Welchol is actually a cholesterol med that docs found to actually help absorb the excess bile caused by not having a gallbladder. Excess bile causes yellow, burning BM's. The maker should really advertise it as an anti-bile med as well.
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Post Edited (7Lil) : 8/5/2006 11:00:19 AM (GMT-6)
My doctor said that 3 of her patients using this could not use viokase. I made number 4. This is a medicine that is prescribed for cholesterol. WelChol is not absorbed into the bloodstream and doesn't pass through your liver and kidneys. It travels through the body to the intestines, where it binds the bile acids. My doctor has found that some IBS sufferers have excessive bile acids which result in loose or explosive BM's.
In my case I still have my gallbladder.
I had talked to my doctor about Rifaximin and she was reluctant to prescribe that since there are no studies to show long term effects.
I am very happy with WelChol, so far.
ladymaxnoble
I am a new member and I have several questions regarding medications and their usage.
Over the last couple of years I have gradually developed a problem with urgent diarrhea usually shortly after eating.
about a month ago I visited a nurse practitioner for help. After a stool sample to test for parasites was negative, she started me on Questran. I used it for 7 days(two doses per day) with no noticeable improvement and it also caused heartburn sometimes. The first couple of days started out suggesting some improvement, but subsequent usage indicated basically no improvement.
Following the Questran, I started Welchol initially at 3 pills once a day. The first couple of days suggested some improvement which proved illusory. After 3 days I increased dosage to 4 per day for 3 days, then 5 per day for 4 days, and I am presently at 5 per day. It appears that the Welchol is providing some improvement. On some days it would be up to three hours after eating before having a BM. However sometimes there was very little increase in the time after eating before having a BM. Also, the BM's are more frequently nearer normal as opposed to being almost watery. What discouraged me yesterday was a day of 5 or 6 liquid BM's.
Let me mention also early in the treatment trials I tried up to 3 imodium pills with no effect except bloating and stomach ache. And also tried up to 2 Lomotil pills with no effect except bloating and/or stomach ache. These symptoms are unusual for me. I don't normally experience these when having diarrhea.
I will mention that I had my gall bladder removed about 25 years ago, but concluded this is not significant since I didn't experience diarrhea for over 20 years.
My questions are:
1. Are my trial periods too short between dosage increases or changing to a different medication?
2. Since the Welchol still suggests some promise, I am considering supplementing this with perhaps one Caltrate 600 tablet per day. Do you think this would be a good move? (I have been reluctant to use too much Caltrate because I had a bout of kidney stones several years ago and my Urologist recommended avoiding calcium.)
I would appreciate your guidance concerning my treatment game plan and also any other suggestions you may have.
With Best Regards,
PT
I just wanted to welcome you to the site, so... Welcome to HealingWell!
I can't really help you with anti-d meds or Welchol, as I have never taken them, but I'm sure others will be along shortly.
Real quick though, about the Align, it might not be a bad idea to start on probiotics. Most of us here take it in some form or another. I would, however, start 1 thing at a time. If you start taking more than 1 new med/supplement at a time, and you have problems, you will never know which is causing the problems.
One more thing... Calcium can also be taken to help control the bile D.
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Yesterday I felt a good deal better as the Celexa was past the half life and moving out of my system. I was able to sleep the night before as well which goes a long ways towards helping one feel better. That was my first and only experience with antidepressants and not a good one. I won't be trying that again!
So far the Welchol does give me gas but it is mostly in the mornings when I wake up. The first day I took one Welchol and the 2nd day I took 2. Yesterday I had no D at all. In fact, I didn't have BM either! So I decided to go back down to just 1 Welchol yesterday until I see how my BM's are going to be. I did however have urgency all day. My doctor also wanted me to try Align. The pharmacy had to order it for me so yesterday afternoon I picked it up and took my first dose at dinner time. I took my 2nd dose of the Align this morning. It is my understanding that it is supposed to help with the gas and bloating over time as well as IBS so I will have to see how it goes. On the packaging it says that initially you may have a bit more gas/bloating until you body adjusts to the Align. As of yet this morning I have not had a BM but I also don't have the feeling of urgency which is very nice. Since I have had so much D for the last 2 mos. I figure it is probably going to take my system a bit to find its "norm" now that I am on these medications. Overall all though I feel much better.
Dear Antsie:
Thank you for your message summarizing your situation and treatments. I hope the Welchol and Align will help you to improve or resolve your diarrhea problems.
You asked for encouragement and while I am going to mostly report on things that didn’t work for me, I am encouraged to believe I can handle my issues based on what I have learned so far. So maybe you can glean some things from my experience that would of interest to you.
To explain my situation, over the last couple of years I have gradually developed a diarrhea problem manifested by occasional urgent, explosive diarrhea about 30 minutes to 1 hour after a meal. When I am at home this is no problem, but when my wife and I go out to dinner, often with friends, it can be a real problem. I had experienced three episodes of bowel incontinence during a three month period before my seeking medical help in May. But I have improved to the extent that I haven’t experienced any more of these episodes of bowel incontinence more recently.
Let me explain a little further that my wife and I used to travel a lot but have not traveled very much since 9/11. My wife doesn’t want to fly and I don’t like to drive for long periods. So my diarrhea problem has not been a high priority issue and the main reason I started seeking help is that I want to fly on a trip to
So my immediate goal was to figure a way to make this trip without having the diarrhea incontinence problem. With that explanation I am going to enclose some excerpts from 1) a FAX sent to my Nurse Practitioner and Gastrointerologist and 2) an email sent to my adult children which summarizes my situation as of July 31.
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FAX, July 31
This is an update on my situation and a request for your guidance on what I could do next.
Regarding my IBS situation, briefly I am presently "going back to the drawing board". Over the last 6 weeks 1)I have tried a new fiber supplement, Benefiber, 2) tried a new prescription drug, Questran, 3) tried imodium, 4) tried a prescription diarrhea stopper, Lomotil, 5)tried another prescription drug, Welchol, 6) tried a probiotic, Culturelle, and 7)tried a yogurt product, Activa. about one week ago, I experienced 10 diarrhea BM's in one day, and I decided to stop all of these and start over again as soon as I learn a more hopeful course of action.
Some of the things I have learned so far are: 1) I feel better and do better without any of the medications I have tried so far, 2) it takes probably at least one week to stabilize on a new medication before you can make any decisions about results, 3) if worse comes to worse, I can make the Washington trip by just not eating for the 12 hours on the trip. (It is up to
I feel much better right now doing nothing and it is something I could live with this way if necessary.
To update, I haven’t taken any fiber supplement or other IBS medications since June 25, and I have generally done better during this period than when I was trying all the medications. However, during the last 2-3 days I have started getting a hemorrhoid as evidenced by blood traces. So I feel that I should gradually start some type of fiber supplement again.
Also, I learned recently that I have been selected to for the next
Ms. (blank): 1) What would be a reasonable next step? 2) Is re-starting a fiber supplement a good interim step at present? 3) Should I schedule a visit to see you?
Thanks for your help, Paul Taylor. PS- I promise to not tell you any more jokes next time.
Excerpt from Email to my Adult Children, July 31
I saw the nurse practitioner today. I reviewed what has been tried and explained that for about 4 weeks I haven't taken any IBS medication except stool softeners. And I feel fine.
Then I explained that my only goal at this point was to figure a way to make the
So Dr. (blank) came in and we had a good discussion of all the issues and mainly I reiterated that I was doing fine and feeling fine. My only goal was to figure some way to avoid a bowel incontinence on the
Also I ask both of them about wearing an adult diaper (like Depends). Ms. (blank) said she didn't think it would be necessary, but Dr. (blank) said, "Go for it. It won't hurt anything and could give peace of mind."
Anyway so I plan to gradually use up all the fiber supplement I have and then go back to regular use of Metamucil.
And I feel confident now that I can handle the trip OK.
Also, I was very pleased to get to know Dr. (blank) better. All previous times he had been very hurried and aloof. But this time we had a very good conversation, even discussing a mutual friend. So I was very pleased overall.
Love, Dad
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Antsie, since the above email I have tried the magnesium citrate once and while it did not eliminate diarrhea completely, it did reduce it significantly for about three days.
So I am definitely planning to go on the Washington trip 1)by doing the magnesium citrate thing one day prior to the trip, 2) getting some Depends and probably wear them, 3) select some type of food that I could take with me and possibly declining part of or all the scheduled meals, 4) at my orientation meeting regarding the trip, I alerted the medical staff person that I had this IBS problem and she is going to have me seated near the bathroom on the airplane.
In the meantime I plan to ask my Gastrointerologist if he has any other ideas for me to try.
And based on some of the reading I have done in researching this problem, I have started doing some exercising of the anal sphincter muscle aimed toward strengthening the sphincter. (This is something I did for my urethra sphincter several years ago when I experienced bladder incontinence following prostate cancer surgery.)
And 7Lil, thank you for your commentary. Good to hear from you again.
PT
Have you found that Align eliminates or reduces your diarrhea?
As previously noted I plan to discuss my results with my Gastrointerologist and I will inquire about Align.
Again, thank your for your recommendation and I hope you will find answers to your problems.
With Best Regards, PT
Go to the website above to read more about the Align.
If your local pharmacies do not sell it you can order it online directly from the company. It does not require a prescription.
Online price is $29.99. I checked with 3 pharmacies here. At RiteAid it was $37.50, Walmart Pharmacy was $35, and Walgreens was $29.99. Both Walmart and Walgreens told me they would have to order it and would have it in the next day. Obviously, I wound up getting it through Walgreens.
I am now entering 4 days on the Welchol and 3 days on the Align. It really is too early to say for sure what is working but I have not had diarrhea for 3 days now. (I should insert here that I have only been awake and out of bed 30 mins while writing this.) The Welchol was giving me such gas. One of the benefits of Align is that is is supposed to reduce flatulence. I did wake up with some gas this morning but not nearly as bad as the 2 days before. The other big thing I am noticing is that the feeling of needing to go has lessened with each day. The information pamphlet that comes with Align gives you a little chart to mark your progress. It says that by the end of week one you should be feeling some better, week 2 a good bit better with few interuptions, by week 3 you and those around you should be able to tell you are doing something different and then at week 4 you should be well on your way to balance. It is a supplement that is meant to be taken on an ongoing basis.
Edited to add: about 10 mins after I typed all this I had my first normal BM in weeks! Hurray! It is still yellow brown in color but it was definitely a formed stool. (Not to gross anyone out here.) I think I am possibly finding something that works. If anyone else has been on the Welchol successfully for a while let me know what to look for when I hit the right dose on that.
PT, I also forgot to mention that I read somewhere that peppermint tea helps settle the GI tract and I have been enjoying a hot cup of peppermint tea with honey every morning now instead of coffee. I sometimes drink it in the evening as well. It does seem to have a calming effect even if it is just a psychological one. I like the way it tastes!
Post Edited (antsie) : 8/16/2008 6:43:08 AM (GMT-6)