Acid Rebound from Zantac & Tums?? How did I get myself in this mess? Thanks DOC!

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thedwp
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   Posted 2/10/2006 9:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been reading a lot in this forum about coming off of Nexium/PPI's. And it's been very enlightening as I've been trying do figure out how I even got here. Back before Christmas of 05' I woke up with horrible indigestion. It was so bad I started throwing everything at it. Tums, Zantac, Gas-ex, Maalox etc...I did this for several weeks. Truth is it never got totally better but I finally stopped taking all that over the counter stuff and all of a sudden I started getting horrible Nausea. This brought on a whole new set of worries for me. I didn't know at the time that acid could cause nausea...bad. So I finally went to an GI guy and he gave me Nexium. So I popped them for around 5 days and started feeling better, so again not knowing I just quit cold turkey...and bamm! the nausea came back with a vengeance. I've been so upset and worried as to why I keep getting nausea but my doctor never told me how long to take the nexium and what would happen if I just stopped. This has been a huge educational experience for me. Even though I have no symptoms of burning in my chest, I'm currently trying to stay on the nexium until my nausea goes away and I can wean my self off the right way.

My question is has anyone else experience acid rebound from over the counter meds? Does any of this make sense?
"Where There's Life There's Hope"

my dad


Nikib5
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   Posted 2/11/2006 7:40 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi,

I haven't personally had rebound from over-the-counter meds. All I take is Tums because the others really didn't help me. It sounds logical, however, because you are essentially trying to do the same thing that prescription drugs are doing: stop or neutralize the acid. Then once you stop taking them, your system goes back to its old ways.

I'm finding that the only thing that is helping me right now is diet and some digestive enzymes like papaya. I don't know how I'll be a few weeks from now though.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.  I hope you can get rid of the nausea. I've had it too and it's terrible.

~Niki


CathyA
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   Posted 2/11/2006 8:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Thedwp,
I believe that rebound is possible with any drug. I actually get rebound headaches from tylenol.....when I use it too often. If we take anything that tries to stop something that our bodies are doing, then it's likely to affect us even more for awhile, when we stop the medicine.
I don't think things like Tums, mylanta, etc. cause a rebound acid production.....but they have been buffering you for awhile, and when you stop, then you feel the full impact of the acid.
Are you taking any other meds that might have the side-effect of causing more acid production? Are you trying to avoid drinks and food that cause you problems? Are you trying not to lean over much, or put pressure on your upper GI/chest area?
If you are going to quit a drug that seems to help you alot (like Nexium), then you need to prepare yourself first........by avoiding all food, drink, and activities that would worsen your GERD.
How's your diet? Mention has been made here that cutting back on your carbs can help reduce acid production alot, so you might try that.
I'm like you......I might not have any heartburn.....but I'm nauseated all the time. I have learned to recognize that nausea as reflux, even without heartburn.
I don't see any reason to not use Tums, Rolaids, mylanta, etc., occasionally, but I wouldn't rely on them all the time.
I knew a girl who popped something like Tums all the time, and it messed up her system so bad, that she almost needed dialysis........so nobody should consume too many of them.
Also......avoid laying down within a few hours of eating.
Do you feel that your doctor is giving more to work with in controlling this, than just medication? Try doing internet searches on finding non-medication answers. There's alot of possibilities out there.
Sorry about your nausea........I can sure relate to it. Simplify your diet, and back off eating if you can, for awhile, just to get your nausea under control, and try to figure out what you can and cannot eat.
I know one of the things that seems to affect me the most is water !

thedwp
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   Posted 2/11/2006 11:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the thoughts...I have tried to adjust my diet some, but mainly I just don't eat as much cause I just don;'t feel like it. But when I do eat I try to make better choices. CathyA when you say you've learrned to recognize the nausea as reflux, is this something you figured out on your own or did your doc tell you that? I suppose the nausea is what bothers me the most because I don't have any real abdominal pain. I do take Zofran for the nausea but only when I have to and it helps. For a while eating actually made me feel better it's been going on so long now I'm starting to get really discouraged.

thanks again
"Where There's Life There's Hope"

my dad


CathyA
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   Posted 2/11/2006 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi thedwp,
I figured it out on my own. I don't know what's with doctors these days, but they don't seem to know much. The old-fashioned ones seem to have alot more sense.
The only other times I've had nausea was from going through menopause, and also from taking vitamins.....especially the B's. I could take the vitamins in the morning, and not get nauseated until the evening! So I sort of expect nausea when I take vitamins too.
Just be sure you're checked out for other things. Have you had a good physical recently?

thedwp
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   Posted 2/11/2006 7:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I did forget to mention...in the last 2 weeks I've had extensive blood work, chest x-ray and a complete abdominal ultrasound...all normal, so I figure if anything major was going on it would have shown up somewhere in all those tests...I'm supposed to have a endoscope (??) test but honestly, I don't think they will find anything so I'm considering not even doing it. I feel like I got myself into this mess by taking sooo many tums/zantac and Maalox early on that now I've got to be patient and let things heal. I am going to stay on the nexium for a few weeks to see if it kicks in and calms things down and then just bite the bullet and get off of them.

I've got to get my life back!
"Where There's Life There's Hope"

my dad


thedwp
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   Posted 2/11/2006 7:19 PM (GMT -6)   
oh, and one more thing... I did have one doc tell me the nausea was stress induced.
"Where There's Life There's Hope"

my dad


CathyA
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   Posted 2/11/2006 8:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm glad all your tests were normal.
The nausea was stress induced??? That's a good one. Those doctors can be so silly!
Sometimes I do think PPIs are beneficial. I think they helped me for quite awhile. Perhaps they help us through a time when our acid-secretion is just out of control.........for some other reason. They definitely do help in some cases. But I just wish doctors were more holistic in their thinking. If they were, maybe they could teach people how to get their GERD under control, without taking meds. But I think some of us get in such bad shape with our stomachs, that we benefit from a short-term use of PPIs, just to let the stomach heal. But unfortunately, docs seem to think they are for long-term use.
I think my need for PPIs was caused from being on HRT......which I probably shouldn't have been on either!
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