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Posted 3/23/2021 5:46 PM (GMT -6)
Does anyone else get physical symptoms from panic disorder? My main physical symptoms are overheating/heat sensation/red ears and numbness and tingling. Does anyone else have repeated physical symptoms they deal with— even when on medication?
Posted 3/25/2021 5:54 PM (GMT -6)
When I had panic attacks, they would always be just after I fell asleep.

I would wake up, sit up in bed, and wouldn't recognize where I was. I would look around, in the dark, and couldn't figure out where I was, even though I was in my bedroom, in my house.

I also would think, there is no cure for this. I'm in insanity. A tranquilizer will not reach this.

It was very frightening. It was like a mental breakdown. They were the worst thing that ever happened to me.
Posted 4/9/2021 10:25 AM (GMT -6)
Hi Tim Tam,

I’ve recently been experiencing something very similar. I’ll start to fall asleep and then my body jolts me awake into severe panic. While the full blown panic fades, I have lingering anxiety and shaking for sometimes hours on end. My sleep has been very minimal due to this and has elevated my anxiety to levels I’ve never felt before. Have you had any relief or success with any treatments or grounding techniques?
Posted 4/9/2021 11:52 AM (GMT -6)
jaradical:

Yes, those two descriptions of panic attacks sound very familiar.

Mine started when I was dxed as depressed by a non-speaking (aren't they all?) psychiatrist who simply listened to what I said for 45 minutes, and didn't bother to ask, do you ever have a racing mind, to see if I was manic-depressed.

So, giving me an anti-depressant only, sent my depression into mania, and then panic attacks. When I was, years later, given a stabilizer (Lithium in my case) to treat the mania and slow down the anti-depressant, I never had another panic attack.

When and how did your panic attacks start? You aren't actually bipolar (racing mind) who is only on an anti-depressant?

I think a lot of the anti-depressants treat panic attacks, if you aren't bipolar.

You asked, "Have you had any relief or success with any treatments or grounding techniques?"

The only treatment that works for me is medicine.
Posted 4/9/2021 2:50 PM (GMT -6)
I’ve had panic attacks in the past since my late teens and early twenties, but they were very on and off and rare. To be honest most of the time they were a result of smoking too much marijuana. Usually I would be fine but the last couple of months I did not react well to it.

I recently quit using it for this reason hoping for relief from the anxiety and occasional panic it caused me, but instead it’s only gotten worse and nearly constant every day since. I was a regular user for 15 years so perhaps, though rare, it could be some kind of withdrawal symptoms going on.

I just don’t feel myself and totally out of it day and night now. It definitely doesn’t help that I’m a hypochondriac looking at several different terrible things that could be going on ranging from brain tumors to just losing my sanity altogether. I don't have any hallucinations or anything like that it’s kind of hard to explain. Almost like my consciousness is just different, kind of foggy, and constant uneasy feeling in the pit of my stomach. And as stated previously, very little sleep and severe anxiety.

I haven’t been diagnosed with anything yet, but I’m having my first appointment with a psychiatrist tomorrow morning and hoping for the best.
Posted 4/9/2021 4:27 PM (GMT -6)
jaradical:

It's good that you are going to see a psychiatrist tomorrow.

It could be withdrawal.

Webmd.com says:

"Motivational enhancement therapy teaches you self-motivation techniques to quickly stop using marijuana.

"Cognitive-behavioral therapy, or "talk therapy," encourages you to change how you think so you stop using marijuana. You will gain self-control to fight the urge to use marijuana. The therapist might also work on correcting other problems (such as anxiety or trouble sleeping) which sometimes happen when you try to quit using marijuana."

"Contingency management is another type of therapy in which you set goals and earn rewards for staying drug-free. It also removes rewards if you suddenly start using marijuana."
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The above mentioned, "Cognitive-behavioral therapy, or "talk therapy," which it says "encourages you to change how you think so you stop using marijuana." is something that I have tried.

To me it is called positive thinking. I read a column about it many years ago (I'm on my 25th anniversary for that approach) and it really helped.

It said, before you go into a problem, believe that you can solve it. It said, believing you can solve a problem before you go into it, before you start thinking about the problem, doubles your chances that you'll solve it.

I think it improves your chances of solving it 10 times or more, because it seems to open up my mind to look for ways to solve it, whereas before, since I was raised negative, I looked for ways to not solve the current problem.

Were you raised in a positive household?

Do you have a good support system?
Posted 4/9/2021 4:48 PM (GMT -6)
Thanks for this information, I really appreciate it.

As far as growing up in a positive household, I would say it was kind of a hot and cold situation. I have many fond memories with my family and grew up in a loving environment, but my mother put significant stress on me particularly about my school performance which was generally always pretty good. She had very high expectations for me which I normally met, but would get irrationally angry if I scored lower than what she’d like.

My freshman year of college is when I had a steep decline in my performance. I was drinking a lot and abusing drugs and not focusing on my education. While I don’t blame my mother for being concerned, she started to suffer panic attacks and sleeplessness of her own. She was not open to therapy and opted to take Paxil which did help her. However, she explicitly placed the blame on me and my behavior for her having to go on medication.

This was a particularly turbulent time, but as a whole I believe I grew up in a positive household. Although looking back it seemed contingent on me meeting expectations.

I haven’t spoken to too many people about my current struggles with my mental health except for my parents and girlfriend who I live with, but they have been supportive.
Posted 4/9/2021 5:53 PM (GMT -6)
The reason I asked if you had a good support system is because, I didn't know if you lived with your parents, or what; didn't know if you had people who supported you, for I felt you would need that. It's good that you have a good support system.

Also, I wanted to know if you were raised in a positive household, meaning, do you have a positive outlook on solving problems?

The reason I asked that is that I grew up in a negative household and had a negative unconscious when it came to solving problems. I didn't know that, for it was in my unconscious, and I just thought that 's the way you approached things like problems. It almost got me, and it did in many ways

So, I'm having to guess here, you have a positive attitude about solving problems, right? And you guess, what's going to happen when you go into trying to solve this problem? So, what do you think is going to happen?

Because I think a lot depends on what you think is going to happen, before you go into the problem.

You said, "This was a particularly turbulent time, but as a whole I believe I grew up in a positive household. Although looking back it seemed contingent on me meeting expectations."

I don't know what that is, either, but we don't want you going in here with a negative component. So what do think about all of this? Prior to going into the problem, what do you think is going to happen?
Posted Yesterday 10:20 PM (GMT -6)
Heya,

Panic attacks are indeed scary. I've only ever experienced 2 full blown ones myself, but boy those were enough to scare me. A big fat man. During that time I couldn't sleep well, similar to what you were experiencing.
As I am atheist, I was tryin to figure out what was wrong with my body. But after some checks they said I'm all good even though my HR was elevated and i was so tired. Lying on the pillow brings about the palpitations and the fear. But my mom, she told me to listen to Buddhist chantings and meditate. I'm still not a believer nor am I preaching to listen to chantings, what I'm putting across is meditation. Seek peace. Breathe. Listen to white noises(fan slowly swirling/some waves music/nature). Notice your thoughts come in as though you're a third person. Look at the thoughts through an imaginary glass door, let them flow. And practice this.

And if you do feel unease, go out and jog with the thinking, "If i fall and pass, i fall and pass anyway". But more often than not, you'll realize you're completely fine. And you'll get better.

It helped me sleep well from then on. Even when the nights are rough. I wish you success. And stay strong.
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