Thank you Danie!! my 2 year + nightmare is OVER!!

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RandyDandy
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Date Joined Jan 2007
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   Posted 1/20/2007 3:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Danie, words cannot say how much you have done for my life. You don't know me but because of you I just got my life back again this week and I was almost at the end of the rope.
 
I had heartburn for at least 5 years before I even knew what it was. I just striked it up to pains that come and go. Around Feb of 2005 I started getting a cough that just felt different than a regular cough. It kind of scared me but I ignored it. By July of 2005 I started to have voice problems. Just regular talking became a strain on me and I started to get scared at this point. By Sep. 2005 I started having breathing problems and my right side of my neck seemed to constantly be stiff on a daily basis. I also experienced tingling sensations to the right side of my face as well as ear aches but mostly in the right ear. I was in a mess because I didn't have no health insurance so I had to figure this out for myself.
 
Well from Oct 2005, I quit smoking but gained about 25 lbs because of it and I the throat pain when I would swallow and the constant feeling of my voice not being like it used to be added to my frustrations.
 
I originally started taking otc asthma medication thinking it was asthma. I then thought it was the flu and took cough medicine. Still no relief. I switched to taking garlic and echinachea and nothing worked. I didn't want to take prescription medication because I have no health insurance and money was tight to begin with.
 
Well I finally figured out around Nov/Dec of 2005 that most likely I was suffering from LPR or Gerd or a combination of the two. I tried the Apple Cider Vinegar and immediately my pains that I had for 5 years went away for the most part. I had them daily at it's worst and I guess I just accepted it at that time. The ACV really does work and I take it to this day. At the time in Nov/Dec of 2005 I was also taking honey as people said this would heal the esophogus. For me that never happened. So at this time my heart pains went away due to the vinegar which was good but the throat swallowing and the voice was a constant problem for me plus I still had the stiff neck and the sometimes tingling sensation on the right side of my head.
 
I went on taking the ACV and not much of anything else for the past year hoping my problems would go away if I lost some weight I gained when I quit smoking. I lost 12 of the 25 I gained but still nothing worked.
 
Now fast forward to Jan 7th of this year. I see Danie's post about DGL licorice and sleeping on the LEFT side of the bed. Well that struck a cord with me because I ALWAYS slept on the right side for the past 5 years because I would always have these sharp pains if I slept on the left side. I never knew how important those two little ideas of Danie would come into play.
 
Well on Monday Jan 8th of this year, I took a trip to the health food store and was looking to buy some Orange Peel Extract but it was too expensive for me. I decided to buy the DGL Licorice because I was desperate but it was really an after thought at the time.
 
Well I kept a diary the minute I started this new attack at healing my throat. Two of the things Danie said to do I wasn't doing (DGL before meals and at bedtime and sleeping ONLY on left side).
 
On Tuesday Jan 9, I started taking 2 tables spoons of ACV in a 4 oz of water 3 times a day PLUS I took two of the DGL tablets, plus I forced myself to sleep on the left side. Well I did this for a week and nothing different to report but on the 8th day on Wed Jan 17th I noticed a subtle difference. I have it in my diary as "slightly optimistic something is happening. Well yesterday on Thursday it was even a little better and I was happier than hell and today I was so happy I have to come here to sign up and thank Danie for the post on DGL. Today after almost 2 years of hell I am turning my neck freely, I am able to talk much better than in a long long time and  I am singing a little again which I enjoyed doing.
 
I know this is a long post but I am telling you the only thing I have been doing differently in two years is I started taking the DGL and sleeping on the left side. I personally feel the DGL is what did it. Something so simple yet it seems to be healing my throat very quickly now. I just hope the improvement continues but it's definately enough for me to report it.
 
For all of you that complain that DGL doesn't work, this is only a guess but I am guessing you are not taking enought of it or you are giving up too quickly because of the taste. Yes, let's face it, to me it's tastes like crap but it's a small price to pay for 5 minutes of crappy taste if it will get your life back. My advice is like Danie, try it, grin and bear it and hang in there. I am convinced I am on my road back to having a normal voice and normal swallowing again mainly because of this DGL Licorice. Danie, I am indebted to you for your helpfulness. Had I not read your post and not bought the DGL, who knows how many years I would of suffered.
 
Thank you!!
 
Randy

DANIE
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Date Joined Aug 2006
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   Posted 1/20/2007 7:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Randy,
Soooooo happy for you, that's why I keep posting about my recovery so that maybe someone like you will not give up! I'm a persistant kind of person, when I know I'm right, I just keep saying it!!!!!
I'm also convinced that the DGL along with small things like sleeping on the left side did it for me.
Keep using it and then start tapering back. I don't know why people complain about using DGL licorice, is it better to take drugs for years and not give a natural supplement a chance to work!
Wishing you continued very good health.
Danie

friendlygal
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   Posted 1/20/2007 2:12 PM (GMT -6)   

Wow, RandyDandy

That is so good to hear a success story.  How do you take the apple cider vinegar, is it diluted with water?  And how much of it?


RandyDandy
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Date Joined Jan 2007
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   Posted 1/20/2007 8:09 PM (GMT -6)   

Thanks for the kind words Danie. Yes, I will continue to take the DGL and taper off it if it gets totally back to normal. Before I took the DGL, I would say my throat was functioning at 60% as far as how it used to feel prior to getting this. It's now 11 days on the DGL and today is another good day. I would estimate my throat is at 85% how it used to be. Remember I have had voice problems for 2 plus years now so I can imagine it's going to take some time for this to heal 100% but definately a marked improvement.

 I think it's fair to say everyone knows their bodys and how they feel. Well on day 8 I noticed the change for the better in my throat both with the voice and with the swallowing. Today I am singing again after two years of not doing so. The throat still isn't 100% but I am feeling much better now. I honestly was almost at the point of giving up all hope of getting better. I was thinking I had cancer or some big tumor in my throat the DGL seems to be doing the trick. Many of these other weird symptoms I had also seem to be going away within the past couple days.

I do take the DGL faithfully like Danie said to do regardless of taste. If I recall I didn't necessarily like the taste of Apple Cider Vinegar but I took it regardless. It's amazing what you will swallow when you are feeling bad. I just took 3 DGL today and I am slowly getting used to them and the taste. Right now I suck on them like a lozenge but once you bite into them is when you get that bitter taste for 30 seconds or so. It's not bad really and you get used to it. I would suggest like Danie does is for people to give this a chance.


RandyDandy
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Date Joined Jan 2007
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   Posted 1/20/2007 8:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Friendlygal, in regards to my ACV, let me tell you I am not expert. I didn't know what the heck I was doing when I first took the ACV. I first tried it in Nov of 2005. At that time I was taking a tablespoon and swallowing it straight. It would burn going down no doubt. I would swallow a whole bunch of water after that. Eventually I got smart and just added a tablespoon of it in about 4 ounces of water and there was less burn.
 
For the past year of 2006 I would take one tablespoon in the morning when I got up and one at night. I can say without a doubt this caused most of those chest pains to go away completely. Occasionally I would get an "attack" but I would just take another tablespoon of ACV and it would go away.
 
Prior to taking the DGL, I was feeling really bad. My ears were hurting bad and that's when I decided that enough was enough and I started to really want to battle this. As far as the ACV, I increased it starting Jan 9th to the present. I took 2 tablespoon of ACV and mixed it with regular tap water from the sink about half a glass. After I drank it I rinsed my mouth out a couple time and brushed my teeth. I did the 2 tablespoon deal 3 times in a day.(Morning, mid day and night) just space it out as evenly as you can.
 
I only eat once a day and that's when I take my two DGL tables and I also take one after dinner. When I go to bed I also take 2 tablets and I "force" myself to sleep as much as I can on the LEFT SIDE now. Other than that I do exercise daily and am 190 and need to lose 12 more lbs but things are looking much better now. I hope you can feel better too friendly gal.

ttwarrior1
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Date Joined Sep 2006
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   Posted 1/21/2007 1:35 AM (GMT -6)   
not sure why but my dgl licorice is capsules, and its the dgl form, someone said it has to be chewable but 3 experts i talked to today said it didnt unless i had throat trouble and i dont

sillylilly
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   Posted 1/21/2007 3:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Randy,
Wow, it is so good to hear about your recovery...it gives all of us hope. I'm curious about what type of GERD do you have. Did you mainly have throat pain or did you have the chest burning pain also which would be traditional heartburn symptoms. I also have had the earaches that you mention.

DANIE
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   Posted 1/21/2007 10:57 PM (GMT -6)   
I think one of the important things that Randy did was to keep a diary, especially of food. Some of you may see a pattern of a food that really bothers you. Then you should definitely eliminate it.

RandyDandy
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   Posted 1/21/2007 11:55 PM (GMT -6)   
sillylilly said...
Randy,
Wow, it is so good to hear about your recovery...it gives all of us hope. I'm curious about what type of GERD do you have. Did you mainly have throat pain or did you have the chest burning pain also which would be traditional heartburn symptoms. I also have had the earaches that you mention.
Sillylilly, from around 1999 to 2005, I only had the sharp pains near my lower left rib cage. They would come and go so I just figured it was stress or something. They would last 10 to 20 minutes or sometimes up to an hour but they would always go away and I never knew when they would strike. I had one really bad one where I couldn't even move or barely breath and I thought it was a heart attack. I was by myself when it happened and I sat immobile for over two hours praying literally but only taking very small breaths because I felt if I took a big breath I would die right there on the spot. The pain was unbelievable. I never had one as bad as that one ever again. It was because of these pains on the left side is why I slept on the right side only for the past 7 years until last week thanks to Danie's advice.
 
Around Feb of 2005 was when I started to have this constant cough or throat clearing and it went on for a couple months. After that I started to notice my voice change and eventually my voice became raspy and my throat seemed to hurt all the time. It never went away once my voice went bad and stayed a constant. Everytime I talked it was like I was forcing myself to talk and it hurt. This voice and throat went on for two years.
 
It got progressively worse and eventually I noticed numbness only on the right side of my head only but not the left.
My face just felt weird and I would sometimes have a major stiff neck which would also come and go at times. Just a month ago I started having this ear ache in my right ear off and on and even the left ear started as well but not as much. This is when I knew I had to do something really drastic or try something different because the ACV alone was not getting it done.
 
What I think I had was the obvious Gerd symptoms but the silent type because I would never ever cough up acid or anything like that. I think these pains which went on for 5 years or more eventually took it's toll on my throat and started affecting my vocal cords in the last two years so that's why I say I figure I had Gerd/LPR. The pains were eliminated immediately with the ACV but the throat and voice continued for two years until last week when I took the DGL Licorice and tried to consciously force myself (as much as possible) to sleep only on the left side. I think most of my pains on the right side only(neck, face and ear were because I was constantly sleeping on the right side which I found out from Danie was a no no.
 
Again today and the previous two days I notice a major improvement in my voice and my swallowing. It just feels so good to be able to sing again. Please note I am not 100% yet and I am not cured but yes I am feeling much much better. Also what Danie says is true. Keeping a diary helps. Keep track of weight, what you eat, your moods that day, symptoms etc. Anything to find a pattern both good and bad and use the information to help you get better. I will be here updating because I am not stupid enough to think the my journey is over. I know how this gerd can come and go. I do hope I continue to improve. Having this really sucks so I feel for people that have this too. 
 
 I still would like to know what caused this to begin with but I did smoke, I did drink diet Pepsi, I have taken Advil for a couple months straight for a tooth absess I had, I was a chocoholic. Now every single one of those bad things I have eliminated 100% now. If anyone finds what causes Gerd let me know.

sillylilly
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Date Joined Oct 2006
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   Posted 1/22/2007 4:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Randy,
You are amazing to go so many years suffering without getting medical help. Maybe that will be your salvation because the modern meds can really cause more problems in the long run...if the natural meds work, stick with it and we all pray that you will recover completely.

I really believe that GERD is rampant because of our modern lifestyles which include too much stress, leading to overuse of drugs, smoking, alcohol and high carb diets. For me, I was addicted to prescription diet pills in my twenties. For the next 30 years I was drug free except for coffee and occasional glass of wine. It was when the doc put me on hormone replacement therapy that many lasting problems occured. I found out that estrogen can weaken the LES sphincter muscle. I quit the hormones when I started having problems with heartburn symptoms. I, too, had the pains in my lower left ribcage and upper stomach area for about two years. I also took the DGL for about 4 months and started feeling better. Then one day at dinner I had a glasse of wine and noticed some heartburn. Then I noticed some throat pressure after drinking green tea. A couple of days later, I ate a coffee nip candy which is like drinking a cup of coffee and I noticed this stream of acid shoot up into my esophagus and ever since I have had severe GERD. So, for me, I'm sure I did some damage back in my twenties with the diet pills, then the estrogen and then alcohol and caffeine. Our poor stomachs and digestive systems are overworked with too many stimulating meds and drugs, sodas and alcohol. AT least that's my opinion.

DANIE
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   Posted 1/22/2007 4:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Sillynilly,
Caffeine and alcohol are definitely a no no for you. Hope you will recover soon.
Danie

Syrupgirl
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   Posted 7/17/2012 8:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Danie,

I am too on Nexium for 2 months now and prior Prilosec for 6 months.
Symptoms are: Headaches, itchy throat, phlegm, acid reflux ( I think), pressure and spasms in chest, pain in behind ribcage sort of burning feeling, jaw pain,
Stomach is not too bad, no pains, lower intestines and intestines are very bloated usually when I wake up or after I eat.
Stool is very yellow, usually soft or hard
Medications was taking: Nexium, Benefibre, Acidophilus/Bifidus, Aloe Vera Juice
Diagnosis: Nothing, normal, did a Xray Barium, Ultrasound of abdomen, and Endoscopy, NOTHING Showed up! I did however have 2 treatments for H.PYlori Bacteria :(, I hope it's gone, I still have to try and test for it.
I think these PPI's were ruining my health and digestive system

I am trying the DGL 7 days and going Cold Turkey off of Nexium for good. I'll let you know how it goes.
I was wondering did you go off of your PPI right away and took the DGL???
Did you take Digestive Enzymes?
DId you also have bloating, gas and gastritis?
I am worried about trying the Apple Cider Vinegar, as Apples usually cause me heartburn!

Please reply and let me know what you think. Thank you so much.

stkitt
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   Posted 7/18/2012 11:26 AM (GMT -6)   
This thread is 5 years old and therefore I am going to lock it down.  Please feel free starting a new thread re your questions, comments and sharing.
 
Kindly,
Kitt
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