Possible to caure mild chronic gastritis without PPI?

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James_a
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   Posted 7/15/2014 9:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi all

well my second endoscopy biopsy results confirmed what i thought has happened. last time i performed endoscopy they told me biopsy shows no inflammation and so i came off the ppi straight away and the rebound was so horrid that it flared up my gastritis even though doctors said its impossible. Doctors were adamant it was just visceral hypersensitivity which i never agreed was true. The problem is that i can't tolerate ppi anymore they make me ill and i have tried them all nearly, the side effects are horrid.

I have Been diagnosed with mild chronic gastritis and have now had to stop my nexium 20mg x2 for 2days now and still waiting for the rebound acid which has not started. I can't take ppi that is out and Zantac reeks havoc with my gall bladder and so do ppi in general. Since stopping ppi i feel terrible, my stomach has so much pain.

my question is has anymore cured their gastritis naturally?

i plan to take sucralfate tablets and gaviscon its my only hope really as ppi meds are out.

anyone have any tips or success stories?

Alcie
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   Posted 7/16/2014 7:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Of course stopping PPIs causes rebound!

Nexium 20 mg is the OTC dose, which is half of the prescription dose. Taking it twice a day isn't likely to be helpful either -in my non-doctor experience. I would try 40 mg once a day for a while to see if that works.

The other thing about PPIs is that they have to be taken properly - without food, first thing in the morning, and then you must eat half an hour to 45 minutes later. There are many posts about this. It takes 45 minutes for medicines that have to be metabolized to become effective. Then you have to turn on the acid pumps by eating so the medicine can work on them to turn them off.

The only other PPI that worked for me was Aciphex.

If those, taken properly don't work, then I would undergo the lovely testing for surgery - IF a weak lower esophageal sphincter is the problem.


about the "hypersensitivity:" Your doctor may have an idea.
I was able to get my reflux events stopped by finding my food triggers. I had a weak sphincter, so I did have to keep my stomach non-acid, but the heaving, regurgitating events which I call refluxing stopped only after I found out certain foods were causing them.

My allergist had me keep a "food journal," a notebook in which I recorded dates, times, foods, drinks, medicines, and any reactions, especially within a half hour to two hours of eating. When I got my list I googled them with the keywords "food allergies" and found my list and the key ingredient, which in my individual case happened to be sulfites.

Keeping a journal is at least free and effective in finding triggers. I don't try to follow any special diet. I don't have a reflux problem with spicy foods or any of the so-called GERD foods.

There are many, many threads on this subject. You can put some words in the search box at the top of the page and read for days.

James_a
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   Posted 7/17/2014 5:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Alcie

thank you for the reply. Unfortunately i cannot tolerate ppi anymore, they give me side effects not on the list the doctors prescribe to. They actually rake havoc with my nerves and gallbladder. The side effects after few weeks are beyond horrid, so much so that i stopped them cold turkey and prefer to deal with my gastritis normally. When you take medication than causes the very problem it tries to fix then that is a huge problem. The ppi were damaging my nerves, so much so that i could not sit or stand anymore, sine stopping them, i can sit again and stand, for 7 months i put up with this hell, it was so bad that i had to be taken to my hospital appointments in stretcher in ambulance. Just by dropping this crape ppi, i many not have a well stomach but being able to sit and stand is more important to me.

the second endoscopy proved their visceral hypersensitivity nonsense completely wrong. It never had such a problem but what happened was that i had huge acid rebound that gave me gastritis again but this time much worser than before. Something they kept saying not possible, but its possible.

I am now dealing with my gastritis naturally with just sucralfate and gaviscon. I feel like hell at the moment, its now 4 days of ppi and its tough, my gastritis has flared back up but i am now stable. The nausea is horrid nut i think its caused by the sucralfate as well as gastritis. 5min after taking my nausea goes from tolerable to hellish.

I am just frustrated with doctors and consultants that are so stupid, if they listened to me i would of never been here. I would seriously advise everyone to try and deal with gastritis naturally or worst with Zantac. PPi are not good drugs and certainly not for me.

thanks for your help, much appreciated.

i will update this thread about my progress dealing with this hell naturally.

Post Edited (James_a) : 7/17/2014 5:03:42 AM (GMT-6)


Alcie
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   Posted 7/17/2014 4:10 PM (GMT -6)   
James,

Sorry you get bad reactions from PPIs. I was hoping if you took them right it might make a difference. You may stuck with Tums and such. I tried Sucralfate, but it didn't do anything. Hopefully it will at least keep you from getting ulcers.

OK, still try keeping a food journal. Visceral hypersensitivity, maybe not exactly the way they are thinking of it, may be a real thing to investigate. Something is causing the gastritis, possibly something you are eating or a medicine. I once caught sensitivity I'd never experienced before, just in my mouth to some nuts that were in a cake. I meant to spit it out but reflexively swallowed and got the complete allergic reaction. My throat and stomach definitely know when I've eaten sulfites - sodas, gelatin, maple syrup, brown sugar, corn starch, pork ...

Then see if you can get a prescription for one of the benzodiazipines or calcium channel blockers or anticholinergic drugs. Spend some time with our friend Google and the Search Box at the top of the page.

Andy1986
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   Posted 7/19/2014 5:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I dont envy you having gastritis and no ppis

I presume you already know about gaviscon and tums.
It might be worth talking to the doc about hypersensitivity. I was put on amitriptyline for it after weeks of constant pain despite being on ppis and it has made a huge difference. Also ive been taking pepzin gi and it seems to help.

Dietwise stay away from fat, anything thats got a coarse texture when chewed, and no raw veg! I found out the hard way that some veggies are very hard to digest and will cause pain. Orange veg is the best if you need to have something, be very careful of anyhing green.
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