My BF who is 29 has CF and I just recently found out about it. He started keeping it to himself after being abandoned by friends as a kid. He has some insecurities about staying in a relationship- looking into marriage and kids knowing that his life is going to be cut short. I'd like to know if there are any girlfriends, boyfriends, husbands, wives out there whether you have CF yourself or not- how do you cope, how do you support eachother and manage the disease as a couple?
Hi,
I have cystic fibrosis, I'm 43 years old, and my husband and I are celebrating our 10th anniversary the 29th of this month. By the way, my husband is 8 years younger than me, so if anyone got the short end of the stick, he did.
We married for better or worse, in sickness and health. I went on permanent medical disability 5 years ago. My husband had thought that I would work forever, retiring when he did. I knew that wasn't going to happen, but expected to work longer than I did. It was quite the adjustment for both of us.
But we did adjust, we are still adjusting, if for no other reason than each day is different and we can't predict how it's going to turn out.
I used to think that I would die from lung involvement, if I didn't kill myself first. (I suffer from chronic depression and have been suicidal many times in my life, though much less since I married.) Then last year I was diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis after I had a reaction to an iron infusion in the doctor's office and stopped breathing. I woke up to hear someone saying, 'let's start CPR'. I shoke my head, which pretty much alerted them to the fact that I had regained conciousness. That was pretty scary and so I became convinced I was going to die from pancreatitis. We now have it controlled very well with pain management and digestive enzymes. I am no longer so scared of dying from pancreatitis.
What I'm saying is, none of us knows how long we are going to live. If you love each other and talk things out, be honest with each other, seek help when it's needed, then you'll be okay. Sure, you will likely face end-of-life questions sooner than most couples, though with the Terri Schiavo thing, I think more people are giving that some thought anyway.
Being married or in a relationship with someone with CF is hard at times, very hard. If you're not willing or able to make that committment, then don't. There is a lot involved. But who's to say that you wouldn't marry someone that developed cancer and died at a young age? Who's to say that you won't die in a car accident on the way home tomorrow? None of us knows how long we have, but many of us with CF have a greater appreciation for today because we know how precious it is.
I'm saying this as much for me as for you. I often think myself unworthy of such a wonderful husband, of the wonderful things we've been able to do, of the time we have together. These last 10 years have been the best of my life. And I think my husband feels the same way, in spite of all that is me: the Vest, nebulizers, hospitalizations, home IV antibiotics, high drug costs, nighttime oxygen, Restless Leg Syndrome, pancreatitis, chronic depression, and just generalized grumpiness from time to time. <laugh> I'm entitled to be grumpy every now and then. Heck, everyone is.
Look inside your heart, pray about it. If it's meant to be, it will work out just how it's supposed to. I wish you well. Please feel free to ask me any questions you want or make any comments.
CathyP
Hey Cathyp,
i just wanted to say that your response really stood out to me. I am a 22/f with cf currently in the most serious relationship that I have ever been in and lately I have been so depressed thinking that what is I am going to die young, and why should my bf stay with me if he knows what could happen in the future, but what you said really made sense to me so thanks.
mary-rose
If you think about it, even those without chroic illnesses have no quarantee of how long they will have. One of my nephews died recently, no he wasn't sick, was just 23 and a father of 2.
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Hi all,
I joined this site because I am in need of support of other CF people and supporters. My boyfriend/fiancee' of a year and a half recently broke up and I have been on Auto-pilot the last three months without really realizing it. I just came out of the fog and I have realized what I've lost to CF. A great love in my life. Steve has struggled in our relationship because I have always wanted to be married and have children. Because of the CF, Steve has not wanted these things. I know at one time in our relationship he tried to believe, he loved me that much, that we were engaged until he said to me about the feelings of marriage and children with him have not gone away and will never go away. I struggled with that and I finally prayed. I wanted him in my life and I love him so much that I went back to him and said that I have to marry you for you not because I want to be married and have children. With that our relationship continued pretty good, of course with the ups and downs that CF health brings and we were good until he moved out of his parents place. A 30 yr old who has lived in a very closely connected world and has not ventured out. Always fearing the worst I suppose and with all due respect I don't have a Chronic illness to say how he is to feel and how he is to live his life, but after a year and more I was shocked that he didn't give me a key to his place. and from there.... our relationship struggled even more. and he got sucked into this depression once again that as long as I am with him I will never have what I want and he can't let our relationship cont. and I along the same line felt some resentment building and I love him too much to and so we both said we can't do this anymore.... and now I'm realizing that I want to be that person that he needs and now it's too late. How do you male CFers feel about the future, marriage, kids and etc...?????? tell me how I should react?
It's funny that you should bring this up. We had sort of the opposite situation, my husband and I. (We are celebrating 10 years of marriage this month by renewing our vows on the 24th in front of both our families as well as friends that weren't there the first time.)
When we decided we had to get married in order to use my husband's VA loan (I'm the one with CF), we had less than 2 weeks to get married. This was my second marriage and with my first one, my mom told me the day of the ceremony that it wasn't too late to change my mind. I was 24 and had never lived anywhere but with my parents. Had they had they're way, I probably would have stayed there forever.
Anyway, my husband said, if your parents are there, I won't be. Well, having been married once, it was a no-brainer. I loved this man with all my heart even though we had known each other only 8 months. So, none of my family was there, just his brother and a few friends. My mom got over it, we sort of worked things out, in fact, we're still working things out, even though we've been married almost 10 years now. Part of the reason we're renewing our vows is so that both families could have a chance to "see us get married". I know it would mean a lot to his family as well as mine. Another part of the reason is that my sister died almost 3 years ago, and my parents are getting older. They are both in their mid-70's now.
It's not likely, I don't think, that your mother will actually disown you, but if she does, then so be it. Like my brother-in-law has said several times over the past couple of weeks, your spouse is the only relative you ever get to pick.
If you are truly this much in love, and love each other for the right reasons, then think long and hard and then do what will bring you peace of mind. Pray about it, if you're the praying kind, and ask God to show you what you should do.
You don't mention you b/f's health. Is he relatively healthy and able to work? Or would you be supporting him right off the bat? Fortunately I was able to work the first five years of our marriage, going on disability at age 39. Some people with CF are able to work longer, some not nearly so long.
I would like to say that being married to someone with CF is not an easy row to hoe. It's financially difficult as well as emotionally and physically pretty hard at times as well.
I can understand your mom's position, because she may be seeing the big picture and seeing what you will give up being married to someone with CF. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, I'm just saying think it through long and hard. My husband would trade being married to me for anything in the world, even though I'm no longer able to do a lot of things I used to be able to do. It was hard when I stopped working; money was tight for a while there until my disability came through.
But through all of it, and there's been a lot in 10 years, we still laugh each day, we love each other more now than ever, we argue more now than we used to, but we work it out, too. (It took me a long time to reallize that I could stand up for myself, could disagree with him, even argue with him and know that he wasn't going to leave me.) We have a wonderful life together. It's not perfect, but neither of us would trade it for anything. I don't quite understand why he picked me to marry when there were other women that wanted to date him, but he did and I'm so wonderfully happy and grateful. I am truly blessed.
Hope this helps. If you want to talk more, that's fine. I see where your mom is coming from, but I also know that with all the sacrifices, i.e., no kids for us, only dogs, not being able to have a wife that can do all the things he would like to do, you give up a lot. But if he's the right person, you gain so much more.
Good luck!
Cathy
I believe in dragons, good men, and other fantasy creatures.
Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.
James Kemsley
Hi Kim R,
This is Kim K again...Thanks for the response..I think its great that you are married to a guy with cf, it gives me hope, since my mom doesnt think it can ever happen because of my bf's cf, but I hope it can happen for us too...He is on vacation now, but is coming back on Friday
I didnt think I would miss him as much as I did for 2 weeks lol We met 4 years ago on a road test when he had a gf and I had a bf, but after our relationships ended, we started talking more and now have been a couple for almost 3 months now, and I havent been happier with a guy than I am with him, which of course my mom doesnt understand...She is in denial about us as a couple, and basically he doesnt exist to her, because she wont even get to know him, which I always tell her is her loss, because he is such a wonderful person, unfortunately she only sees his cf and insists he wont be able to hold any kind of job
He got a lung infection from the flu in December, so he was forced to resign from a job he really liked...He hopes to get into some kind of job when he comes back from vacation..Him and I are hanging in there though, through the rough times lately, especially when my mom threatens to throw me out if I keep seeing him...She says if I "choose" him and not her, that I have to leave..I love them both, so I'm hanging tough for now, because I think its worth it, plus there are options for having children and financial support...I realize I may be the bigger breadwinner,with me becoming a pharmacist this May, but I know he will contribute with what he can...Any advice you have on this situation would be great...Thanks
Kim K
Hi Kim,
Hang in there. Your mom likely won't disown you. She just wants the best for you, I'm sure. That or she's like my mom and can't bear to see her kids grow up.
I'm sure she just wants you to have a normal life. Which isn't what you will get if you marry someone with CF. You won't get normal, but you won't get dull and boring either! <lol>
But what my husband has reminded me of many times is that you could marry someone that is perfectly healthy and lose them to a car accident early on or lose them to some other disease. Basically, it's a crapshoot. We're all going to die; some of us sooner than others. That's just how life is. It's just that most of us with CF are going to die from CF. Sad but true. That doesn't mean we can't have productive, even normal lives. That doesn't mean we can't get married and have the same ups and downs as normal people. We can! And we do. Of course, not all of us choose to have children, but not all married couples choose to have kids either.
And what my husband says to me when I ask him why he stays married to me is, "I love you". I can't imagine, if the situation were reversed, marrying someone with a chronic disease, but then again, I don't know what it's like to not have a chronic disease. I'd like to think I would marry the person I loved, illness or not. We're not second class citizens, unless we're women (semi-kidding there, but that's for another forum), we're people, people that have dreams and desires, people that fall in love and out of love just like everyone else. If anything, I think people with CF have a better understanding of what it means to live life a day at a time and make the most of it, enjoying whatever we can, when and where we can.
Hang in there.
Cathy P
I believe in dragons, good men, and other fantasy creatures.
Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.
James Kemsley
It seems like your post got lost in the shuffle. I've been meaning to reply, but it's been crazy here. You asked at the end of your post how you should feel after the breakup with your bf w/cf. No one can tell you how to feel. You feel how you feel. I can say that when I divorced my first husband, I thought my world was over even though I knew I couldn't live with him anymore. I just didn't know what to do with my life. Being married was so important to me. I had never imagined that anyone would ask me, so when someone did, I said yes. And, when someone asked me again, 8 years later, I said yes, again, but this time it was for the right reasons. I'm not sure it's fair to either of you for you to give up your dreams of being married and having a family if that's not what he wants. Maybe he feels that being male means he should always be the major breadwinner in the family and thinks/knows that with CF that may not always be the case. And maybe he's never allowed himself to believe that he'd live long enough to see his kids grow up so he decided never to have kids.
I know it's hard right now, but perhaps it's for the best. At least you had some happy times with him and you will always have that. Better to have that than to end up resentful and unhappy because you gave up your dreams of a family. Because if what you want is a family, then just saying, I don't want it anymore doesn't necessarily make it so. You'd always be saying, what if. And life is too short for that.
Take care and remember that this, too, shall pass.
Cathy
I believe in dragons, good men, and other fantasy creatures.
Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.
James Kemsley
I may only be 14 (this Sunday) but I haven't told my BF about my CF either. I am trying to find the right time, place and words. It's kind of hard because I am scared of being rejected and he is really the best thing that has ever happened to me, because my parents never understood about the personal aspects of CF. I am really scared of being rejected because I don't think that I could take it and I HATE counselors because I went through a stage of refusing to take medicine because I hated the tasted and the questions that i got. At one stage someone was being really really mean to me about it and so I just shut myself away and refused to talk or make friends (not good for someone in High school). The problem is that I go to a private school and there are heaps of rich snobby girls who wouldn't understand what I'm going through, all the care about is what their hair looks like or what they look like. I normally use my music to express my feelings but I am slowly coming out of the depression stage but If he rejects me I know that I will fall hard. Well I have to go now cya, ill try and write later.
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To anyone who may understand,
My BF who is 29 has CF and I just recently found out about it. He started keeping it to himself after being abandoned by friends as a kid. He has some insecurities about staying in a relationship- looking into marriage and kids knowing that his life is going to be cut short. I'd like to know if there are any girlfriends, boyfriends, husbands, wives out there whether you have CF yourself or not- how do you cope, how do you support eachother and manage the disease as a couple?
Post Edited (Darkies Gem) : 2/16/2007 2:36:07 AM (GMT-7)