Acid reflux worse on an empty stomach?

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Red_34
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   Posted 12/3/2007 5:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I was wondering if anyone else had a worsening of symptoms while having an empty stomach?  I've noticed that lately I have been having increased heartburn and slight nausea before I have anything to eat.  Is that normal? Because I always assumed acid reflux got worse when eating.
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bokbok
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   Posted 12/3/2007 6:20 PM (GMT -6)   
hi there i noticed that as well other day, i had nothing to eat till 2pm in the afternoon and i had bad reflux all day but i treid not have a empty stomach as i do think it makes it worse.

Red1966
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   Posted 12/3/2007 7:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Red.

I thought I would mention my acid reflux seems to get worse if I dont eat. I lost quite a lot of weight cause I did not eat properly also I noticed wheat takes a big affect on it as well.
Hope this helps

btw sorry for having a simular name never realised there was another red. To be honest i do gaming on the computer & I am always Red been this for years, so it kinda stuck.

Thanks & hope you feel better.

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   Posted 12/3/2007 10:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey there Sherry...to answer your question...YES YES YES. I have that same thing. Infact, my acid is almost always worse on an empty stomach.
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bokbok
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   Posted 12/4/2007 5:57 AM (GMT -6)   
hi i also lost 14lbs as of watching what i eat and not eating chocolate, not drinking tea or coffee, no fatty foods its flew off me the weight, but it seemed to be worse the less i eat so i,m pigging out as of yesterday.

Red_34
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   Posted 12/4/2007 6:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Ugh! Great! Who wants to eat when they feel like they want to throw up??? But I'm glad that I'm not the only one then.

Red, LOL....I'm a gamer too :) My best friend nicknamed me Red years ago. But assuming by your name, you were born in 1966? If so, then you are Queen Red! Because I was born in 1970 so I will gladly assume the name of Princess Red! :)
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noggin
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   Posted 12/4/2007 9:46 AM (GMT -6)   
I've noticed a lot of people say they eat lots of small meals throughout the day. I'd guess it's because of this issue here and not wanting to overeat, causing excess acid production that these people eat lots of small meals. I know I can't go empty or I get some very weird and sometimes disorienting pains.

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Red_34
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   Posted 12/4/2007 12:25 PM (GMT -6)   
What constitutes as small meals?
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noggin
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   Posted 12/4/2007 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Ha! I'm not sure what constitutes a small meal, someone that does will happen along and answer I suppose. I'm not the type to do small meals.... :)

-Noggin

Red_34
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   Posted 12/4/2007 2:00 PM (GMT -6)   
:) I'm not a small meal eater either! I'm a small person but boy do I like my food lol. It's sort of tricky though because I have to take 11 pills a day with food and 5 on an empty stomach. Also trying to REMEMBER when and how to take them can be confusing. I have a pill organizer but unfortunately 9 of those pills that I have to take with food is split in 3 doses thru out the day and the same with the 5 that I have to take without food. Small meals might mess me up regarding my dosing. But I was always curious as to what defines a small meal. Is it like a regular dinner meal but smaller portions? Or is it like snacking? hmmm
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Red1966
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   Posted 12/4/2007 5:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes Red I was born December 1966 but at the moment i feel a lot older, never even heard of Gerd till I got it. My mum use to say to me dont drink diet coke like its water it will do your stomach in one day, now look at me having acid & seems no way its gonna go. Did not realise acid could effect your body in so many ways.

Small meals I would have thought a regular dinner but smaller portions, dont take me as being right thats just my thought.

Red_34
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   Posted 12/4/2007 5:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I hear you there Red! about the acid affecting you in so many different ways. I heard of GERD several years ago and my husband has it. I thought there would be no way I could have any sort of acid reflux because I never ever got heartburn and pretty much had an iron stomach. It seems the older I get, the more things fall apart!
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Red1966
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   Posted 12/5/2007 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
They say life begins at forty, I am still waiting lol. All we can do is make the most of what we have, I know its stressfull & acid is worse when getting stressed out but thats easier said than done.

I am now trying to keep an open mind & hopefully the less stress I have I may improve a little, but thats easier said than done having a 16 month boy who is into everything & a 5 months girl where he gets jealous & trys to hit her with everything he has, where would the fun be if he was good hehe.

Princess Tara
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   Posted 7/14/2009 11:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I know you posted this two years ago but it came up when I googled my situation so I registered here to reply.  Maybe others will reply as well.  I only have acid problems when my stomach is empty and my pain is only in my throat.  Long ago I had heart burn but now it just affects my throat.  I figured I messed up the nerves in my esophagus from all the heart burn I've had over the years.  Does anyone else have this problem only when the stomach is empty?  How about only feeling it in the throat?  Any explanation why this happens? 

LittlePeanut
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   Posted 7/16/2009 7:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Priness Tara:

Have you gone to see your doctor. It might not be related to heartburn at all. But in answer to your question it does seem that when your stomach is empty the symptoms feel worse. I have tried the old fashioned remedy of milk on occasion to quiet the stomach not a glass mind you but like a small shot and that seems to put out the fire. In either case consult your doc.

Marburg
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   Posted 7/16/2009 8:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

According to my GI doctor, you should never skip or delay meals. He said once your body is used to eating at specific times, the stomach starts putting out acid to digest the anticipated meal. He said if you skip or delay eating the stomach continues to pump out the acid until it gets the food. So, the longer you go without eating the more acid is created which worsens the GERD symptoms.

Marburg

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   Posted 7/16/2009 9:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Princess Tara,
Welcome to the GERD forum! You've already gotten some great responses. It's amazing how much information and help members here have. Also, it's a really active forum, so your post doesn't sit for days or weeks until you give up on ever getting a response! Everyone tries to be as helpful as possible!

I have a very reactive stomach, and had GERD severe enough to cause uncontrolled asthma. I had the Nissen surgery the end of February, and it has done what I had hoped--my asthma is great, and my lungs are the best they've been in at least 4 years.

I also have more stomach discomfort when it is empty, and my wrap also bothers me more when I have nothing in my stomach.

Red34, are you sure that the meds you're taking on the empty stomach aren't the culprits? Meds are something that really gets my stomach going. I don't know the solution to that problem, but I feel for you. I've been in a similar situation, with meds that need to be taken an hour or two before or four hours after meals, etc. What a pain! It's almost impossible.

I wish you all the best! Princess Tara, I'm glad you posted on this old thread. There are obviously lots of others who are experiencing the same problem. Be sure to continue to ask questions! You might want to start a new thread so your comments and questions are easier to fine.
Take care,
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   Posted 8/11/2012 6:18 AM (GMT -6)   
I battled acid reflux off and on for 18 years and recently was diagnosed with Barrett's Esophagus.  I think one of the culprits was taking a hair and nail vitamin that contained a high dose of biotin, I didn't realize how harsh biotin was on the stomach.
 
I think people with chronic acid reflux should have their valve repaired rather than being on PPI's for years on end.  Why take medications when there is a procedure to seal off the "lazy" valve that keeps letting acid flow into the esophagus and can cure the condition?  I swear some doctors would rather harm people than heal them.
 
I am going to see a doctor who does a procedure to remove the Barrett's and also to discuss getting my valve sealed.

NaturalHealer101
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   Posted 3/8/2018 11:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I have the same issue, with pain developing on one side of my throat when it gets bad.
I’ve done a lot of research into natural remedies and have read in a few places that contrary to commonly held assumptions, this may actually be caused by TOO LITTLE ACID in the stomach. When there is too little stomach acid, the valve to the stomach apparently relaxes which can result in some of the stomach acid entering the esophagus. It is counter-intuitive, but I have found that now, anytime I feel the pain in my throat, I drink an ounce or two of white vinegar or apple cider vinegar, and it goes away within the span of 10-15 minutes.

I’m curious if anyone has tried this remedy and if it’s worked for you?

Jennora
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   Posted 3/16/2018 9:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I, too, have this same issue. Mine is mostly in the evenings since I try not to eat anything for several hours before going to bed. I have had GERD since a teenager and am now in my mid-50's. I've been on PPI's for life. This past year, our new insurance company quit covering the medicine that I was on forever, and that medicine kept my GERD in check. I was miserable for 9 months and finally got it covered. I feared damage may have been done since I had such awful reflux without that medicine, although I tried several other meds. Had an endoscopy last week and don't know full results yet, but changes were seen. Ugh. But... back to my main question right now. How am I NOT supposed to eat in the evenings, and yet how do I prevent this heartburn from having an empty stomach?? Is this causing damage/could this be causing damage as well? I'm so afraid of what is happening inside of me and I don't even know what to do! I'm afraid to have the surgery because my doctor says it always comes undone after about 5 years, and if they try to do the procedure again, it often doesn't work. I awake with terrible breath during the night and in the mornings, and have a sugar-free lifesaver sitting on my nightstand to put in my mouth every time I get up during the night and also in the mornings. Zegerid is the med that I was on for years... and the only med that truly solved my reflux. I'm back on it now, have been for about 2 months, but it just isn't the same now. Like something changed while off of it. I do all the right things. I sleep on an incline. I eat small amounts at a time. I exercise regularly. I'm not overweight. Triggers for me are not always the typical ones... but things like potatoes, soups, coffee - yes. But I can eat spicy and chocolate and can't really tell a difference. Right now... it's just this evening/overnight heartburn. And I'm thinking it's from an empty stomach. Would I be better off to eat at night? Sorry so long... but HELP!
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