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phixgrrrl
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   Posted 11/11/2007 6:20 PM (GMT -6)   
I saw someone post that they used enzymes, Candida Rid pills, probiotics. I have also read about ACV, licorice, and marshmallow root.

I've tried the last 3 (though I quit after a month b/c I have problems w/big pills). But the first 3...how do I know if I should try these? I'm nervous to try new "meds"

TammyGrl0528
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   Posted 11/12/2007 8:40 AM (GMT -6)   
When it comes to this, I would sit down and talk to your doctor. It all depends on exactly what you have going on, and how bad it is, and such. Just ask your doctor what he thinks about the above, and see what he says.

I understand you feeling about trying new "meds" it is best to do research, and in my opinion, asking a doctor what they think of your alternative therapy ideas couldn't hurt.

You can of course get ideas from here, but a simply phone call is a good idea too.

Wishing you the best.
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phixgrrrl
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   Posted 11/12/2007 4:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks. But my current doc (whom I'm thinking of dropping) didn't bat an eye when I told him the alternatives I had been trying. I really don't think he gives a flying ****. So that's why I ask here, b/c you're the only people that listen.

TammyGrl0528
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   Posted 11/12/2007 9:53 PM (GMT -6)   
I am sorry to hear that your doctor is like that. It is unfortunate. My doctor is open to other alternatives! I am so sorry that is not the case for you.

Let me look into this a little further. Give me a day or so to see what I can figure out for you...
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phixgrrrl
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   Posted 11/12/2007 9:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you so much. I hate having no one to talk to about this, esp. my doctor.

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   Posted 11/18/2007 3:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I have found that doctors are not familiar with alternative medicine.  I have found that my herbal store  is extremely knowledgeable  abput diet and alternative medicines.  Also, you may have a good herbalist in your area who can answer several questions on medical problems. 
 
Good luck.

TammyGrl0528
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   Posted 11/18/2007 6:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey COPPER, and welcome to healingwell. You gave great advice...so yes, try to find an herbalist in your area to help you out, and see if you can get some better answers!!!

Let me know what you find out!
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HappilyWrapped
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   Posted 11/18/2007 6:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Herbs/natural supplements, whatever you want to call them, they are still a type of drug and should not be self-dosed. Nor should you take advice about natural supplements from an internet posting board. You wouldn't take a prescription drug that a stranger gave you (at least I hope not) just because you were told it would cure your ailment.

You asked how you should know if you should try certain supplements. The answer is to locate a naturopath physician in your area - they have ND after their name instead of MD and are licensed in the proper use of natural herbs and supplements. Herbs can interact badly with prescription medication and other supplements and if taken improperly, can cause trouble just like misusing a prescription medication. Yes, the local store may have knowledge about the products they sell, however, it's not the same as a licensed ND (unless the people providing advice are licensed). ND's go to medical school similar to MD's and take many of the same courses.

A licensed ND will let you know what brand of herbs you should be purchasing in your area - they may even sell their own brand. Just because something is labeled as a natural remedy on the package does not mean it was manufactured in a proper environment to keep it's potency intact and you don't know what type of preservatives are in it nor do you know where the ingredients for that supplement came from. Herbs aren't regulated by the FDA like prescriptions are, so you don't really know what you are buying when you purchase some herbal remedies.

I'm a firm believer in natural remedies and see a naturopath regularly. The supplements I take work in conjuction with my prescription medication. I urge you to follow the natural route in a safer way than you are currently attempting to do on your own.

Good luck.

phixgrrrl
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   Posted 11/22/2007 5:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you. I would see a neuropath but I make 7500/yr. Do you know how much a session costs? I have no insurance (I did, out of my own pocket, but it went up to $300/month which is inane. I swear, if they can rape you, they WILL).

HappilyWrapped
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   Posted 11/22/2007 6:49 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know where you live, but some naturopaths will provide an initial consultation for a lesser charge than a regular appointment. Some physicians charge less to individuals who pay out of pocket. It makes more sense to save up for an appointment instead of tossing your money away on herbs/supplements that you aren't sure will work or don't know what all the side effects are. I understand being on a tight budget, I've been there, too.

Good luck

Razzle
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   Posted 12/1/2007 6:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Ok this might be helpful:

1) Call a naturopath and ask if there are any naturopathic pharmacies in your area. Get the phone number.

2) Call the naturopathic pharmacy and ask about any potential for interactions between the herbs/etc. you want to try and your current prescriptions. Write down what they tell you.

3) Call your regular pharmacy where you get your meds from and ask the same thing - ask whether or not the herbs/etc. you want to take will have any interactions with your medications. Write down what you find out.

4) Call another pharmacy to get a second opinion - not all pharmacists know a whole lot about herb-drug interactions. Write this down too.

5) Get online and google the name of your medication plus the name of the herb/etc. you want to try. See what comes up if anything - sometimes you can even add "adverse" or "interaction" to your medication and herb/etc. in the search and find some interesting things. Write down what you find.

6) Call the naturopath back that you called in step 1 and ask if he/she is aware of any interactions between the medications you take and the herb/etc. you are thinking of taking. Write down this response as well.

7) Compare everything you were told. If everyone agrees there are no issues, then it is probably ok to try one dose of ONE herb/etc. and see what happens. Don't try this with more than one herb at a time. If you don't feel worse/have a negative or allergic reaction, then it is probably ok to take for a while and see if it helps any. Don't keep taking it if you feel worse from it.

As for financial ideas, call your state's Insurance Commissioner's office and ask about options for people like yourself without the ability to afford insurance. There may be a state-sponsored insurance plan you can qualify for that will cover Naturopathic treatment (or even regular MD treatment, thus giving you some additional money for other things - like an occasional appointment with a Naturopath).

Also, you might want to ask a Naturopath if there are any discount programs he is aware of for low-income people who want to have an appointment with a Naturopath. Sometimes, there are special discount programs, or even the Naturopath him/herself will offer to treat you at a reduced cost. But you don't know unless you ask.

Another thing is that I myself have found that allergic reactions and hypersensitivity reactions can create symptoms of GERD that respond to alternative ways of treating GERD - i.e., Benadryl for allergic reactions, & Vitamin B12 (very cheap supplement) + Tums for Sulfite Sensitivity reactions. So if you keep a detailed food diary for a while in which you note any changes in how you feel along with every ingredient in what you eat or drink, you may notice patterns that can lead you to experiment with dietary changes.

Also, I assume you are aware of the anti-reflux dietary guidelines (e.g., no citrus, spicy foods, caffeine, peppermint, etc., because these things can aggravate acid reflux)? If not, there are some resources at the top of the main GERD/Reflux forum here at HealingWell that may be helpful.

Good luck & take care,
-Razzle
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Meds:  Pulmicort, MaxAir, Injectable Vitamin B12, Herbs, Nutritional Supplements, Essential Oils, Homeopathy.


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   Posted 12/1/2007 6:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Razzle,
 
You really put a lot of thought and time into that for her.  That was very kind and could be a plan that could work.  It would take a little time, but time is cheap.
 
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