Interesting article on GERD drugs by a medical doctor!!

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DANIE
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   Posted 2/11/2007 7:02 PM (GMT -6)   

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   Posted 2/11/2007 7:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Danie, I know this isn't related to your post.  But I wanted to say that I went to look for organic vitamin C today.  Because most v-c's have too much ascorbic acid in them.  Is Dr. Weil the doctor you keep boasting about?  Because Weil's vitamin C has a lot of acid in it as well.  At least the ones I saw at Whole Foods today...
I saw another vitamin C that had organic ingredients and not that much asorbic acid in it.  I wanted to buy it.  But it has peppermint in it and I know that we can't have peppermint!  So I wasn't sure what to buy.  Maybe Ester-C, the one without orange?  What do you suggest?
 
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   Posted 2/11/2007 7:39 PM (GMT -6)   
FG,

I really wouldn't take vitamin c while you have GERD, it's ascorbic acid, what is the point of that. Do you feel that you need extra c because you aren't eating citrus?Just take a good multi vitamin for now.
Make sure you take acidophilus, that's a very good supplement.

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   Posted 2/11/2007 7:58 PM (GMT -6)   

Danie, I had thought that my body needed vitamin C. That's why I wanted to take it.  The organic kind, such as one that my chiropractor showed me, does not have asorbic acid in it, at least not as a main ingredient.  It also doesn't have peppermint but the only reason that I decided not to take the one that he suggested is because it has shellfish in it and I kind of keep kosher (I can't eat shellfish).

I know that you had written a post saying that chiropractors don't know about nutrition (because he asked me not to eat grain for 14 days and only eat fruits at night, for a liver cleanse with no sugar)...But, he is very supportive of natural healing and believes in the alkaline diet.  So  you would actually probably like him!


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   Posted 2/11/2007 10:52 PM (GMT -6)   

Thanks, Danie, that was a really informative article and gave me alot to talk to my GI about.

Sillylilly


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   Posted 2/12/2007 11:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Check out some great reviews on Prilosec:

http://www.epinions.com/Prilosec_OTC_Acid_Reducer_Delayed-Release_Tablets/display_~reviews

DANIE
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   Posted 2/12/2007 10:36 PM (GMT -6)   
HeartBurner,

What is the point of pointing out the benefits of Prilosec. Everyone on this board is taking or has taken many of the drugs for GERD.

The point is to get off the drugs as soon as possible or whenever one can!

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   Posted 2/12/2007 11:15 PM (GMT -6)   
DANIE said...
HeartBurner,

What is the point of pointing out the benefits of Prilosec. Everyone on this board is taking or has taken many of the drugs for GERD.

The point is to get off the drugs as soon as possible or whenever one can!
LOL. That's what I was thinking when I read that too Danie. Unbelievable. Since when is there a benefit to being on a drug your entire life.

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   Posted 2/12/2007 11:22 PM (GMT -6)   
DANIE said...
HeartBurner,

What is the point of pointing out the benefits of Prilosec. Everyone on this board is taking or has taken many of the drugs for GERD.

The point is to get off the drugs as soon as possible or whenever one can!
Someone from the IBS forum wrote that someone he knew has barret's espoghagus and taking the medications saved his/her life.  It kept that person from getting cancer.
 
I, too, want to get off this medication.  But, in some cases maybe it is very necessary to take them.

DANIE
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   Posted 2/13/2007 7:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Friendlygal,
Everyone has choices to make, definitely talking to doctors is key in case there are underlying issues.
All I know is that my gastroenterologist told me (and I had only just met him) "you want to get off these drugs quickly".

friendlygal
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   Posted 2/13/2007 7:36 AM (GMT -6)   

Danie, i didn't realize that your GI told you to get off the drugs.  Wow, I've never heard that from any GI i've been to...

I haven't taken the drugs in the last 3 days because they constipate me.


DANIE
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   Posted 2/13/2007 7:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Friendlygal,

Yes, my GI said exactly that! Imagine!

Make sure you eat alot of cooked vegetables only. If you eat cooked vegetables (spinach, kale,collard greens, carrots etc), tofu, avocados and other alkaline foods you should not be constipated.
Try using them for about a week and let us know how you are.
You can also use Benefiber, that's the most natural and easy to take (not gritty, mixes in water) fiber supplement.
It's been working really well for my friend who was always constipated.

friendlygal
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   Posted 2/13/2007 7:45 PM (GMT -6)   
DANIE said...
Friendlygal,

Yes, my GI said exactly that! Imagine!

Make sure you eat alot of cooked vegetables only. If you eat cooked vegetables (spinach, kale,collard greens, carrots etc), tofu, avocados and other alkaline foods you should not be constipated.
Try using them for about a week and let us know how you are.
You can also use Benefiber, that's the most natural and easy to take (not gritty, mixes in water) fiber supplement.
It's been working really well for my friend who was always constipated.
Danie, thanks for the suggestion.  The problem is that I may have gastroparesis which has caused my reflux (delayed emptying of the stomach).  In that case, I am supposed to eat a diet low in fiber since fiber doesn't get digested.  I have tried Benefiber and always eat vegetables and it hasn't worked.  Maybe it's because I have gastroparesis.  But I will find out.  I will do a stomach emptying test.  I will let you know the results of that.  Thanks.
I also have not been exercising because I get so tired from having trouble sleeping as a result of having to go to the bathroom all the time!  So I will get back to exercising and this should decrease my constipation somewhat.
 
Here is info. from a site about gastroparesis (the part about how I need to eat foods low in fiber and stay away from fiber supplements): "A diet low in fiber is suggested. Fiber delays gastric emptying. In addition, fiber may bind together and cause a blockage of the stomach, called a bezoar in some patients. Examples of high fiber foods that should be avoided include oranges, berries, green beans, potato peels, apples, sauerkraut, and Brussels sprouts. Fiber supplements for treatment of constipation should also be discontinued if possible."

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   Posted 2/13/2007 7:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Are avocados and tofu (the really soft kind) ok for you?  Lots of protein in them.
 
You really don't have to exercise, try just walking more and more each day.  That is the best exercise.

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   Posted 2/13/2007 8:21 PM (GMT -6)   

I am new to this so I'll find out if avocados and tofu are ok for me.  i may just have a delayed process without it being gastroparesis (without it being a nerve issue).

yeah, i need to walk more.  that is what i've been wanting to do.  i literally had no sleep in the last few days due to making no bowel for such a long time that is why it was difficult to do much.  but i have planned to walk all day from now on, no matter how tired i feel.


DANIE
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   Posted 2/13/2007 10:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Think about it, food has to travel thru the intestines in a downward spiral. If you just sit around it may be forced to just sit in there. If you walk you are moving your whole system. It makes sense.
Drink alot of water too to keep everything moist and moving!!! You will feel better once you do all this, you'll see.

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   Posted 2/14/2007 4:13 AM (GMT -6)   

Danie, I drink a ton of water already.  I will try to exercise more too though.  I am NEVER sleeping at all though due to never being able to go to the bathroom (the constipation and the gastroparesis/elimination problem are not one in the same but I have them both).  It is very tough to exercise when you are a zombie.

I think I have an emergency situation and may need to get an enema to clean everything out!!  Do you know about whether or not enemas are healthy?  Is an enema the same as colon cleansing?  I may go on the IBS forum to ask these kind of questions...


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   Posted 2/14/2007 12:23 PM (GMT -6)   
FriendlyGal, did you ever try the Apple Cider Vingegar for your bowels. I don't know what it was about it but when I started taking it two years ago, I had a major increase in my bowel movements.

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   Posted 2/14/2007 1:53 PM (GMT -6)   
RandyDandy, no I haven't taken apple cider vinegar for this condition. I didn't even realize that it could help with the bowels. I tried it a couple of times to try to clear the reflux. But it just tasted gross and I didn't see the point in it. When you tried it for bowel movements did you take it with water?

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   Posted 2/14/2007 3:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Friendlygal, yes give the ACV a try. I never thought in my wildest dreams I would be swallowing vinegar either but my throat and chest hurt so bad at times that I was willing to do anything. Frankly, ACV is not that bad of a drink now that I am used to it. I actually enjoy it taking it first thing in the morning. I take 2 tablespoons of it in a glass of water 3 times a day when it was at it's worst. Now I take it once in the morning and once at night.

Also yes Friendlygal, mix it with water. Do not take a straight (like I did at first) as it is very strong. Take two tablespoons and mix it with a glass of water. For you since you don't like the taste, dilute the ACV in a full normal size glass of water and drink it down. Hold your breath if you don't like it and when you are done, take another glass of just water and also drink it and brush your teeth after. You will feel refreshed after taking this believe me.

If you can't drink this Friendlygal than you are not trying hard enough. This takes a total of 30 seconds probably tops so it sure beats not sleeping for 3 days. There's some things that you might have to "work" at in order to get better. Danie has said this many times. Getting used to a "taste" that you might not like(ex: DGL or ACV) is one of those things that you are going to have to do in order to get better. There's no way around it. You just have to condition your mind to think the opposite. Tell your mind that ACV is the best tasting drink you ever had. Do whatever it takes but don't give up just because you don't like the taste.

I guarantee you if you take this ACV three times a day you will be "going" in no time. To me ACV was kind of like a natural liquid plumber. It just seemed to go right thru me and worked on clearing out alot of garbage. Give it a shot. At worst you'll feel better. There is no negatives to taking ACV as far as I am concerned. It's is natures wonder cure for many ailments supposedly. I have been taking it daily for two plus years and I have no complaints. Good luck and let us all know when or if you have a bowel movement. Sounds funny but I am serious.

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   Posted 2/14/2007 4:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow, it might help me with bowel movement...that is very interesting...I actually like the taste of DGL, though I don't like the taste of ACV..yes, if it can help me it is worth a shot...I will let you know what happens and if I get diagnosed with gastroparesis (I should find out in the next month or so if I, indeed have it)...
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