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Alcie
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   Posted 7/4/2011 6:25 AM (GMT -7)   
I won't post a whole article because it's forbidden and probably copyrighted, but  I think you'd have to have a password to read this one from the link.  Could someone check?
 
The information is unusually trustworthy in that it is pulled from studies of many thousands, even millions of patients.  I found it interesting that asthma was found to be very highly related to such a wide variety of diseases.
 
"The asthmatic condition may also be responsible for the development or worsening of comorbidities. In poorly controlled asthma, the use of systemic corticosteroids, reduction of activities and exercise, and possibly poor sleep quality, can all contribute to obesity, diabetes and depression. Oral corticosteroids may predispose to glucose intolerance/diabetes, in addition to osteoporosis, increased fracture risk and pneumonia.[197] Furthermore, it is possible that the inflammatory process due to asthma influences the development or expression of other conditions, as previously mentioned."

Lanie G
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   Posted 7/4/2011 7:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Alcie, Sherry will be back tomorrow.  It looks like you have to register on that website in order to read articles.  Like this Forum, registering is free but you need to supply an email address and name.  I also think it's a trustworthy site, one for professionals as well, so the information would be more in depth than from an article from the paper or magazine.
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nana68
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   Posted 7/4/2011 5:58 PM (GMT -7)   
I am a testimony to this. I was in icu last july for status asthmaticus and nearly died.They saved me but the vent caused pnemonia and the antibiotics for the pnemonia and fungus(also caused by vent)plus the predinisone plus the asthma meds caused me to be paralyzed for awhile plus I now have weaken bones,possibly osteoporosis in my foot,maybe more(only foot xrayed due to problems)plus body wide tendonitis especially bad in left foot,tarsal tunnel.Intestional infection from antibiotics,treacheal stenosis from poorly healed treachea probably from the steroids.extreme sensitivity to alot of things previously not bothered by like bandaids.My hair thinning and falling out growing back predominately gray,thin grooved nails with decalcification,demineralization of my teeth,gerd,fibromyalgia,I probably forgot something but too much to keep track of all because of a very bad asthma attack.
treacheal stenosis,fibromyalgia,panic disorder,ptsd and who knows what else

Lyme14
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   Posted 7/5/2011 8:08 PM (GMT -7)   
 
Alcie,
 
Yes, you do have to sign up to access the article.  I think the common link between asthma and these other conditions may have something to do with mycoplasma pnemoniae or chlamydia pnemoniae.  I have had asthma since 1996--been on all sorts of steroid inhalers and Prednisone over the years by an allergist at a major university medical center in Chicago.  Never once did this allergist test me for mycoplasma pnemoniae.  After the mycoplasma was checked by my primary care doctor, I began poking around the internet and found this site: <www.asthmastory.com>.  As soon as I am done treating my candida and leaky gut, I plan on treating the mycoplasma infection holistically.
 
Nana,
It sounds like you're losing minerals big-time. Also, depending on the direction of the ridges in your nails, you may have adrenal fatigue.
I'm on a compounded adrenal medication for my adrenal issues. I was losing bone for quite a while because my gut is in such bad shape that I wasn't getting the benefit of the minerals I took orally. Consequently,after exposure to formaldehyde and major hacking (coughing), I broke several ribs. I finally found some bath minerals that I can absorb, which has decreased my bone pain significantly.
 
Best wishes on your health journey!

I'm a music teacher, and not a doctor. Anything I post is based on my own experience and lay opinion.
Lyme, Babesiosis, Mycoplasma (Asthma), Fibromyalgia (Soft Tissue Injury), Costochondritis,
CFS (Mitochondrial Dysfunction), IBS (Candida & Leaky Gut), Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Adrenal Fatigue,
ITP (Low Platelets), TMJ, Plantar Fasciitis, Schamberg Purpura, Tinnitis, Allergies, MCS

Alcie
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   Posted 7/6/2011 11:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Lyme - There were some studies on atypical bacteria and asthma mentioned in the article I referenced above. 
"Mycoplasma pneumoniae and Chlamydia pneumoniae have been involved in asthma exacerbations, persistence of asthma and long-term reduction in lung function, but their effects are still uncertain."
  1. Agarwal A, Chander Y. Chronic Chlamydia pneumoniae infection and bronchial asthma: is there a link? Indian J. Med. Microbiol. 26, 338—341 (2008).
  2. Sutherland ER, Martin RJ. Asthma and atypical bacterial infection. Chest 132, 1962—1966 (2007).

 

A long time ago I had a problem with some adrenal compound I was sold by a natural something-or-other.  I don't remember what she called herself now.  It hopped me up.  I figured out it was the adrenalin in the stuff.  It was no cure!


Red_34
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   Posted 7/6/2011 12:38 PM (GMT -7)   
I didn't want to register to read the whole article but from what you stated above, it doesn't surprise me that steroids can cause all those things and as for asthma can contribute to the other conditions - it sort of goes with the saying, what came first? The chicken or the egg?
SHERRY
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Lyme14
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   Posted 7/6/2011 9:35 PM (GMT -7)   
 
Alcie,
 
Sorry to hear you were given a bad supplement.  Mine is from a reputable compoundung pharmacy and it's only available with a prescription.
 
I'm a music teacher, and not a doctor. Anything I post is based on my own experience and lay opinion.
Lyme, Babesiosis, Mycoplasma (Asthma), Fibromyalgia (Soft Tissue Injury), Costochondritis,
CFS (Mitochondrial Dysfunction), IBS (Candida & Leaky Gut), Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Adrenal Fatigue,
ITP (Low Platelets), TMJ, Plantar Fasciitis, Schamberg Purpura, Tinnitis, Allergies, MCS

nana68
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   Posted 7/7/2011 5:48 AM (GMT -7)   
the ridges go long ways not across
treacheal stenosis,fibromyalgia,panic disorder,ptsd and who knows what else

Lyme14
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   Posted 7/7/2011 5:56 PM (GMT -7)   
 
Nana,
 
If the shiny layer of the nail is also missing, those can mean adrenal fatigue or a fungal infection that has not progressed all the way through through the nail.  Some doctors will treat adrenal fatigue with adrenal cortisol, but some won't treat it.  A couple of decades ago, some of the docs at the university hospitals were overtreating adrenal issues which got them in trouble, so now some are afraid to treat it at all.  A blood test or a saliva test can measure adrenal cortisol. 
 
 
I'm a music teacher, and not a doctor. Anything I post is based on my own experience and lay opinion.
Lyme, Babesiosis, Mycoplasma (Asthma), Fibromyalgia (Soft Tissue Injury), Costochondritis,
CFS (Mitochondrial Dysfunction), IBS (Candida & Leaky Gut), Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Adrenal Fatigue,
ITP (Low Platelets), TMJ, Plantar Fasciitis, Schamberg Purpura, Tinnitis, Allergies, MCS

Lyme14
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   Posted 7/7/2011 6:16 PM (GMT -7)   
 
Alcie,
 
It's understandable that the article would arrive at that conclusion re: mycoplasma pnemoniae and chlamydia pnemoniae.  The more I read about various mycoplasmas, the more I find out that probably the majority of doctors are not too familiar with them.  I believe this is because they are difficult to test for (although not impossible).  I think they tend to get overlooked because symptoms can be easily diagnosed as more common conditions like asthma, pnemonia, etc., without a pressing need to test for mycoplasma.  However, if you look up the various types of mycoplasmas (ureaplasma article lists many forms) in the same journal you quoted, they are present with rheumatoid arthritis, PID, infertility, urethritis, cervicitis, bronchitis, and pyelonephritis.  That's not to say that they are always involved in these conditions, but certainly that they may be involved. 
 
My mycoplasma infection came with my tick bite.  I never had respiratory symptoms prior to that.  (I was diagnosed with asthma within 6 months of the bite).  That is not the only way a mycoplasma infection can be acquired.  It took 15 years to get Lyme and Babesios diagnosed, and 16 years to get mycoplasma diagnosed.  No one tested for any of it for that long, despite seeing 12+ doctors in that time. 
 
 
 
    
I'm a music teacher, and not a doctor. Anything I post is based on my own experience and lay opinion.
Lyme, Babesiosis, Mycoplasma (Asthma), Fibromyalgia (Soft Tissue Injury), Costochondritis,
CFS (Mitochondrial Dysfunction), IBS (Candida & Leaky Gut), Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Adrenal Fatigue,
ITP (Low Platelets), TMJ, Plantar Fasciitis, Schamberg Purpura, Tinnitis, Allergies, MCS

couchtater
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   Posted 7/7/2011 6:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Nana,
My father for years had problems with his toe nail being yellow, flaky, and growing weird. They kept thinking it was a fungal infection. Last week he had it biopsied. It was a type of skin cancer.
Just a thought.

Lyme14,
I noticed you suffer from Plantar Fasciitis. I recently went through a bout of it from November to February. Have you ever had ultrasound therapy? It cured mine in one month of physical therapy and ultrasound treatment. Meanwhile wear a good sturdy shoe with heal cushions. Also rolling a frozen bottle of water under the arch will help.
Joy

Lyme14
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   Posted 7/7/2011 8:22 PM (GMT -7)   
 
Hi Joy,
 
Thanks for the info!  I will look into that.  Most of my pain went away when I detoxed from mercury.  It's only occassional now.
 
 
I'm a music teacher, and not a doctor. Anything I post is based on my own experience and lay opinion.
Lyme, Babesiosis, Mycoplasma (Asthma), Fibromyalgia (Soft Tissue Injury), Costochondritis,
CFS (Mitochondrial Dysfunction), IBS (Candida & Leaky Gut), Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Adrenal Fatigue,
ITP (Low Platelets), TMJ, Plantar Fasciitis, Schamberg Purpura, Tinnitis, Allergies, MCS
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