Natural Remedies for Allergies

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stereofidelic89
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   Posted 12/30/2011 8:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Does anyone have any natural remedies for allergies? I've had them all of my life, but at night and in morning they are the worst. I just don't want to be laying in bed with my partner and feel like I have to fight my nostrills to breathe every minute!

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   Posted 12/30/2011 10:50 AM (GMT -7)   
What do you mean by "natural" remedies? I consider my weekly injections "natural" in that I get the nature-made allergens, not some antihistamine.

OTC medications are not necessarily "natural" either. Things like Benadryl and other antihistamines are sold without prescription, and they do work.

I don't consider herbs any more natural than my shots, and they are not controlled for safety or effectiveness. But I respect that many will disagree with my little opinion and may well have good results with them.

For my food allergies, the only thing that works is avoidance. I guess that's natural.

stereofidelic89
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   Posted 12/30/2011 4:14 PM (GMT -7)   
I understand things like Benadryl and other OTC drugs are not natural.

And you consider injections natural? Doesn't matter if they are nature-made allergens, that is not a natural process to reduce allergy symptoms, its probably the same if not worse than OTC drugs. Think about it. Your injecting allergens in your body that have already given you plenty of notice in saying you're allergic to them. They can't be digested, or absorbed by your body naturally, so your putting yourself at risk for developing an auto-immune response every time, which causes inflammation in your body. And inflammation over time is painful, life threatening and the #1 cause for disease in the body. Thank God injecting yourself is mostly regulated.

Herbs DO NOT need to be regulated like OTC drugs do. Moderation is key and knowledge is best when using them, as they are exactly natural in their own state and effectiveness, having a shot regardless of how natural it is... is unnatural.
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Alcie
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   Posted 12/30/2011 5:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Your response was most interesting. I hadn't thought about the allergy shots that way. But allergies are considered a disorder of the immune system, and it's true that some people, like those with lupus, do have bad reactions. The shots are supposed to turn off the inappropriate response to allergens.

I'd like to read more about inflammatory responses to the shots. Nothing else has been very useful for me. I seem to have less inflammation with them than without. I certainly breathe better. Also, I have to be careful with herbs because I have sensitivities to some of them and the preservatives sometimes used. Garlic and anything in that family, bottled lemon juice, peppermint all give me tachycardia. Saline nasal sprays and rinses don't help me. I don't tolerate spicey foods.

I'll keep following the thread in case someone comes up with something better.

stereofidelic89
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   Posted 12/30/2011 8:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Hmm, i've never heard of anyone lacing herbs with preservatives... ?? What herbs do you know of that need preservatives?

The thought process behind injecting the body with allergens is thought to create antibodies to make the system more immune to certain allergens. But like a flu shot or any vaccine, you can't buy into alot of things that are heavily advertised. Flu shots and other vaccines have the same effect, but they are also made with antibiotics and other unnatural ingredients that can worsen the immune system and lead to diseases. You could look up alot of things about the dangers of vaccines/flu shots and find a whole lot of information on how we dont even need them and how the government makes a ton of money off of getting people to get one, all for commercial advertising purposes.
21 year old male- college senior, diagnosed severe UC - Sept. 2011
7.5mg prednisone
800mg asacol 3xdaily
Rainbow Light Mens Daily multi
L-Glutamine powder
3000mg Fish Oil
Aloe Vera Juice
Low fiber diet
Primal Defense Probiotics
----
"be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle"

Alcie
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   Posted 12/31/2011 12:54 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't use medicinal herbs, but pepper, wine and cider vinegar, grapes, garlic and onions, gelatin and the vitamin biotin all contain sulfites, which is in them naturally, but is also added to a lot of stuff as a preservative. I can't eat mixed spices, tortillas or potatoes (except fresh baked), most seafood including fish oil, dried fruits and dried coconut since they are all sulfited now. I react badly to dextrose, corn starch, corn syrup, molasses, colorings and sweeteners. It's generally the same problem. Since herbs aren't regulated and often don't list "inactive" ingredients, I am afraid to use them. My reaction is tachycardia and irregular heartbeat, and I had a heart attack (triggered by non-labeled preservatives) from eating a bowl of cereal with dried fruit.

I don't take most vaccines because they generally have gelatin (made from pig skin and therefore containing sulfite) and sulfites as preservatives, which is the cause of inflammation and allergic reaction for me. I've had bad reactions to flu shots and pneumonia vaccine, after which I investigated the ingredients and found out why - gelatin and sulfites. I did get rabies series, had no bad effects. I've had most of the childhood diseases, including polio. At least that one is worse than the vaccination because I now have post-polio syndrome, which is dying nerves, making swallowing more and more difficult in my case. My sister is wheelchair bound from this after-effect because she has only 17% of her nerves left. Whooping cough wasn't a lot of fun. I thought I would die. Having chicken pox has made me susceptible to the most horribly painful and long-lasting rash you could possibly imagine from shingles. Measles, mumps and rubella weren't too bad, but I'm female and didn't have to worry about sterility from mumps. So I'm in favor of some vaccines, although not the government schedule. They weren't available when I had the diseases.

I wouldn't dare take your mesalamine because it is preserved with potassium metabisulfite, at least in the non-branded version.

stereofidelic89
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   Posted 12/31/2011 1:09 PM (GMT -7)   
It sounds like your immune system has dealt with a lot. However, in my case I dont really have a choice in what i can take for medications or not. I have an auto-immune condition, and because there is no cure for it the only way to reduce immediate severe symptoms is to use medicine (which i've only used for a few month and plan to get off very soon). I'm very against medicine, but theres a time and place for it when you're body needs something else besides natural means to help stabilize.

All of the medicinal herbs you mentioned... like grapes and olives are not medicinal herbs, they are food... I'm talking about plant herbs, like dandelion, chamomile, peppermint, etc... to help reduce allergy symptoms. That sucks you have an allergic reaction to sulfites, some people cannot handle specific things, but with me sulfites are okay.
21 year old male- college senior, diagnosed severe UC - Sept. 2011
7.5mg prednisone
800mg asacol 3xdaily
Rainbow Light Mens Daily multi
L-Glutamine powder
3000mg Fish Oil
Aloe Vera Juice
Low fiber diet
Primal Defense Probiotics
----
"be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle"

Alcie
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   Posted 12/31/2011 7:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Do dorry you have autoimmune. My post-polio is like that without any hope for a cure, so I comprehend the frustration. Sulfite is often an acquired allergy. It came up, or worsened to being a problem, when I had been eating lots of pre-prepared meals. I used to be able to eat dried fruit in my hiking and backpacking days but no more.

I'm not against medicine, just the unnecessary additives, colors, sweeteners, flavors, preservatives, etc. I am also sceptical of claims for cures until I've read scientific papers, preferably large studies. Before going with the injections I asked what was added to the solutions. Since there were no preservatives or gelatin I'm ok. It's lots better than antihistamines for me. I'm a real pest, asking all the time what's in everything.

I've had reactions to several brands of tea, one that even mentions sulfite added. I tried chamomile and peppermint, reacted somewhat to both, although the peppermint reaction could have been from relaxing the lower esophageal sphincter, causing gastric reflux. I've eaten dandelion greens often in the past. Never noticed any improvement in my pollen allergies, but I wasn't looking for it. Garlic is often touted as good for allergies, maybe not an herb to you, but it comes up on lists. I don't really use herbs much, just a few individual ones as spices in cooking, and avoiding the mixes which usually have garlic, onion or pepper.

stereofidelic89
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   Posted 1/4/2012 8:56 AM (GMT -7)   
I hear ya, sorry about the sulfite allergies, but look how far you've come!

If you can ever find a herb-supplier or store in your area, they vow to not use any preservatives in their herbs. They get them shipped and locally grown as best they can according to the area, but like I said would not want to be known as an unnatural supplier. So for allergy remedies this may be your best bet. :) Good luck to you!
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Dietary: Aloe Vera Juice, Rainbow Light Mens Daily multi, L-Glutamine powder, 3000mg Fish Oil, Low fiber diet
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hilarylynne
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   Posted 10/1/2012 10:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I hear Butterburr is great. I'm waiting on my bottle to arrive in the mail. I'll let you know how it works!

jujub
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   Posted 10/2/2012 5:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Some people swear by honey for pollen allergies. A teaspoon of locally produced honey a day will supposedly allow your body to desensitize to the allergen. Of course, that's the same process as the allergy shots, so might also not meet your needs.

I have "allergies" that are not the usual IgE-mediated responses. My itchy eyes and ears, congestion, wheezing, etc. are very present but I have absolutely no response to diagnostic skin tests. So allergy shots are not an option for me. I was told by a nurse practitioner in my GI's practice that these responses are not uncommon in people with IBD.
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Razzle
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   Posted 10/3/2012 1:00 AM (GMT -7)   
IBD sometimes causes anergy, which means the skin won't create a reaction to the allergens in the test serums used on the skin scratch/prick tests. So you have to get tested by blood test instead (RAST or CAP-RAST for food allergies).

Also, many herbs are preserved by making them into tinctures, which requires sulfited ingredients (alcohol and/or glycerin).
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