Magnesium for pvcs

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hazelnut86
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   Posted 2/15/2014 11:28 AM (GMT -6)   
does anyone take this for pacs/pvcs?

i asked my cardiologist about it and she said i could take 350 mg a day well my multivitamin has 50 and i just got this new supplement called magox400 - well i get it and see on back it says 486 mg. strange. soi'm now wondering if taking over 500 mg a day is not good. ?? does anyone know?

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   Posted 2/15/2014 11:32 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm not familiar with the product you mention, or taking it for palps, but I've taken it in the past, in a powdered form, to help me with anxiety and quell the nerves. For that it's worked great.

We've used it in the aviary for stressed birds, so,...I'm not sure if that applies to anything in particular, but I thought I'd just toss that in the mix!



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hazelnut86
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   Posted 2/15/2014 11:46 AM (GMT -6)   
magnesium?

the magox was supposed to be a more pure form or something - says recommended by drs on the front i think. there is magnesium oxide and mag. something else just like other supps have diff forms. some are better i guess. anyway i spent $20 and found it isn't any diff. from the one i have at home that was half the price or less.

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   Posted 2/15/2014 1:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I have PVCs. It was really bad last summer. Ended up in the ER, echocardiogram, holter monitor, several ekgs. Doctors said my heart was fine, but it drove me crazy, all the flipping and flopping around with the PVCs. I started taking magnesium supplements (700mg/day) and it has all but stopped. I have a racing heart once in a while, but I think that is more anxiety related. I'm convinced that I had a magnesium imbalance and that is what caused my PVCs. Stress depletes magnesium, so it really isn't that surprising.

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   Posted 2/15/2014 1:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Actually, I take 600mg /day and I split it up. I have 100mg pills that I take 2 of w each meal. Also, I try to eat magnesium rich foods. Brazil nuts are a great source of magnesium.

hazelnut86
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   Posted 2/15/2014 1:29 PM (GMT -6)   
okay thanks I noticed after I eat I get them more and I'm eating small amounts because I just found out I have a slow emptying stomach maybe it's psychosomatic I don't know I guess you know if your getting too much magnesium maybe I need calcium too. also trying to figure out of going out into the public to an art thing with my son would be good and get my mind off of them or make me more stressed out I don't know

hazelnut86
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   Posted 2/15/2014 1:30 PM (GMT -6)   
does that show up on a CBC magnesium or electrolyte imbalance cause I kinda want to go back to Urgent Care and have that done or I may just wait till Monday to go see my regular doctor

hazelnut86
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   Posted 2/15/2014 1:34 PM (GMT -6)   
they're just so unnerving they say don't pay attention that how can you not feel so abnormal

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   Posted 2/15/2014 1:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Hazel,
magnesium is great for calming the nerves and such.
Here is some excellent info for you:

The best forms of magnesium are magnesium taurate, magnesium glycinate, magnesium citrate, magnesium malate, magnesium oratate and magnesium oil.

Oral supllements
I will mention some of the oral supplements. Magnesium is available in chelated (bound to) combinations such as alpha-ketogluconate, aspartate, glycinate, lysinate, orotate, taurate and others.

Chalated magnesium is far better absorbed than magnesium oxide but is more expensive. Complementary medicine practitioners rely on chelated magnesium, such as magnesium glycinate, taurate and oratate (magnesium plus amino acids) to treat serious cases of magnesium deficiency. These kind of magnesiums have less laxative effect on the intestines than magnesium citrate, so they are recomended if you tend to have loose stools.

Magnesium taurate is a combination of the amino acid taurine and magnesium that has special properties for the heart. Taken together in this combination, magnesium and taurine have a synergistic effect, stabilizing cell membranes, making this form of magnesium highly absorbed. Magnesium taurate does not have great laxative effect and is the recommendend form of magnesium for people with heart problems. It appears that the amino acid taurine is important for hearth health and may prevent arrythmias and protect the heart against the damage caused by heart attacks. Magnesium taurate requires oral supplemetation for six to twelve months to restore intracellular levels.

Magnesium citrate is probably the mostly widely used magnesium supplement because it is inexpensive, easily absorbed and only has a mild laxative effect. The best form is magnesium citrate powder mixed in water that can be taken everyday.

Magnesium malate combines magnisium with malic acid, a weak organic acid found in vegetables and fruit, especially apples. The weak bond with magnesium makes it readily soluble in the body. Malic acid is a key component of several energy making chemical reactions in the body. Researchers have used magnesium malate succesfully to treat the chronic fatigue, pain and imsonia of fibromyalgia. Dimagnesium malate increases the amount of magnesium available to the body; it has the same properties as magnesium malate.

Magnesium oxide appears to have high amount of elemental magnesium. One 500 mg capsule of magnesium oxide contains 300 mg of elemental magnesium. But little of that amount is avaialable to the body beacause it is not absorbed and therefore not biologically avaialable. One recent study reported 4 percent absorption rate of magnesium oxide. This means 12 mg of 500 mg capsule are absorbed and 288 may stay in the intestines, acting like a laxative. Imagine how much favorable the result would be if a more absorbable form of magnesium were used.

Magnesiums to avoid
Avoid magnesium glutamate; it breaks down into the neurotransmitter glutamic acid, which without being bound to other amino acids is neurotoxic. Glutamic acid is a component of aspartame, which should also be avoided.

Avoid magnesium aspartate; it breaks down into the neurotransmitter aspartic acid, which without being bound to other aminoacids is neurotoxic. Aspartic acid is a component of aspartame,which als should be avoided.

How to take magnesium
Take your first dose of magnesium when you wake up in the morning and the last dose at bedtime. Magnesium is most deficient in the early morning and late afternoon. Most people find magnesium as good as a sleepin pill to help them get a good night’s rest.

Magnesium can be taken with or without meals, but it is preferable to take it between meals for better absorption. Magnesium requires stomach acid to be absorbed. After a full meal, your stomach acid is busy digesting food and may not be avaialable to helpl absorb magnesium. Also magnesium is an alkaline mineral and acts like an antiacid: taken with meals, it may neutralize stomach acid and impair digestion.
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f you develop loose stools while taking magnesium, it does not necessarily mean you are absorbing enough and losing the rest; it may mean you are taking to much at one time. NEVER TAKE YOUR DAILY MAGNESIUM ALL AT ONCE. Spread it out throughthe day; four times a day is best if you have been experiencing diarrhea. If that does not do the trick, you probably need to cut back the amount you are taking or switch to another type or brand of magnesium.

If you are taking a multivitamin-mineral supplement, remember to check the amount of elemental magnesium on the label and count it in your daily total.

The safety of magnesium supplements
For the average person, oral magnesium, even in high dosages, has no side effects except loose stools, whichs is a mechanism to release excess magnesium and an indication to cut back. Excess magnesium is also lost through the urine.


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   Posted 2/15/2014 1:39 PM (GMT -6)   
No, unfortunately, I don't think magnesium is typically on a CBC. Also, I don't know if I would also supplement w calcium. Many times when magnesium is out of whack (so to speak) it is because calcium is too high in relation to it. The ratio is off. So, adding more calcium and magnesium can keep up the imbalance. Another thing you can do is an Epsom salt foot bath. There is magnesium in that and it can be very calming, especially before bed.


It might help to do something to get your mind off things. I know doing something else instead of focusing on my PVCs always helps me! Hope you feel better soon!

Post Edited (Miss JE) : 2/15/2014 2:28:03 PM (GMT-7)


Merrida
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   Posted 2/15/2014 4:15 PM (GMT -6)   
If I remember correctly, (and I'll admit that I may not), there are not only "optimal" forms of magnesium, but also ideal formulations, and optimum combinations for absorption (ie: the inclusion of calcium, magnesium, and vitamin D3). There's a synergistic reaction. The molecular weight of the supplement you're taking varies based on form, so if it's "too heavy," it cannot permeate the membrane.

That's why I found the powdered form of magnesium so beneficial (which I would supplement with calcium and vitamin D).

Check with your pharmacist as they may be more familiar with what the ideal breakdowns should be. (Especially given your doc has suggested you increase your intake).




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hazelnut86
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   Posted 2/15/2014 9:23 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks guys. well it's not helping me so far. i got the mag. oxide at the pharmacy so expensive too.

my palps are bad right now and i just ate a piece of pizza. driving me nuts!!!

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   Posted 2/15/2014 9:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Mag. oxide is NOT very bio-available! Almost useless. :(
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