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ali_squidz
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   Posted 1/28/2011 10:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey everyone,
I am on an allergen restricted diet and adding in different items to test my reactions to them. This week is wheat. It's the first week of testing after 2 weeks of complete elimination. Before this, I had upset bowels and diarrhea constantly. 2 weeks of eliminations fixed me right back up. Now, I am doing the wheat and getting sick again with cramping, but no diarrhea yet. I am really struggling to pinpoint exactly what is causing my problems. I do have the help of a dietician however I dont see her for another few weeks. It seems there is dairy in just about everything, even though it's trace amounts. I have tried my hardest to get it completely removed from my diet but I am still sick. I was wondering what people have for symptoms of food allergies. Maybe I have wheat issues? I had premade meatballs a couple days ago that I found out had milk in them. I can't seem to get completely free. This week though I have had a sandwich with white bread at least once a day to test. Im thinking the white bread is outweighing the trace amounts of dairy I could be consuming. Last week I tried a couple pieces of cheese on rice crackers and got sick. I tried lactose free milk and seem ok with that. Next week I guess I will test dairy fully like I am the wheat.
Sorry to ramble. I feel really confused and lost and my stomach hurts bad. I have been checked for celiac disease and it came back negative. Is that the same as a wheat allergy?

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   Posted 1/28/2011 2:39 PM (GMT -7)   
A wheat allergy is different then Celiac. Here is more info about it:

www.mayoclinic.com/health/wheat-allergy/DS01002
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ali_squidz
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   Posted 1/28/2011 2:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks.
I think Im going to stop eating the wheat stuff. I will bring it up to the dietitian when I see her next. I had to leave work today because the pains were so bad. shakehead

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   Posted 1/28/2011 3:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorry you are having such a hard time with food intolerances.  I sympathize because I have major food restrictions too.
 
I hope you are keeping a log/journal of your foods, drinks and medicines.  I found this handy to go back to even a year or more later.
 
I hope you had the biopsy for celiac, as the blood test is ntoriously unreliable.
 
Don't eat two new foods the same day on your elimination diet.  If you find you have a problem with wheat, don't drink milk or eat any dairy until you go back to not eating the wheat.  It's too easy to confuse which foods are the real culprits.
 
Fortunately for us lactose intolerant people, there are now Lactaid ice cream and frozen yogurt in the ice cream sections of the larger grocery stores.  I only tolerate a couple of brands of yogurt, mainly Activia.  Some of the really nice Greek ones and others that purport to be thick, have additives, including powdered milk, which I don't tolerate.
 

ali_squidz
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   Posted 1/28/2011 6:55 PM (GMT -7)   
do you have the same sort of symptoms? gas, cramping, bloating, feeling hot, etc?
I log everything on www.sparkpeople.com and I keep a journal of symptoms for the doc as well.
I didn't have a biopsy. Would they do that on a colonoscopy while looking for crohns and colitis?
Yeah I stopped dairy or I thought I did until while trying to dig to find out why I was sick, I noticed there was milk in the meatballs. I would imagine it's such a small amount it's not an issue. I will go back to square one on the dairy. Maybe I dont have the issue with dairy and it's actually wheat. Next week I will dry the dairy. Wheat is definitely OUT OF THE PICTURE right now. I am miserable.
Silk soy yogurt is friggin delicious! Try that. Also Silk dark chocolate almond milk is AMAZING! I have been avoiding dairy for just 3 weeks now and it's really been easy with the alternatives.

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   Posted 1/29/2011 9:23 AM (GMT -7)   
I get your symptoms when consuming lactose, but also get gas, etc. from gassy vegetables. I'm OK with salad, spinach, rice, but have to watch amounts of corn and avoid beans, including soy products, and cruciferous veggies like the plague.

My situation is complicated because I am also intolerant to sulfites, allergic to sunflower seeds and maybe some nuts. I get the usual allergy symptoms from sunflower seeds - swelling in the throat, plus my usual intolerance symptoms of gastric reflux followed by tachycardia. Usually I can get the tach stopped with valsalva maneuvers or coughing, but last summer one lasted 5 hours, required a trip to the ER for adenosine heart conversion.

I feel a lot better if I avoid wheat. I am happy though, to be able to eat oatmeal and rice, including rice crackers. You have to read ingredients on rice crackers because most aren't all rice!

After you've been off dairy for a while you might try lactose-free again. I thought I couldn't have dairy, but have no trouble with the other proteins. I also tolerate some of the softer cheeses in small amounts and Activia yogurt. Good thing because I really can't have soy! Soy products generaly have sulfite. They also give me gas.
Alcie
 
 

ali_squidz
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   Posted 1/30/2011 8:00 AM (GMT -7)   
My dear! Oh I am so sorry for you. That's just miserable and scary at the same time. :-(

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   Posted 1/30/2011 11:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Do you have a place called "Whole Foods" it's a grocery store that offers up a
good selection of dairy free, wheat free and gluten free products, so try there first
for your shopping needs and you can get help from them, I love thry're blueberry pie
it uses coconut milk and is very good. They have italian ice, and lots of things with coconut
milk, maybe do a switch from milk to coconut milk, but do this gradually as coconut milk can
give you diarrehea....I would've started at elimating gluten products first...
Well wishes to you and keep us posted as to how things go.
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ali_squidz
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   Posted 1/30/2011 11:43 AM (GMT -7)   
We do have a whole foods about 20 minutes away. I was thinking of going there. It's just so overwhelming at first. I went there once for whole cloves to make pomanders. Pie would be amazingly fabulous right now. Omg... I cant even start to dream about it. hahaha!! This week coming up is testing for dairy. I am going to try it again and see what happens now that wheat is out of the picture.

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   Posted 1/30/2011 5:39 PM (GMT -7)   
You might want to try milk without lactose first. That way you could see if you have a problem with the other milk proteins. If you do, then you simply have to avoid milk. If you don't, then you can try regular milk to see if it's just the lactose.

Eliminating wheat is different from eliminating gluten. If you don't have celiac - tested by biopsy - you might get away with gluten-containing prducts, just not wheat. They should be able to test wheat with skin test, but mine was negative and I still feel better without it. I can eat other gluten foods, like oatmeal.
Alcie
 
 

ali_squidz
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   Posted 1/30/2011 5:41 PM (GMT -7)   
I will ask the dietitian about that. Right now wheat is completely out. I had lactose free ice cream and got sick. I am trying again this week though. I will try with cottage cheese and cheese, and maybe some cheerios with regular milk. Cheerios are fine by the way.

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   Posted 2/1/2011 10:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Also when your cutting back on milk you'll need to supplement for the lost Calcium and Vitamin D.
people on these types of diets will usually add supplements, keep us posted on how it's going.
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ali_squidz
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   Posted 2/1/2011 11:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Im miserable. I tried a little bit of cottage cheese yesterday and that was sort of ok. Then... I tried this am some powdered french vanillla coffee mix. BAD IDEA. Im sick big time. I will try again tomorrow one last time. Maybe a small amount of cheese? DAIRY = BAD! ugh!!
I have been drinking a glass a day of this stuff.
http://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=698927&storeId=10052&langId=-1
It's awesome! I will have to add in some supplements though I think, like you suggested.

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   Posted 2/3/2011 8:59 AM (GMT -7)   
There's so much other junk added to those creamers. I don't tolerate the added corn syrup, artificial "flavors" and "colors." But there is casein (another milk protein) in them too. You aren't really giving up milk!
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ali_squidz
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   Posted 2/3/2011 9:05 AM (GMT -7)   
What do you mean I am not really giving up milk? This was my dairy test week so I had some dairy. Confused.

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   Posted 2/3/2011 7:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorry, I thought you had given up milk too, since you have had bad reactions to some forms of dairy.
Alcie
 
 

ali_squidz
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   Posted 2/3/2011 8:16 PM (GMT -7)   
I had to make sure it was the dairy so I tried the testing this week. It didn't go well. Im done for good now.

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   Posted 2/4/2011 8:05 AM (GMT -7)   
So you had a problem even with lactose-free milk? That's really too bad.

How about trying just the whey protein of the milk? Maybe it's just lactose and casein you don't tolerate. You can get whey in a grocery store, usually along with the protein beverages like Boost. Try adding that to your coffee. At least it would be a source of protein. I have to use whey in my foods to help get enough protein. I don't tolerate gelatin or most other sources because of the way they are processed.
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ali_squidz
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   Posted 2/4/2011 8:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the tips! I was meaning to look up what whet was. I know what it is but like what its made of. Great idea. Lactose free milk seems ok so far. I will test just a straight cup of it tonight. I usually use it for cooking.

ali_squidz
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   Posted 2/4/2011 6:57 PM (GMT -7)   
I have decided to go to a gastroenterologist. I want to get checked for celiac.
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