Plicator Proccedure? Anyone?

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Strawbrrys N Cream
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   Posted 11/18/2005 8:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Has anyone here had the Plicator? Was it successful?
Any input is appreciated..
Thanks

LauraV
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   Posted 12/1/2005 9:36 PM (GMT -6)   
That's a good question. I have not, but have been reading about it recently with interest, since it seems so much less invasive than the Nissen and w/o the side effects (i.e., inability to burp or vomit).

Let me know if you find out more on this one.

Laura

vinucci
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   Posted 11/22/2006 8:07 PM (GMT -6)   
I had the plicator on july 12, 2006. My gerd turn into cronic LPR and now i am confused. I have a lump in my throat all the time, plus if i eat acidic food i will get heartburn, so, i believe this procedure sucks. I don't know what to do next. Doctors are shrugging their shoulders. This is frustrating.

DANIE
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   Posted 11/22/2006 9:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Go alkaline all the way. Believe me it will help you immensely!!! Read my postings, you really have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Good luck.

imalukatic
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   Posted 11/23/2006 1:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I have to agree with Danie. I've been doing the alkaline diet for about 3 weeks now and can't believe the enormous positive difference it's made in my symptoms. I've felt normal the last couple of days for the first time since mid August...and that's saying alot. I experienced some painful heartburn, but mainly the annoying/worrying tight/burning/gaggy/lumpy throat symptom. Not to mention the frequent incredible stomach upset and nausea whether I had eaten or not. This morning for the first time I woke up without that acid taste in my mouth...and I was lying on my back! The alkaline diet works...do try it. Get yourself a pH test kit and check your urine daily to watch the results as you improve. My pH is now in the normal zone.

DANIE
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   Posted 11/23/2006 1:50 PM (GMT -6)   
imalukatic,
I am so happy you have been helped by eating alkaline!   Keep at it, you will get even better.
 

sillylilly
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   Posted 11/24/2006 10:38 AM (GMT -6)   

DAnie,

My first thought:

Why are you asking about the plicator procedure if you have healed yourself with the alkaline diet?


sillylilly
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   Posted 11/24/2006 10:40 AM (GMT -6)   

Sorry Danie....I thought you were the one asking about the Plicator but I was wrong.  I guess I'm a little sensitive because the diet thing hasn't worked for me.  I guess I should give it a longer trial period.

really silly


imalukatic
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   Posted 11/24/2006 12:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Danie. I plan on making an alkaline diet a permanent part of my lifestyle. I don't ever want to feel sick like I have been again! I also wanted to thank you for some of your other dietary suggestions of using millet and quinoa. I just couldn't get enough to eat, but those items have helped tremendously. I'm feeling stronger and do believe I'm putting on some weight, too. Your contibutions here are priceless and much needed. Thank you again.
 
Sillylilly, I estimate it took about 2-3 weeks before my pH started rising for the better. I'm also using pH Tablets I get from my TCM that I believe helped accelerate the process. Do give the diet time, and see if you can buy a pH supplement to try. If you can't find any at a health food store, I'm sure most alternative clinics would be happy to sell you whatever they have. I'd definitely recommend following Danie's dietary suggestions. It really works. I hope you can find the relief you need soon.

sillylilly
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   Posted 11/24/2006 6:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Are you totally off the meds? I really do want to give it a try but for now I'm trying to heal my esophagus first. I even have alot of burned spots on my tongue. Does anyone else have this?

imalukatic
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   Posted 11/25/2006 8:53 PM (GMT -6)   
I never went on the meds. I only modified my diet and used alternative therapies and supplements to heal myself with and it's worked wonders. You'll have to be patient. Even tho I'm feeling so much better now, I do still feel the sensation of "burn damage" in my throat from all the past acid. Like anything else it's going to take time to heal completely...and can't heal as long as that acid keeps coming up like it does. Like my TCM said...it took your body a long time to get as sick as it is...expect it to take as long to fully recover. I mentioned in another post a while back that my reflux problem is secondary to Leaky Gut Syndrome I was diagnosed with. She figures it'll take at least 6 months for my gut and stomach to normalize in function again. It's only been 3 months now, and altho I'm feeling alot better these days...I know I have a ways to go yet. But at least I am getting better now and that's what my main focus is now. I'm slowly but surely getting control of my health and life back.

sillylilly
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   Posted 11/26/2006 8:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Imalukatic,

So you really did have acid that was coming up into your throat. Your symptoms do sound like mine....what is a leaky gut...it doesn't sound good.
I guess I'm trying to get a picture of your symptoms and see if they mirror mine. I'm getting acid into my throat everyday if I don't take the meds and now they don't seem to be working as well as they did. If acid is coming up then this tells me that my stomach valve or LES muscle is weak and is allowing acid to pass into the esophagus. I just don't understand how an alkaline diet can change that. If I wasn't taking any meds, I would be producing acid even on an alkaline diet, so wouldn't the acid still come up.

It really is encouraging to hear that you are doing so well. I think I'm going to have to try it and tough it out...I hope you're there for mental support. Thanks, silly

imalukatic
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   Posted 11/26/2006 12:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Silllylilly, I sure did have acid coming up into my throat. I swear sometimes it even made my lips feels like they were burning. Some days my throat was so scorched and sensitive that even touching my neck would make me choke and gag.
 
You're right, Leaky Gut isn't good. Fortunately tho it's not considered a disease, but is a malfuction of the bowels that can be caused by many things. Mine was a combination of poor diet due to prolonged stress. Some days I felt so sick I couldn't eat and wasn't sleeping at night for days on end. Eventually it caught up to me in the form of Leaky Gut. The good news is it can be reversed by diet, and I'm doing very well now compared to 3 months ago. I seriously thought I was dying because I'd never felt so sick before in my life. Leaky Gut btw, is when the inner intestinal walls perforate, allowing toxic debris to enter the blood stream. It's quite debilitating and can cause alot of other health problems as well. Acid reflux is one of the "side effects". Personally I don't think it matters how you get acid reflux, the symptoms and damage are the same. Which is why our symptoms do sound alike...they are.
 
Have you tried an alkaline diet yet? If not, I would strongly encourage you to. It does make a big difference. If our body's pH is too acidic...you'll get sick...in one way or another. I can't explain it, but since my pH has normalized, my acidic stomach has really calmed down. Please give it a try. Go to a drugstore and get yourself pH test strips and check your urine daily to see what's going on. Trust me, if I can do it and it works for me...it can and will for you, too. Do this for yourself and be well.
 
Of course I, and many others here will be here to support you. Hang in there. You can make yourself well again.
 
 

Lonibel
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   Posted 11/26/2006 7:46 PM (GMT -6)   

Danie,

How do you flavor the millet or quinoa?  I did get the puffed millet cereal, and it tasted stale/tasteless at first, but the flavor kind of grew on me.

Lonibel


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   Posted 11/26/2006 7:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Imalukatic,

How long have you had GERD symptoms?

Lonibel

sillylilly
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   Posted 11/26/2006 10:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I cook the quinoa in either chicken or vegetable broth, only a good one with no msg and low sodium...it gives it a good flavor.  I just bought the puffed millet but I would try it with berries or bananas to flavor it...I'm going to try it tomorrow. 

imalukatic
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   Posted 11/27/2006 11:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Lonibel, my symptoms started in mid August, but in retrospect I realize it had been coming on for months prior to that. I'm not a belcher and have never had problems with reflux or heartburn. The year started out stressful and wasn't letting up. I remember saying to my husband back in the Spring that I had been belching up...even after just drinking a glass of water. It occurred to me then that it was out of the ordinary for me, but had no clue what was brewing inside me and thought nothing of it.
 
You can cook the millet and quinoa just like you would rice. Flavor it up to your liking. I've been using mine as a dessert and sweetening it with Stevia, cinnamon and using almond milk to moisten it with. Not bad. Oh and I slice up fruit into it, too. I have on occasion added some quinoa to my veggie soup, which helps make it more filling. I find the puffed millet tasteless, too, but I flavor it just like I do the cooked millet or quinoa. I've actually been putting on weight since I added them to my diet, so that's a good thing.

suzisuzi
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   Posted 3/29/2007 10:11 PM (GMT -6)   
HI there - I just caught up with the post - I'm wondering if anyone knows about reflux that isn't accompanied by an acidic feeling.  How worried should I be?

gorkemoyman
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   Posted 5/2/2008 2:01 AM (GMT -6)   
I've been suffering from GERD for years and i was wondering if anybody tells me what the alkaline diet is???

sillylilly
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   Posted 5/2/2008 12:28 PM (GMT -6)   

Gorke,

Go to http://home.bluegrass.net/~jclark/alkaline_foods.htm.

You will find the most extensive list of acid/alkaline foods that I've found on the net.

The idea behind eating alkaline foods is that they don't produce acid in your stomach.  For instance, a lemon is full of citric acid but it is on the alkaline side because when it reaches your stomach acid  it becomes alkaline thereby neutralizing the acid somewhat. 

Tomatoes are on the alkaline side but if I eat tomatoe sauce I experience severe heartburn. So, again each of us is different and we have trigger foods and someone else may be able to eat tomatoe sauce.  It's all trial and error.  I tried the all alkaline diet for a while and it didn't work for me because my Gerd is caused by a weak LES junction which is going to allow whatever acid is in your stomach and even gastric juices to reflux at times. 

good luck


lakemaps
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   Posted 10/29/2008 5:02 PM (GMT -6)   
My daughter has been diagnosed with GERD but she does not have heart burn or any
of the symptoms associated with GERD other than a chronic cough. Her cough is so bad she vomits.

I saw an article in Good Housekeeping talking about the Plicator procedure and how
it helped a patient with her chronic cough, they performed the Plicator procedure
on her and her coughing went away. She didn't have any of the symptoms that
usually go with GERD either. I wondered if is a permanent solution or if the symptoms returns. Has anyone else experienced the cough with GERD?

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   Posted 11/1/2008 11:44 AM (GMT -6)   

lakemaps,

Welcome to HealingWell and I have researched and found this one article.  I scanned it but I am neither for or against the info in the article, it is just fyi.

I am not a professional but I am willing to help you and support you.

http://www.gastro.org/wmspage.cfm?parm1=2825

Just click on link.

AGain a warm welcome

Kitt


 

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