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Foksola
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   Posted 6/8/2013 2:36 AM (GMT -6)   
I wonder about fat and oils.
What do you use to prepare your food?
I used coconut oil and olive oil till now, but I'm not so sure that this is save?

And another question for those who know ;)
In the ebook I red about sucralose beeing artificial? i thought sucralose was unrefined sugar with all the vitamins still in it :(
Help me out here ;)

Jasmine Grace
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   Posted 6/8/2013 12:06 PM (GMT -6)   
I only use coconut oil and olive oil for cooking as well.

Apparently a coconut can (rarely) trigger allergic reactions in people who are allergic to one or more tree nuts. I suggest you google "coconut oil allergies" for more info. But if you're not allergic to it, coconut oil has some wonderful health benefits! And I know it has helped to soothe my skin when my skin is flaring up.

I learned in my Human Structure & Function unit at university that one of the healthy oils is olive oil...

Sucralose is an artificial sweetener - it is derived from sugar (so it's very refined). I steer clear of all artificial sweeteners and the like because they give me trouble. Sucralose has been known to cause allergic reactions in some people.
Age: 18

Conditions: Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, chronic pain syndrome, irritable bowel syndrome, allergies, dermatitis, low immunity, food intolerances, panic attacks , tinnitus, restless legs syndrome... and I won't list the rest

Goals: to be an occupational therapist who specialises in treating people with blindness and people with fibromyalgia
To travel around the world

Foksola
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   Posted 6/8/2013 12:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I just realized I was mixing up sucralose ans sucanat :( sucanat is the one that isn't artificial ;)
Do you know about ricecakes ( ricewaffel) are they safe to eat?
Cause sometimes I think to make my heart beat twice as fast, but I'm not sure they are the reason ;)
Thanks som much for replaying!

Jasmine Grace
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   Posted 6/9/2013 7:47 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't know about the rice cakes...
You could do this to find out:
1) make sure you only eat foods you KNOW you're not allergic to for 50 hours, and for the last 4-8 hours (depending on whether the last thing you ate was something simple to digest like fruit, or hard to digest, like meat), don't eat or drink anything except water. This will decrease the chances of there being any allergens in your system.
2) Eat plain rice cakes (with no spreads).
3) Don't eat anything else but rice cakes until either you have an allergic reaction or 6 hours have passed (if you have a fast metabolism) or 8 hours have passed (if you have a sluggish metabolism).

Of course, I'm not a medical professional, this is just based on my knowledge and experience. At any rate, this shouldn't do you any harm, unless you are hypoglycaemic. If you do have hypoglycaemia then obviously you should eat every 2-3 hours, in which case feel free to eat rice cakes with the water during step 1.
Age: 18

Conditions: Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, chronic pain syndrome, irritable bowel syndrome, allergies, dermatitis, low immunity, food intolerances, panic attacks , tinnitus, restless legs syndrome... and I won't list the rest

Goals: to be an occupational therapist who specialises in treating people with blindness and people with fibromyalgia
To travel around the world

Foksola
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   Posted 6/9/2013 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks! I will give it a try!

Jasmine Grace
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   Posted 6/9/2013 11:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Cool, let me know how it goes
Age: 18

Conditions: Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, chronic pain syndrome, irritable bowel syndrome, allergies, dermatitis, low immunity, food intolerances, panic attacks , tinnitus, restless legs syndrome... and I won't list the rest

Goals: to be an occupational therapist who specialises in treating people with blindness and people with fibromyalgia
To travel around the world

Alcie
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   Posted 6/9/2013 8:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Sugar (sucrose) has no vitamins. There are some minerals in unrefined sugar. Sugar processing adds sulfites to sugar especially to beet sugar for whitening.

Be careful with eating large quantities of anything to which you think you could have an allergy or sensitivity.

Testing for food sensitivity should always be done under a doctor's direction! The way my allergist does the test is called "food challenge." You start with a small quantity - a teaspoon if it's a likely allergen or a tablespoon if you suspect a larger amount will be needed to produce the response. Wait 20 minutes, then double the quantity. Wait another 20 minutes and double the last amount. When you get up to 16 teaspoons or 16 times the first dose then you stop. Of course you stop any time you get a reaction.

Keeping a "food diary" should be the first step in finding sensitivities or allergies. You write down everything you eat or drink, the time, any meds, any reactions. When you have a list of suspect foods you separate the ingredients to find the actual culprits. For me, it wasn't the meat in the hamburger, just the bun and the condiments. Lettuce and tomato were fine. Anything with vinegar was a problem.

Foksola - tachycardia (rapid heartbeat) can be a reaction to a sensitivity to some foods. It's the reaction I get from consuming foods containing sulfites. My trigger foods have had me in the hospital several times, including a heart attack. Having this reaction is serious. You should have your heart checked and don't do any food testing except under the direction of a really good allergist. Some doctors don't recognize food sensitivity reactions. It took me 4 doctors to find one who helped me, and I suspected sulfites because I had no reaction to wine I made until I sulfited one batch.

Jasmine Grace
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   Posted 6/9/2013 9:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok, Alcie's way sounds more safe and knowledgeable... probably better to try it that way. Sorry if I said anything that could cause harm.
Age: 18

Conditions: Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, chronic pain syndrome, irritable bowel syndrome, allergies, dermatitis, low immunity, food intolerances, panic attacks , tinnitus, restless legs syndrome... and I won't list the rest

Goals: to be an occupational therapist who specialises in treating people with blindness and people with fibromyalgia
To travel around the world

Foksola
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   Posted 6/10/2013 1:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you Alcie!
I've seen many doctors for my problem, but no one seems to be able to help me. I was in the hospital three years ago, with AP cause of vain spasme. They gave me medicine and did a heart catherisarion. Nothing was wrong with my vains, exept for the spasmen. The next months I developed a acne, wich I never had before and I thought it was caused by the medication! So they gave me less, exept for the one I just couldn't do without. Nothing changed... So I went to see another doctor who said it was Rosacea. I know that it was NOT, so I went to see a dermatologist. He tested me, my blood and with patches and ever since he placed rhe patched my system decided to go its own way. I was suddenly allergic to everything I at or touched!! The doctor told me to go on a anti histamine diet, he didn't know what to do :( So I did, and I've been researching ever since! Writing down everything I eat, my response and how I feel.It's very difficult to find out what the problem is but at last I found out that salicylates ans sulfites are the main triggers for me! I've gone GV, made my own bread from rice and teff, but I wanted to try something else, so I bought a mix. In this mix was cornstarch and I didn't know
( forgot) that it had sulfites in it! A lot!!! So I had big trouble with my heart and my face looked worse then ever. My heart was in heavy protest and it scared the hell out of me! It was a confirmation that sulfites are realy bad for me! The medication I had also contains sulfites, so I talked to the cardiologist about it and she gave me permision to stop for a while, see what happens. And guess what...I'm doing just fine! Don't need the meds if I stick to sals en sulfites free! But it is hard to find al the things that contain sulfites. I'm making a list of it, so I can check and plan every day what to eat, but sometimes I make a mistake. And once eaten....In the Netherlands it is very hard to find a dietist that knows about sulfites ans sals! Even the doctors don't believe in it.Because if you can't see it is just not there!
I lost a lot of weight during this struggle, but maybe if I know exactly what I can eat, i'll gain some weight again.
Vitamines are no option I discoverd! i spent a lot of money trying them, but they all give me a very bad acne!
So now you know I have to do this on my own with the help of internet and people suffering from the same problem.
I've been searching for almost a year now, but I know I'm going to win this battle. I bought te Salicylaat Handbook and the Sulfite connection and they are my bibles ;) thanks for you help and if you have any tips for me, please say so.I will be much gratefull!

Razzle
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   Posted 6/10/2013 10:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Foksola,

If you email me (click the envelop icon under my name at the left) with something about "sulfite list" in the subject, I can send you a big list of the things that contain or may contain sulfites.

Take care,
-Razzle

Chronic Lyme, Bart., Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut dysmotility & non-specific inflammation, Lupus, Osteoporosis, etc.; G-Tube
Meds: Flagyl, Domperidone, Zofran, Claritin, Andrographis & other herbs, homeopathy, supplements, etc.

nrm1
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   Posted 6/11/2013 8:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Razzle can I email you and get that list also? I'm suffering with what I think is a sulfite sensitivity as well. I'm new to the process? Thanks so much!

Alcie
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   Posted 6/12/2013 3:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, All, do listen to Razzle. The Raz has experience with sulfite as an allergy. My experience is with sulfite as a sensitivity, even though a serious reaction.

For a good, free online book which includes lists of foods and medicines and how much sulfite is in each and also how to calculate how much sulfite you tolerate and how much is in the food you eat see
http://www.learningtarget.com/nosulfites/index.htm

My particular reaction to sulfites sometimes called "cardioesophageal reflex" or "linked angina." My esophagus and stomach trigger my vagus nerve, which goes to many organs, including the heart. My heart then starts beating too rapidly and sometimes the arteries spasm. One time this gave me a 95% closure of an artery, basically a heart attack although my enzymes never rose much. I was life-flighted to a hospital and had a stent put in. Hardly any doctors have heard of this although there are studies available online. Since then I have had to get my heart cardioverted (chemically stopping heart and hoping it will restart with a correct rhythm). Not fun! While this is probably an unusual reaction, it's nothing to fool with. If you think you have it see a cardiologist AND an allergist. You may have to get second and third opinions to find a doctor who has heard of it. Print a couple of studies and take them with you. Keep a really good food diary, as Folksola is doing.

Razzle
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   Posted 6/13/2013 5:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, anyone is welcome to email me to get the sulfite list.

My sulfite reactions began as sensitivity reactions (heartburn/reflux, flushing, that sort of thing), and gradually became more and more severe.
-Razzle

Chronic Lyme, Bart., Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut dysmotility & non-specific inflammation, Lupus, Osteoporosis, etc.; G-Tube
Meds: Flagyl, Domperidone, Zofran, Claritin, Andrographis & other herbs, homeopathy, supplements, etc.
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