Anybody have BP and heart rate problem with albuterol?

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Alcie
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   Posted 7/2/2011 12:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Last Monday I landed in the hospital 6 hours after taking a single puff of the albuterol inhaler Rx'd by my allergist as an emergency inhaler.  I'd had an immediate reaction which calmed down, then 5 hours later started building up blood pressure and heart rate - 140, when I had pretty bad chest pain , neck and left shoulder pain, and called my son.  I've had tachy events before, but they generally go away in a minute or two.  I did my Valsalva maneuvers, chewed up an aspirin and an Atenolol, called my PCP.  After 15 min I was worse, rate was 160, so I said, ER.
 
It takes 15 min or more for the volunteer ambulance guys to get to my house, and my son made it to ER in 16 min without even speeding - as I kept telling him I was feeling better.  (We got chewed out, but we can still get to help faster than it can get to us!)  I was able to walk in and my rate at ER was 140.  I basically got monitored and blood work  Heart converted itself after an hour - bingo! all at once, right down to 70.  They gave me a nitro, which did nothing but lower pressure more (to 100/50, rate 50) - of course that was after heart had converted itself, but the nurses hadn't noticed. Naturally, I had to stay all night and run up a walloping big bill, get lots of nasty radiation from CT and stress test. smhair
 
Next morning's doc said albuterol can cause that reaction after 6 hours.  So I guess I have nothing that helps with chest congestion.
 
I was wondering if anyone else has had such a nasty reaction.  Is it an allergy or a sensitivity?  I'd had albuterol once before at allergist's office for pulm function with no reaction.

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   Posted 7/2/2011 9:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Might had been a side effect. It always speeds up my heart rate.
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   Posted 7/9/2011 11:03 PM (GMT -6)   
It only bothers me when I take it after not taking it for a long time. Then I get shaky and my heart races. Once I get used to it, the symptoms no longer occur.

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   Posted 7/10/2011 8:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes, my son had that issue too when he was on Albuterol. His heart rate would speed up and he would get the shakes.

I'm sorry you have to endure all that though :(
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Alcie
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   Posted 7/10/2011 3:08 PM (GMT -6)   
The initial shakes and rapid heart were one thing, but 8 hours was altogether too much. Since I had a dangerously high heart rate (169) after 7 hours, and it wouldn't quit without medication, nearly needing a heart re-start, which they would have done had it remained at 145, I won't be taking albuterol again.

Now my allergist has prescribed a $100 steroid which I haven't tried, since the $45 Asmanex didn't do anything at all, and I don't even have asthma, supposedly, from last appointment when I asked. I can breathe well enough to survive, although lungs hurt, without treatment. Spiro reads 1500.

I'm still miffed that I have a breathing problem that hasn't gone away more than a month after anesthesia. I believe it was triggered by the med I asked not to have and got anyway that is a known histamine releaser that gave me 5 days of severe muscle pain. I'll start the expensive steroid inhaler tomorrow, but I'm not going to continue pay this kind of expense unless there's no alternative.

I'm not sure if I'm now being treated for an acute breathing problem or if I now have asthma.
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Razzle
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   Posted 7/16/2011 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Alcie,

You need Vitamin B12. Anesthesia interacts with and depletes Vitamin B12 from the body. Vitamin B12 is needed to form red blood cells, so depletion of B12 leads to anemia, which can cause breathing difficulties that may be mis-diagnosed as Asthma.

Also, there are often sulfites in anesthesia. Sulfite exposure can lead to chronic issues because it can overload the sulfite oxidase enzyme pathway - this is part of the methylation detox pathway in the liver. Methylation is a critically important part of metabolism - affects the ability of your body to process medications, histamines, purines, alcohols, and other metabolic byproducts, etc. A comprehensive B-Complex supplement should help if you aren't already taking one. This is in addition to the B12 supplement - most B Complex supplements to not have enough B12 in them to correct a deficiency.

Other things that may help: Magnesium is known to help breathing problems, is a natural antihistamine, and is needed by over 300 enzymes in the body. Deficiency can mimic a lot of other disorders and cause a number of symptoms, including muscle pain, breathing difficulty, etc.

Vitamin C is also a natural antihistamine, anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant (anti-aging), and helpful for those with allergies.

Nettles (leaves) - natural antihistamine, good for inflammation, high in vitamins and minerals needed by the body for a variety of health issues, helps arthritis (joint pain), etc.

Zinc - supports a healthy immune system, bones, liver detox enzymes, and needed to balance with copper to prevent copper toxicity. Due to today's excessive exposure to xenoestrogens, it is important to be getting sufficient zinc to counter-balance the effects of the xenoestrogens on copper in the body. Men need zinc for a healthy prostate (and it is my opinion that chronic zinc deficiency may contribute to BPH/prostate enlargement in older men).

Iron - most women tend to need to supplement iron at some point due to monthly cycle blood loss. Iron supports healthy blood, healthy heart, and also supports the detox enzymes in the liver. Main thing with iron is to not overdose and to not take iron supplements within 2 hours of calcium supplements due to competition for absorption in the gut.

Always consult your doctor about supplements before taking them.

I hope this helps...take care,
-Razzle

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Alcie
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   Posted 7/16/2011 8:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Razzle - you had some interesting thoughts. I did just find out I'm short on hemoglobin despite taking iron twice a week, upped it to 3x. (I'm 20+ years past menopause.) I'll get that rechecked. I hope that's what's making me feel like I have asthma.

I already take B-12 shots and pills with decent dosages. I take Mg, maybe need more. I'll ask for a level next blood test. I also take C, Zn. I was short on potassium in the hospital.

I always make a fuss about being sure everything I'm given for anesthesia has no sulfite. They do tend to give me D5W even though I ask not to have anything but saline, but a liter only has 520 mcg sulfite and my tolerance is at least 2000. Last surgery (sinuses a month ago) they gave me rocuronium which threw me into myalgia for 5 days. No sulfite, but a histamine releaser, which I asked not to be given because it's contraindicated for post-polio and fibromyalgia. That's when I started feeling like I have asthma.
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   Posted 7/17/2011 6:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Homeopathic Phosphorus may also help - it is for Asthma, pneumonia, anemia, and also helps to detox the body from anesthetics. Find some at a local health food store or online - I like abchomeopathy.com but there are other places such as vitacost.com that are also good. I'd suggest trying 30C potency Phosphorus 2 pellets under the tongue 3x/day for a week and see how you feel. It should not have any side-effects or interactions with your other meds.
-Razzle

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Joan M
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   Posted 7/17/2011 7:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Gee whiz...this is horrible. I went to the trouble of going on a pre-admission visit and the doctors gave me stuff I was allergic to after my surgery. Had to go on oxygen, sent to a local rehab dump, etc., etc.

I stay away from the medical people now. Let them get a part time job at Burger King if they need more money! They're getting nothing much from me.

p.s. I looked up advair and it is bad for your heart...I rather not pay for my heart attack, thanks anyway. don't know about albuterol.

Alcie
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   Posted 7/19/2011 7:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Razzle -
What is homeopathic phosphorus? What formulation is it? The website you mentioned just calls things by random numbers and letters and I couldn't find any real information. 30c doesn't tell me anything. It's an interesting idea because the med I was taking for pain is noted for lowering potassium and phosphorus. My potassium level was tested (fairly low) when I went in the hospital for tachycardia, but phosphorus was not tested.

My PCP told me today I may have allergic asthma. He had me take prednisone yesterday when I was having a particularly hard time breathing, and it helped. I don't want to keep taking steroids though! My allergist has me on a steroid inhaler, which works a little, but I will try an antihistamine today - told to by PCP.

Joan -
I was told to come in an hour early - same as your pre-visit. It merely meant I had to get up an hour earlier and sit at the hospital an extra hour and still not get any extra time from anesthesiologist. Next time I will fax them my lists of drug reactions and meds I refuse. I can forgive them if I get a reaction to something new, but I'm going through PTSD from them giving me 2 things I refused, one in writing, and then having a bad reaction! I'm quite upset every time I think of the next long surgery I need this year - shoulder impingement with bone spurs.

In paragraph above you can see I am also afraid of these inhalers, especially since I've already had the heart attack. I'm concerned about NSAIDS too, same reason. Trouble is, they work best on my shoulder impingement.
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   Posted 7/19/2011 10:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Alcie,
there are other inhalers out there that won't be so hard on you...Xopenex, comes in a rescue
inhaler and it's better than albuterol / proventil don't take either of those they are the same.
but ask to try xopenex inhaler...write to the hospital administration and tell them what happened
they need to know about it, They should be responsible for paying for your er visit and costs.
Also let your allergist know what happened as they prescribed this medicine you should let them know
as well as this should never happen to you again...
Benadryl can sometimes reduce allergic reactions, can you tolerate that??
Well wishes to you and I sure hope you do have any other reactions...I take a b-12 sublingual as I
couldn't tolerate the injections, had problems with the b-12 shots...vitamin D can help with
pain and I'm also taking a new supplement called "Oxycollasyn" for joint aid, I just started it and
will see how it helps, look it up it might be able to help your shoulder...do your homework on it...
many well wishes...
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Alcie
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   Posted 7/19/2011 11:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Chartreux -
This morning I tried half an Alevert (loratidine), and it relieved the chest congestion quickly. I like Alevert because it is non-drowsy, comes in a nice flavored chewable, but also the ingredient, loratidine, comes as cheap store brand also, and is easily breakable. Benadryl puts me to sleep. Now I believe I may really have allergic asthma, as PCP said. I get allergy shots, don't have sneezing or drippy nose. I don't understand how I can have only asthma symptoms. Would more allergy testing help? I don't see allergist until October, but can call. I wonder if I have a problem with one of my meds or a vitamin.

I take B-12 shots as well as sublingual, also Vit D 2000 in the summer, 4000 in winter because I run low on testing.

I'm leery of Xopenex because it's still right-handed albuterol. I'll have a discussion with my allergist. I want to be near a doctor if I try it!

Keep us informed about Oxycollasin. I'll do some reading.

Meantime, I see the pain doc in a couple of weeks and I'll ask about taking more Mobic, which works well for about 4 hours, or a different NSAID. My PCP says it doesn't make much difference if it's taken orally or cream or patch. Reducing the inflamation stops the shoulder pain, but Advil isn't enough. They are all tough on the stomach.
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   Posted 7/19/2011 9:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Homeopathy is essentially energy medicine. Phosphorus homeopathically is not the same thing as the mineral phosphorus, though the homeopathic form is derived from the mineral.

30C is the strength of the remedy that is probably the best to start with. It is a relatively low potency, so won't have any interactions or other risks.

Here's a direct link to the webpage with more info on what symptoms homeopathic phosphorus can potentially help with:
http://abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Phos

Here's a link to a place to purchase the 30C potency Phosphorus at a very reasonable price:
http://www.supersup.com/boiron-phosphorus-30c-80-pellets-306960569138

I have no financial connections with any websites/companies in this post.
-Razzle

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Meds: Ceftazidime, Zofran, Claritin, Singulair, Solu-Medrol, homeopathy, etc.
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