She gave it up on a gradual basis over a period of eight weeks. Giving it up slowly was the answer for her. She was on a 150mg daily dose at the time. She is now off the drug entirely.
These changes should never be made on your own. Also because one person has a problem, onother may have a totally different experience with the medication. As far as I know, there is no hard and fast answer as to how you personally will be affected.
Good luck, and keep talking.
I have just joined and your messages are the first I read. I am on Effexor XR (300mg) and have been (on & off) for 3 years. I believe your doctor is giving you some bad information.
First of all, for her to have you stop the Effexor 'cold-turkey' is inappropriate. I had to do this when being treated for something else and it was a big mistake. The side-effects are much more than simply 'dizziness" they include physical symptoms much like having the flu. In addition, they may cause your depression to become much worse (this was definately true in my case and reputable doctors/psychologists fully know this to be a reaction to such an event). Gradual reduction is the best way. You can take reduced amounts of Effexor while on Zyprexa. Talk to another doctor (hopefully a psychologist). The reduction should take a week or ten days and will substantially decrease the side effects.
I did'nt have a positive reaction to Effexor until I increased my dose from 150 to 300. I won't say it's a total fix but it does provide relief from the 'lower depths'. Of course, there are so many other factors involved in any depression. I really recommend you seek therapy in conjunction with medication. Once you find the right med combination, you will have some stability and a basis from which to get better. My therapy includes Congnative treatment.
In terms of taking Zyprexa, I have done this also. I took it while taking Zoloft. Neither of of these had any effect. I may be wrong but I don't think Zyprexa is supposed to be taken by itself as a treatment for depression. It is a 'mood stabilizer' (hence bi-polar, schitz, treatment) and doesn't neccessarily treat the physical aspects of the depression. Again, this is all my 'lay person' information based on my own experiences. Find a reputable resource.
Finally, your doctor shouldn't have told you that no medication will bring you 'complete relief' from depression. This is a highly morose concept, an inconsiderate remark to make to someone suffering depression, and frankly, inaccurate. We will always have 'ups and downs' in our lives. Once you find the right medication(s), you will know and see such a complete (positive) difference. Dealing with the normal events in life is possible. The right meds will bring you stability and clear thinking. Your doctor was wrong about 'periodically slipping back into your depression' no matter what meds you were taking.
Finding the right medications can be really exhausting and often there are so many side effects. Despit this, it is truly a matter of life and death. It's worth it. I have felt what its like on the 'other side' (albeit only briefly in my life) and it was so much easier. Life actually made sense and I had real hope and dreams.
Keep trying.
I am glad to see you on the site. I am on 150mg Effexor. I think to a lage extent, this has been a great help to me as I also tried Zoloft with poor results.
I am interested in your statement that you are taking 300mg. I fear that would be a fairly large dose for me personally, and 150 to 300 seems like a great leap towards the unknown. Was this a gradual change, or was it done at once ? I went up to 150 gradually and found it to be OK as I did not have a depression for a period of about 8 months.
Depression is back with me now and I hesitate to seek help as I feel the less I take the better it is in the long run. Have you experienced recurring periods when you were in and out of gloomy, helpless times.
I have this this problem. Even before I ever sought medical help, I experienced weeks of depression between months of what I would call a normal, contented life.
You seem to have a great insight into our shared problem. Thank you for the input.
Ralph
I'm on effexor XR with a dose of 300mg per day. I find that it gets me to a level where I can cope but its not a miracle cure (for me anyways).
Unfortunately due to money issues I've occasionally missed medication in the past. It was a very weird experience. The first thing I noticed was a feeling almost like electric shocks in my fingers and up my arms. I felt like when I moved quickly, it took a few seconds for my brain to follow. I also became depressed again very quickly.
As far as I know, because it affects the chemistry of your brain, its a really bad idea to stop any mental health drug cold turkey. Thats a really big shock for your system that is likely to be harmful.
~Darkness~
Everyone of you have some great advice to give concerning Effexor XR. I took, ready for this, 375 mg. per day for two years. That's 75 mg. above the recommended daily dose. I have treatment resistant depression so I have to take quite a bit of medication to feel better. Not perfect, just better. I'm usually on four meds at one time. I'd rather go through life feeling better than worry too much about meds. Don't get me wrong though. I do my research before starting a new med. I do have an excellent Dr. though. He saves his professional journals for me. The journals are ahead of what you hear on the "streets" so to speak.
I switched from Effexor XR to 250 mg. Zoloft. I did this very very slowly. It took me 24 days. I would drop 37.5 mg's over a period of four days; then drop another 37.5 mg. until I was to zero. I did have some withdrawal symptoms but mild. Now, if I had stopped cold turkey, I believe it would have been pretty unbearable! In my opinion, when quitting a drug like Effexor XR, it should slowly be replaced by another med that you and your Psychiatrist agree on. In fact, I think any med taken over a long period of time should be tapered. Afterall, your brain needs to re-adjust back to it's previous state; (meaning, before the med was started.)
If your doctor neglects to tell you about common side effects of meds, then personnally I would look for another Psychiatrist.
From Greg.
Hello,
I tried quitting Effexor "cold turkey" a couple of years ago and it was very difficult. I cried a lot and had flu like symptoms. I could barely get out of bed. I would suggest tapering off of it as gradually as possible. I made the mistake of going off Effexor too abruptly without being on anything else. I am currently taking Cymbalta. Does anyone have any feedback on this? Thank you.....
Laura J.
No longer a florist,
now a stay-at-home-mom to an amazing little boy
Hi. It seems that you are going through the samething i did with trying different meds. I done that for a long time. I got so depressed i wouldent even step outside. Well my doc mentioned ETC's Electric shock thearpy. I in no way wanted to do that but i had just tried about everything else. But i decided to try it i felt it was my only chance to get better. I thought to myself. What else could be as bad being the way i felt with my depression. Well i had 6 shock thearapys. They did help me out of my deep depression. Then my doc started me on a MAOI. Not that i like taking the med you realy have to watch your diet. But the new med has brought me a long ways. Good luck i realy hope you can get on a med that will help you.
Scott.....
I went off of Effexor cold turkey, and was the worst mistake I ever made. I had blinding headaches, flu symptoms as other people have said, and extreme depression; much worse than I had experienced before. This lasted two weeks. I swore I wouldn't take Effexor again, tried Paxil; but it didn't work; so I'm back on Effexor, Remeron and Klonipan.
My doctor told me 150 mg was the max dosage of Effexor one could take. From reading the posts, I see it can be increased. By taking a larger dose, have any of you started feeling better? Because what I'm taking is not doing much at all for my depression and anxiety.