Post-Nissen Fundoplication surgery - did I eat too much?

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WendyMax
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   Posted 5/12/2018 6:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, love this forum, hoping someone can help me.

I had lapro surgery last Monday, 5/7, and only had ice chips, water and a little chicken broth the first two days. The pain was more tolerable and I was able to eat a few spoonfuls of scrambled eggs on Wednesday so I came home.

Only had liquids, little bit of scrambled eggs, and a little bit of tapioca since then but after reading the diet I should follow last night, today I had an egg and some toast with PB, crackers with light cream cheese, eggs noodles with margarine, sherbet, rice krispies with lactaid milk and more sherbet throughout the day. My stomach bloats right up after I eat, I have tons and tons of gas, and a couple of fast trips to the bathroom.

Is this normal after you start adding food or did I eat too much today? It makes sense to go back to liquids tomorrow but if this is normal I will keep adding the food so I don’t go backwards in my recovery.

Thank you so much!!!

aero1
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   Posted 5/12/2018 7:31 PM (GMT -6)   
be very carful here, you could have learned, a very painful lesson. after my surgery, i was kept liquid, for a good 2 weeks, when i was advanced to soft, it came with little instruction. so not realizing, how far from ok, anyone is at this point. i had some soup, and some tuna, and a little guac. not even close to how much i could eat before. 20 min later, i was on the floor, it was then i realized vomiting, was not an option. 6 agonizing hours latter, it passed, and all was right, with the world again. go slow, introduce, old foods a little at a time. your system has to reset, and that will take, some time. some foods will work, and others will take a few tries. even quite a few tries, in some cases. but do not overeat. stay hydrated. you are at the beginning. heal, then seek carefully your new normal. [ gas and bloating will be with you for sometime]

WendyMax
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   Posted 5/12/2018 7:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you aero1, I appreciate the response. I thought I would be on liquids for a couple of weeks and was surprised when I read the paper last night that they gave me at discharge with all of the foods listed. Guess I wanted it to be true but you’re right, I learned a painful lesson.

SharonZ
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   Posted 5/14/2018 7:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Wow, that's a very aggressive diet that you received from your surgeon! I used one - UPMC Post-Nissen diet, you can google it. It was very helpful and easy to follow.

WendyMax
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   Posted 5/14/2018 7:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks SharonZ, I will check it out. I was surprised too and it even has chopped chicken on it which I am definitely not touching for a while. I cut back yesterday to Lipton noodle soup, clear protein drink, etc. and was better BUT shortly after I had a scoop of watermelon sherbet the bloating, gurgles, and gas started. I will stay away from sherbet today and see if it still happens.

It seems to be trial and error as to what bothers me and what doesn’t. One day at a time I guess.

Thanks again

1039smooth
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   Posted 5/14/2018 8:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Wendy,

I had some issues swallowing in the beginning, so I didn't have a lot of options other than liquids for a while. If I never see a strawberry Ensure again, it won't be too soon! lol. Blasted dysphagia.

My best wishes for your continued healing.

smooth
"Worrying is like a rocking chair. It gives you something to do, but it doesn't get you anywhere." - Van Wilder, Van Wilder

SharonZ
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   Posted 5/14/2018 9:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Wendy:

Some people have issues (initially), with dairy products.

Sharon

WendyMax
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   Posted 5/14/2018 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
LOL smooth, I will feel the same about Lipton noodle soup 😳

Thanks Sharon, I haven’t had ice cream yet and am using Lactaid with cereal for now.

I appreciate the help very much, this is harder than I thought trying to figure out what to eat.

wvgal57
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   Posted 5/16/2018 6:59 AM (GMT -6)   
creamed soups ... cream of wheat ... pudding ... jello
mashed potatoes
pancake smothered in syrup


those are the staples I used for 3 weeks or so

I am now eating gravy with a bit of sausage, some toast smothered in butter, some fried eggs
Yesterday I ate a piece of pollack but I peeled all the breading off

Stick with stuff easy to slide down and use a baby spoon

WendyMax
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   Posted 5/16/2018 9:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you wvgal57. I am still having problems and just don’t know what to eat. I will try your suggestions

I have been having popsicles, sherbet, chicken broth, and also a piece of toast with margarine or peanut butter but it feels like it gets stuck so it may skip bread for a while. With these minor foods I still get gas, pain, gurgles, and lots of trip to the bathrooms. I have been trying to figure out what is causing this but I can’t figure it out.

Getting frustrated but I guess it’s only been a little over a week since surgery so I need to keep pacing myself. Thanks for the help, Wendy

SharonZ
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   Posted 5/16/2018 11:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Wendy:

Your symptoms are all part of the healing process. When you have bread, make sure it is very well toasted and remember to chew your food until it's almost a liquid consistency. You are right that it still may be a little soon for bread. If something sticks, you might want to skip it and try it again in a week or two. You are so early into the recovery process, don't expect too much too soon.

Sharon

WendyMax
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   Posted 5/16/2018 11:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Sharon, I toasted the bread but since it’s sweet bread it is still soft and chewy. Common sense tells me not to eat it but I did. I am not chewing food to that consistency and figured since it went down it was ok to keep chewing fast and not chewing enough. Maybe that’s part of the problem with my intestines gurgling, pain, gas, etc. I didn’t put 2 and 2 together, I will get better as I learn.

Doctors really need to educate patients better. When you are discharged you get papers saying you can now eat the stuff on it, and they don’t say you MAY be able to eat the stuff and not to eat it the day you leave the hospital. This forum has been so very helpful.

thanks again

wvgal57
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   Posted 5/16/2018 12:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Also I did not eat ANYTHING with sugar in it ... only now am I starting to eat some sugar products

I looked for Sugar Free

The first 3 days I had diarhea and frequent trips to the bathrooms but it passed

I am one month out today and while I feel I could eat almost anything at this point I will not even attempt it lol

Yesterday evening I had a Burrito from Taco Bell minus the soft bread burrito itself it had lots of cheese and lettuce and today I feel some roaring around in my gut so that tells me that most likely the lettuce was the culprit

SharonZ
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   Posted 5/16/2018 2:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Early into recovery, you get the gurgling noise from pretty much anything you eat. I was fortunate that my surgeon pretty much discussed every scenario that I could have during recovery. Even when you start to feel better, it's possible to experience small setbacks along the way.

Sharon

WendyMax
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   Posted 5/16/2018 3:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks again SharonZ and wvgal57, I really appreciate the help

You’re lucky Sharon that your doctor explained things to you, thankfully I have this forum or I would be so lost.

I was Thinking that it was the sugar from the sherbet that was really killing me, because when I would have a couple scoops of sherbet that’s when I was dying in pain, gurgling and Spending a lot of time in my new home, the bathroom. No sherbet today but some gurgles, nothing major. I guess I just couldn’t understand why sugar would bother me after the surgery, I’m one of those people that needs to understand something.

Sorry about the taco, but I will learn from your mistakes. I was wondering if I should try to make myself a little Romaine lettuce salad with some dressing to try to get something healthy in me, I think I will wait on that one now!

wvgal57
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   Posted 5/22/2018 3:06 PM (GMT -6)   
I had strawberries on Saturday morning and I am still paying for it ... I have mostly gone back to liquidified diet now in order to give my gut a rest The strawberries (only 4 cut up in small pieces) on a pancake but they REALLY hurt me

I found the lettuce on the Burrito hurt me and it was shredded really fine

WendyMax
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   Posted 5/22/2018 5:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh no wvgal57, poor thing. Wow you’re still having pains from strawberries on Saturday? That’s a long time isn’t it? I haven’t tried lettuce yet and will stay away from that.

I am back to mainly liquids too, but can eat butternut squash and a scrambled egg without any issues. I have tried a couple of things but they hurt so I can’t eat them yet I guess. I didn’t think it would be this hard.

Like an idiot I figured I was all better this morning, plus the crescent rolls in the fridge were calling me, so I baked them and sucked one down and then it got stuck and I was freaking thinking I was heading to the hospital but then remembered something I read on a post here to sip warm water until it pushes it down. I won’t eat bread again for a while. Lesson leaned 😩

SharonZ
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   Posted 5/23/2018 7:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Wendy:

I really didn't start to feel better until about six months post-surgery. I felt like my "new" self at around a year. Be careful with advancing your diet too quickly.

Sharon

WendyMax
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   Posted 5/23/2018 2:36 PM (GMT -6)   
OMG Sharon, that’s discouraging but thank you for telling me. I am getting frustrated because it’s been 2 weeks since surgery and every time that I try something new it doesn’t work and I’m back to a protein drink, tapioca, butternut squash and scrambled eggs. I will try to be patient. Thanks again 😊

SharonZ
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   Posted 5/24/2018 6:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Wendy:

I didn't want to discourage you, and everyone's recovery is different. I just wanted to give you an idea why you are feeling the way you are. Be patient, and it does get better. My surgery was a complete success and I have no reflux. I ate a lot of oatmeal and cream of wheat. I really liked the italian ice cups and popsicles.

Sharon

WendyMax
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   Posted 5/24/2018 2:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Sharon. Haven’t tried oatmeal or cream of wheat but will. I appreciate the help
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