan,
swiss), mozzarella, sherbet
buttermilk, chocolate, cottage
cheese, ice cream, creamy/cheesy
sauces, milk (from cow, sheep or
goat), sweetened condensed milk,
evaporated milk, soft cheeses (brie,
ricotta), sour cream, whipped
cream, yogurt
Meat, Non-
Dairy
Alternatives
almond milk, rice milk, rice milk ice
cream, nuts, nut butters, seeds
coconut milk, coconut cream,
beans, black eyed peas, hummus,
lentils, pistachios, soy products
Grains wheat free grains/wheat free flours
(gluten free grains are wheat free):
bagels, breads, hot/cold cereals (corn
flakes, cheerios, cream of rice, grits,
oats, etc), crackers, noodles, pastas,
quinoa, pancakes, pretzels, rice,
tapioca, tortillas, waffles
chicory root, inulin, grains with
HFCS or made from wheat (terms
for wheat: einkorn, emmer, kamut,
spelt), wheat flours (terms for wheat
flour: bromated, durum, enriched,
farina, graham, semolina, white
flours), flour tortillas, rye
Fruits bananas, berries, cantaloupe,
grapes, grapefruit, honeydew, kiwi,
kumquat, lemon, lime, mandarin,
orange, passion fruit, pineapple,
rhubarb, tangerine
avocado, apples, applesauce,
apricots, dates, canned fruit,
cherries, dried fruits, figs, guava,
lychee, mango, nectarines, pears,
papaya, peaches, plums, prunes,
persimmon, watermelon
Vegetables bamboo shoots, bell peppers, bok
choy, cucumbers, carrots, celery,
corn, eggplant, lettuce, leafy greens
pumpkin, potatoes, squash, yams,
(butternut, winter), tomatoes, zucchini
artichokes, asparagus, beets, leeks,
broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage,
cauliflower, fennel, green beans,
mushrooms, okra, snow peas,
summer squash
Desserts any made with allowed foods any with HFCS or made with foods
to limit
Beverages low FODMAP fruit/vegetable juices
(limit to ½ cup at a time), coffee, tea
any with HFCS¸ high FODMAP
fruit/vegetable juices, fortified wines
(sherry, port)
Seasonings,
Condiments
most spices and herbs, homemade
broth, butter, chives, flaxseed, garlic
flavored oil, garlic powder, olives,
margarine, mayonnaise, onion
powder, olive oil, pepper, salt, sugar,
maple syrup without HFCS, mustard,
low FODMAP salad dressings, soy
sauce, marinara sauce (small
amounts), vinegar, balsamic vinegar
HFCS, agave, chutneys, coconut,
garlic, honey, jams, jellies,
molasses, onions, pickle, relish,
high FODMAP fruit/vegetable
sauces, salad dressings made with
high FODMAPs, artificial
sweeteners: sorbitol, mannitol,
isomalt, xylitol (cough drops, gums,
mints)
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Tips for a low FODMAP diet:
 Follow the diet for 6 weeks. After this, add high FODMAP foods one at a time
back into the diet in small amounts to identify foods that could be "triggers" to
your symptoms. Limit foods that trigger your symptoms.
 Read food labels. Avoid foods made with high FODMAPs such as high
FODMAP fruits, HFCS, honey, inulin, wheat, soy, etc. However, a food could be
an overall low FODMAP food if a high FODMAP food listed as the last ingredient.
 Buy gluten free grains as they are wheat free. However, you do not need to
follow a 100% gluten free diet as the focus is on FODMAPs, not gluten. Look for
gluten free grains made with low FODMAPs, such as potato, quinoa, rice or corn.
Avoid gluten free grains made with high FODMAPs.
 Limit serving sizes for low FODMAP fruits/vegetables and high fiber/low
FODMAP foods such as quinoa to a ½ cup per meal (½ cup=size of a tennis ball)
if you have symptoms after eating these foods. The symptoms could be related
to eating large amounts of low FODMAPs or fiber all at once.
Low FODMAP Meals and Snack Ideas
1. gluten free waffle with walnuts, blueberries, maple syrup without HFCS
2. eggs scrambled with spinach, bell peppers and cheddar cheese
3. oatmeal topped with sliced banana, almonds and brown sugar
4. fruit smoothie blended with lactose free vanilla yogurt and strawberries
5. rice pasta with chicken, tomatoes, spinach topped with pesto sauce
6. chicken salad mixed with chicken, lettuce, bell peppers, cucumbers, tomatoes,
GERD Moderator; Diagnosed GERD, possible IBS; Gluten free since 2012; low lactose since 2012

Hayleybw2
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   Posted 5/6/2014 7:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Andy, quick question. Are you on PPI's? My gastro wanted me to get off them because Candida overgrowth can be a side effect of being on PPI's because there is not enough acid to kill them.

Erica thanks for that detailed food list!

Andy1986
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   Posted 5/6/2014 7:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes I'm on PPIs but the problem is my stomach can't tolerate much acid. Even on them I have to take other ant acids to stop the burning in my stomach. Last time I came off PPI's I was in absolute agony, just doubled over on my bed with stomach pain.

I bought some Candex which is enzymes that eat fungus and been taking them at night. Can't say I've noticed much difference though

Hayleybw2
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Total Posts : 77
   Posted 5/6/2014 7:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Andy1986 said...
Yes I'm on PPIs but the problem is my stomach can't tolerate much acid. Even on them I have to take other ant acids to stop the burning in my stomach. Last time I came off PPI's I was in absolute agony, just doubled over on my bed with stomach pain.


I'm sorry Andy :(
I hope the recommendations from Erica and doggbones can help you!

Have you ever tried aloe vera? I find some relief drinking an ounce or 2 of this a few times a day. Not sure if it would help you but worth mentioning. I use this:
http://www.lilyofthedesert.com/product/aloe-herbal-stomach-formula/

Sunshine99
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   Posted 5/8/2014 11:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Andy - If you stop taking ppis without weaning, you will have a problem. You need to do it slowly. Yes. You may feel more uncomfortable at first, but eventually you will get better.

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 5/8/2014 12:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree, weening slowly is a must. I tried cold turkey and it did not work out. I then weened slowly over a period of months and now I am on Pepcid AC which is an H2 Blocker.
GERD Moderator; Diagnosed GERD, possible IBS; Gluten free since 2012; low lactose since 2012
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