So I am going to start buhners basic protocol along with guo teng and kudzu.
I ordered guo teng in powder form from 1st Chinese herbs and I don't have buhners book yet (I ordered it but hasn't arrived)
So I'm wondering what the reccomended dose is or what I should start out with. I tend to be on the sensitive side.
I would love to hear your experience with it and also does it have antibiotic properties?
Sandra29 I am taking the tincture and I just started out low and slow.
In his new book Buhner recommends it for neuroborreliosis (page 215) along with the core protocol. Tincture: his book says 1/2 - 1 tsp , 3-6x daily, depending on severity of brain infection.
Ah ha. Found it. Page 354 - for both species of cat's claw Powder: 1 teaspoon 3-6x daily in juice or water.
Start slow and work up.
In his new book Buhner recommends it for neuroborreliosis (page 215) along with the core protocol. Tincture: his book says 1/2 - 1 tsp , 3-6x daily, depending on severity of brain infection.
Ah ha. Found it. Page 354 - for both species of cat's claw Powder: 1 teaspoon 3-6x daily in juice or water.
Start slow and work up.
Post Edited (PeteZa) : 2/18/2016 9:05:15 PM (GMT-7)
I don't think I would start with a whole teaspoon. I am a chicken with regard to herxing, allergic reactions and any other side effects. Maybe start with 1/4 tsp and see how you do.
I am starting out on this too, in powdered form from 1st chinese herbs too :)
I am starting on 1/4 of a teaspoon, 3 times a day. Now I know that I had to work up the other buhner herbs really slowly, (I made the mistake of starting too high and increasing too fast when I first began them...till I read the wiser words of folks on this forum and it all went a lot smoother second go around, lol!!) so I am intending to stay on that dose for a while.
Increasing your dose will also depend on the 'timing' of your herx, if you experience one that is. I know if I am going to herx it is usually 2 to three days in, but for others it is much quicker or much slower, so bear that in mind. Don't push forward until you are certain that you are OK.
Let us know how you get on :)
I am starting on 1/4 of a teaspoon, 3 times a day. Now I know that I had to work up the other buhner herbs really slowly, (I made the mistake of starting too high and increasing too fast when I first began them...till I read the wiser words of folks on this forum and it all went a lot smoother second go around, lol!!) so I am intending to stay on that dose for a while.
Increasing your dose will also depend on the 'timing' of your herx, if you experience one that is. I know if I am going to herx it is usually 2 to three days in, but for others it is much quicker or much slower, so bear that in mind. Don't push forward until you are certain that you are OK.
Let us know how you get on :)
Im using it in my decoction supposda hlp neuro and twitching
You've been given great information already.
And, yes, Gou Teng has antibiotic properties - not against Borrelia but other organisms. Truly, anything that is anti anything or that supports the immune system has the potential for a herx.
Kudzu proved to be a wonderful herb for me - it cleared my brain fog within a month of starting it.
Low and slow is the best way to go.
Good luck and please report back!
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Feb '15 transitioned off abx and started full Cowden protocol along w/LDN
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And, yes, Gou Teng has antibiotic properties - not against Borrelia but other organisms. Truly, anything that is anti anything or that supports the immune system has the potential for a herx.
Kudzu proved to be a wonderful herb for me - it cleared my brain fog within a month of starting it.
Low and slow is the best way to go.
Good luck and please report back!
Moderator - Lyme Forum
Jul '14 started what proved to be inadequate treatment ala PCP day after nymph deer tick bite
Sept '14 met LLMD - clinically dx'd with Lyme due to Bells Palsy - confirmed via CDC positive WB
Feb '15 transitioned off abx and started full Cowden protocol along w/LDN
Aug '15 started transition to Buhner's Lyme, Babesia & Bartonella protocols
Nov '15 stopped LDN - 98% healed!
I'll start with a drop. ;)
Kathie said...
I'll start with a drop. ;)
I'll start with a drop. ;)
That's what I started every herb with ;)
Some, I was able to increase to full dose rather quickly (supportive herbs).
Others took longer....as in 4 months to get up to 8 drops each of all the Babesia and Bartonella herbs. Amazingly so, I was able to get up to the full 1/4 - 1/2 tsp doses of each within the next two weeks once I got over that 8-drop hump. Go figure.
Moderator - Lyme Forum
Jul '14 started what proved to be inadequate treatment ala PCP day after nymph deer tick bite
Sept '14 met LLMD - clinically dx'd with Lyme due to Bells Palsy - confirmed via CDC positive WB
Feb '15 transitioned off abx and started full Cowden protocol along w/LDN
Aug '15 started transition to Buhner's Lyme, Babesia & Bartonella protocols
Nov '15 stopped LDN - 98% healed!
Gou Teng sounds like a great herb for neurological symptoms