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jaminhealth
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Posted 3/8/2015 10:17 AM (GMT -8)
Just reading Dr. David Williams recent Alternaties and he has this segment in his letter this month:

Anxiety Solutions
Question: I know you don’t think too highly of antianxiety
medications, but the panic attacks I experience
are real and I believe inherited. I’ve tried natural
remedies, including valerian root and St. John’s
Wort. At first I thought they were helping, but maybe
it was the placebo effect because my anxiety and
panic quickly returned. Can you please offer any
other suggestions? My doctor and family want me to
see a psychiatrist for medication, but I’d prefer to try
other alternatives first. — M.S., Houston, TX
Answer: To say I’m not a fan of antidepressants
or anxiety medications is an understatement.
Chemically altering brain function is akin to playing
catch with live hand grenades.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental
Disorders (DSM) from the American Psychiatric
Association lists around 300 official mental disorders,
including schizophrenia and autism to depression
and ADHD.

While the accepted cause of all these mental
disorders is a chemical imbalance in the brain, not a
single one can be determined by a physical diagnostic
test. Because there’s no brain scan or blood,
urine, or saliva test to define any of these conditions,
doctors diagnose solely by behavior.

Everyone experiences periods of grief, doubt,
uncontrolled anger, aggression, confusion, sadness,
pain, and even depression at one point or another.
Based on behavior alone, there’s not a single one of
us who couldn’t be diagnosed with one of the 300
disorders on any given day.

But if a chemical imbalance is to blame, wouldn’t it
be reasonable to assume that you could make a true
diagnosis by testing the levels of certain chemicals?
And wouldn’t a return of certain chemicals to appropriate
levels validate that a treatment program was
working? Unfortunately, that’s not the way it works.
Psychiatrists will tell you certain behaviors are a
sign of chemical imbalances or genetic aberrations,
but those imbalances cannot be validated with any
physical test. Their answer is to prescribe powerful
drugs that chemically alter brain function, but without
some kind of tangible baseline, there’s no way to
tell if chemicals are actually being “balanced.” It’s all
based on behavior. Prayer, meditation, magnetism,
and crystals all change behavior but are labeled as
scams, placebos, or wishful thinking. But psychiatry
gets a pass. Psychiatrists claim it’s different for them.
The proof is in the pudding. If behavior changes,
then it means the drugs are working.

The side effects of these drugs are often worse
than the problem they are meant to treat. And in
almost every case, if you read the warning labels,
you’ll find that taking them can actually cause the
very issues they are supposed to eliminate.
You might ask, what about conditions such as
autism, where it seems obvious that the behavior
is a clear result of neurological problems? Like
many other disorders, it’s far easier to classify it as
a chemical imbalance when you want to sell drugs,
rather than admit it could be caused by a head
injury, vaccinations, environmental toxins, or even a
nutritional deficiency.

Psychiatry is one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated.
It has no basis or grounding in science. It is
licensed, dangerous experimentation on the masses.
Fortunately, there are natural alternatives, some of
which have been used for hundreds, even thousands
of years without any safety issues or side effects.

■ Lithium: One example is lithium, which is a trace
mineral, not a drug as many people believe.
Deficiencies in lithium have been linked to higher
rates of manic depression, mental hospital admissions,
suicides, homicides, rapes, criminal arrests,
and alcohol and drug use. No toxicity problems
have been reported at doses of 10–20 mg of
elemental lithium a day. The chelated form of
lithium—either lithium orotate or lithium aspartate—is
recommended. Check the label to see the
actual amount of elemental lithium the supplement
contains. For example, a 120 mg tablet of lithium
orotate provides roughly 5 mg of elemental lithium.

■ Glycine: The amino acid glycine is one of the
primary components of collagen (or gelatin).
It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that our lower
intake of glycine-rich collagen over the last few
decades is linked to an increase in panic attacks.
In the past, glycine was shown to calm the central
nervous system and be an effective method
of controlling panic attacks. At the first sign of
a panic attack, I’ve seen remarkable results by
putting 2 grams of glycine powder underneath
the tongue and letting it dissolve slowly. Glycine
is one of those “therapeutic pearls” from the past
that seems to have been forgotten. It’s low-cost
and widely available, but the fact that it isn’t a
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jaminhealth
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Posted 3/8/2015 10:23 AM (GMT -8)
SECOND PART OF ARTICLE:

prescription drug probably
doesn’t add to its popularity
in many circles.

■ GABA: Another amino acid,
gamma-aminobutyric acid
(GABA), has been repeatedly
shown to safely help
stop panic attacks. GABA is
one of the inhibitory neurotransmitters
that works as a
counterbalance to excitatory
neurotransmitters. If you know
you’re getting ready to encounter
a situation that could
bring on a panic attack, you
can empty a 500 mg capsule
of GABA under your tongue
and let it dissolve slowly. Or if
it’s easier, just wash the capsule
down with water on an
empty stomach. GABA is also
inexpensive—a bottle of 100
capsules runs about $10, and
it’s even cheaper if you buy
the bulk powder. Many people
have found that using 1–3
grams at bedtime can help
them relax and sleep better.

■ Kava: Over 20 years ago, I
experienced the anti-anxiety
benefits of kava, another very
viable and effective treatment
option. Unless you live in the
South Sea Islands, the easiest
way to use kava for anxiety is
to take a standardized extract
of 50 mg of kavalactones (20–
30 percent kavalactones) three
times daily. Taking the entire
dose just prior to bedtime can
also help relieve insomnia.

■ Ashwagandha: This Indian
herb is one of the most powerful
in the Ayurvedic healing
system for not only dealing
with anxiety and stress but
also physical and mental
fatigue. It is an adaptogenic
herb that helps modulate or
adjust your body’s response to
an ever-changing environment.
I’ve seen such positive overall
results with ashwagandha
that I’ve made it a supporting
component in my multivitamin/
mineral formula.

■ Zembrin®

: An extract from the
South African plant Sceletium
tortuosum that is sold under
the name Zembrin, this nutrient
has been used by South
African tribesmen and early
European explorers in that
area for over 300 years. It has
some very significant research
studies to support its
effectiveness and has never
been shown to have any side
effects or toxicity. I personally
take Zembrin (combined with
ashwagandha) every day, and
although I don’t have panic
attacks or other mental disorders,
I notice more calmness
and an overall heightened
sense of well-being. I also
feel it has enhanced my cognitive
skills, another positive
effect that has been demonstrated
repeatedly in clinical
studies.

I understand your reluctance
to hop on the pharmaceutical
roller coaster. It’s a ride that
some are never able to disembark,
and it is fraught with
danger. Future generations will
one day look back at the use
of mild-altering drugs as a cruel
and barbaric experiment on the
unsuspecting public. Please
give these natural anti-anxiety
options a try and let me know
how they work out for you.


Personally I have GOOD support with the Gaba Dr. Williams mentions above....
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Scaredy Cat
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Posted 3/8/2015 11:45 AM (GMT -8)
"Psychiatry is one the biggest hoaxes ever perpetuated"???

I will certainly disagree with this statement!!

I am all in for natural solutions...and am fortunate to be able to manage my anxiety without medication...

However, I respect and know that this is not true for all.

There have been PROVEN chemical imbalances with those that suffer mental health issues...

...and articles such as these, are frankly erroneous and insulting to those trying to manage their mental health with the use of medication.

Take this one with more than a few grains of salt folks!!

S.C.
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Park12
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Posted 3/8/2015 11:52 AM (GMT -8)
I'm with S.C. and personally find this man's article offensive.

I think any one of us would love to manage our anxiety naturally. Some of us have tried. Some of us have success and some fail. That's all there is to it. What works for one, doesn't necessarily work for another.

C'mon now Jamin. These posts might really be offending some of us who have tried many different options but simply need the medications and really are very thankful that they exist.
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lgm1942
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Posted 3/8/2015 11:56 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks SC you beat me to this, it's terribly unfair to attack the system that many depend on for help,
what works for me may not work for everyone, to label all Md's who work in this field as only interested
in the money and pill pushing is unfair, to us and the Doctors, to each their own, Peace

Larry ***
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jaminhealth
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Posted 3/8/2015 11:59 AM (GMT -8)
Would you like me to DELETE the post.....

And it's true what works for one may not work for others.....I personally come from a holistic mindset, so Dr. Williams work has given a lot of support for years..... J


As I've mentioned I've had one panic attack that put me in the ER in 2005, so this thread interests to a degree, but I don't live in anxiety and probably because I do take the Gaba daily and Inositol also....and have worked with the principles I live with.

Dealing with the Fibro stuff, the nerves can be tight and tense so I know what I use helps me a LOT.....

But again, I'll delete.

Dr. Williams also was the one in my life, who brought the horrible Vit D deficiency epidemic to me...he wrote about this for years and I ignored it all.....millions ignored it and still live in the Vit D deficiency world.

He also is huge on the good oils, which includes Coconut Oil.

I was talking to my gf about this current letter and Dr. Williams includes Zembrin in this grouping, and she said one of her mother's friends in FL has been saved with the Zembrin.....he has written about Zembrin more than a couple times.
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jaminhealth
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Posted 3/8/2015 12:12 PM (GMT -8)
Granted we all have our experiences and some as we know have our own.

For years I could not get dx'd with thyroid support, but the doc wrote scripts for A/D drugs for years.....then when I could not afford the drugs, he sent me to a county psych so she could write more scripts and the county would pay a good portion of the drugs.....

It was thyroid all those years and once I got on Armour in 2002, the 10 yrs of depression lifted..... So I come from a place of not great experiences with medicines...

Yes, we have our journey and there are all avenues for these journies...
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jaminhealth
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Posted 3/8/2015 12:38 PM (GMT -8)
Because I'm curious, I just read some reviews on iherb on Zembrin and here is one:

((I have struggle for years with extreme anxiety, especially after any extended time period in public. Constantly running over what I said, what I've done, etc. This has made such a difference for me, it's the only answer, but it has helped me get out of a very dark, anxiety ridden pit and I highly recommend it.))
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jaminhealth
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Posted 3/8/2015 12:50 PM (GMT -8)
One more issue, I went 10 long years with a sluggish thyroid, my gut told it was sluggish but doc and labs told me I WAS NORMAL.....I was not and after years of A/D's and suffering, finally got on Armour and that LONG depression lifted.....I don't know how many of you folks have DUG Deep Into this issue, but it's epidemic that so many do not get dx'd or proper treatment.....


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Feb 25, 2014 - Anxiety, stress & panic attacks are common issues hypothyroidism patients face. Learn 10 tips from Thyroid Loving Care founder Jen Wittman.
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Posted 3/8/2015 7:03 PM (GMT -8)
With all due respect Jamin, I'm happy you are helped by using vitamins and supplements. I however, have a chemical imbalance and I NEED MEDICATION. For the past 30 years I have fought my diagnosis's of being bi-polar and have stopped taking meds, several times cause I thought I was all better or didn't need them anymore. EVERYTIME I stop taking them, my life becomes chaos and unmanagable. I'm pushing 50 now here in a couple years and it has taken me all this time to realize that I NEED medication and I will NEED it for the rest of my life. I take vitamins and supplements too and I understand some people are helped by these alone, but I am not one of them.

It seems every post you reply too, you are pushing the supplements on us like a pusher, at least that is how it's making me feel. I don't mean to sound rude I am truly happy they work for you, but please be respectful that they won't work for all of us the way you do you.
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Park12
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Posted 3/8/2015 7:38 PM (GMT -8)
Hugs to you Angel! It takes a strong person to be aware of what they truly need and to accept it. I feel like I fight that fight often because one of my tools is a Benzo and I know that's not the drug of choice for some, but it saved my life so I'm forever grateful.

I've also tried supplements, essential oils, etc, but what works for me is therapy and a little xanax. I'm just happy to have those in my tool belt!
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jaminhealth
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Posted 3/8/2015 7:40 PM (GMT -8)
Angel, you can ignore my posts, this is where I come from...I don't deal with other issues BUT I have had anxiety so this is what I work with. Again, ignore, I ignore a lot that does not interest me. I take meds for BP, I take a lot of supps for DDD and ibuprofen, and worked long and hard to come up with a sleep recipe that works for me. I take all supps for Fibro that I've worked with since 1999. Am I so wrong?

I also took Lorazepam after the PA in 2005, took it for some years 1/2 tab usually as needed but after I heard from a friend it could be linked to Alzheimers, she and I both got off it....hence working with the ones I choose.

Isn't there a place here for people who work holistically/alternatively. Are we excluded here? Thanks. Jam

PS: I'm not pushing anything, I'm not saying you SHOULD take this or that, etc...no SHOULDS from me.

Putting alternatives out there, take what you may want and leave the rest.
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Posted 3/9/2015 3:14 AM (GMT -8)
Jamin,

It is definitely supported here to try and treat your anxiety holistically. There are many of us who do not take meds and strictly use therapy or things of that nature. However, on almost every post you write, you remind us that Benzos may cause Alzheimer's and you begin again about your holistic remedies. It doesn't seem like you're really here asking for support for anxiety or depression, or that you're here to give support for it?

I've seen people ask for your sleep remedy and I would like to know what it is myself, but I would also like you to stop bringing up the relationship between Benzos and Alzehiemers. I have panic disorder and health anxiety and your repeated mention of this possible relationship just causes me more stress and I wouldn't think you would want that for me if you're a true anxiety sufferer.

That being said, again, I'd be interested in your sleep remedy, as I suffer from insomnia for years and take Ambien which doesn't seem to be working as well.
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Posted 3/9/2015 7:28 AM (GMT -8)
To ignore posting from any given member, you can use the 'Thumbs Down' icon in the upper right toolbar within a post of theirs.

This option means that you will no longer see posts from that particular member, but will still see everything/everyone else.


While we are all entitled to our opinions and individual ideas here at HW...

I will once AGAIN remind all members to please respect the unique and personal needs of each person.

Until you have been in someone else's situation, it is beyond insensitive and naive to propose that you have all the answers for them.

This will be a final reminder on the subject.

S.C.
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jaminhealth
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Posted 3/9/2015 8:47 AM (GMT -8)
Park12, when I hear about a link to Alz, I have to run....I don't want to take any chances of ending up there.....perhaps all you younger people are fine, but I don't know that and will end my comments there.

I believe I posted my sleep recipe in the Fibro group...I think you can look there.

I"m not seeking help with anxiety as I "think" I've got my issues in good control....right now.

Thanks for keeping me "checked"....jam
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Park12
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Posted 3/9/2015 9:26 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks, Jamin. Maybe I'll have a look over on the fibro group and see if I can find it.
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Posted 3/10/2015 8:33 PM (GMT -8)
Oh how I wish that natural remedies could work for me ,, I've tried for a year , lemon balm , mother wort, hawthorn ,valerian root , st jons wort , camomile, omega 3 fish oil , magnesium , to name a few and I still got severe panic attacks with multiple trips to ERs and it was only getting worse so I had to start zoloft , which I was so TEREFFIED of and thoughts so bad about these drugs ,
Before I started I had daily panic attacks with my pulse reaching 170 , its been 5 weeks since I had an attack , im not 100 percent yet but I'm so much better and these p
Ssris are far from placebo pills . They truly help people .

But it's so great that so many natural remedies are available for anxiety and they do help some , but didn't help me:( ..
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Posted 3/10/2015 8:45 PM (GMT -8)
RN,

You found what works for YOU...and that is what is important!

Not everyone responds the same way to any given rememdy...natural or Rx...

...and that is why we support and acknowledge each individual need and choice when it comes to treatment.

There is NO one size (method) fits all.

So feel good about trying what you did, but ultimately finding what is the treatment plan that works for you! ;)

Hugs and high fives!

S.C.
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Rn1987
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Posted 3/10/2015 8:59 PM (GMT -8)
Sc
absolutely I'm very greatful that I haven't had a panic attack in few week :),,

but if the holistic method helps some with panic attacks that's awesome ,, I too try the natural route at first before going the pharmaceutical way .
We are blessed to have both options available for us ..
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jaminhealth
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Posted 3/11/2015 8:41 AM (GMT -8)
I just WONDER WHY so many suffer with these panic attacks? I never had one until my late 60's or so with a big stressor, I've had many other stressors in my longlife, but never before had PA's.....why.

Thinking back over my long life, I don't recall anyone ever talking about PA's or maybe this stuff was never talked about and of course there was no net etc to read all this.

Is it the additives in foods, what is causing all this....just can't help but wonder...
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FamilyGuy
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Posted 3/11/2015 8:57 AM (GMT -8)
My mother suffered from panic attacks for over 45 years. My grandfather underwent electroshock therapy. I didn't learn about much of this until I was a late teen. The reason nobody talked about it was the stigma involved. I wish my mother and grandfather were treated better.
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jaminhealth
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Posted 3/11/2015 9:08 AM (GMT -8)
I remember one cousin who is now gone, but lived to 93, back a long time ago and giving birth of 6 children and an alcoholic husband, went thru shock treatments and we in the family heard it was all the depression and the stress of her life... so much was in the closets for mega years.
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