I just got my third booster shot on Friday. No side effects.
I hope everyone chooses to be vaccinated. I believe it’s the safest way to control this virus.
That said, I do believe every medication comes with side effects and risks. On February 25 my wife and I had our second Moderna vaccine. My wife decided to take Tylenol before going to bed while I decided none needed since both of us had no reaction to the first shot. She woke up feeling fine while I had a temperature of 101.6 and was feeling a little crummy. I took Tylenol and felt fine afterwards. I went about a normal morning and even took the car to the mechanic to get a new battery. My wife and I enjoyed a very nice lunch and I planned on going to the YMCA that evening.
My wife heard a crash in the kitchen loud enough that she thought I pulled over the refrigerator. She came into the kitchen to find me unconscious on the floor. She determined that I had a pulse and was breathing and she called 911 for an ambulance. She saw some white on my lips and thought possibly I was having a seizure and the noticed an open ice cream container on the counter and guessed that’s why I went into the kitchen.
I was taken to our local hospital and evaluated. All they knew was they had an unconscious old man with an unobserved fall. The hospital ran blood tests, X-rays and CT scans and determined I had subdural and subarachnoid brain bleeds and called in a helicopter to fly me to a major hospital with a trauma unit. A priest gave me last rights. I have no recollection of any of this. When I asked me wife if I was unconscious she said, “you’re eyes were open when the ambulance guys got here, and you were answering simple questions; but, it was like the lights were on but nobody was home”.
After much testing including the brain trauma team the diagnosis was that I had experienced a perfect storm resulting in Vasovagal syncope. I simply and suddenly fainted with the fall resulting in trauma to my brain. The event was triggered by low blood pressure. The low blood pressure was a result of the low grade fever from the vaccine as well as my normal blood pressure pill reaching maximum effect at the time of my fall.
I believe the diagnosis to be correct following discussion with the brain trauma team. They collectively reached that conclusion after studying my CT scans and determining my scans were the result of trauma from the fall and not the bleeds causing the fall.
I share this experience simply to point out that any medication including vaccination can come with unusual and unexpected side effects. My case was uniquely rare and my only regret is that I did not pay the vaccination the respect it was due.
My brain bleeds were monitored with CT scans and over a period of seven weeks were absorbed and healed and I have no side effects that I’m aware of. I did finish that quart of butter pecan ice cream about a week later and after my discharge from the hospital. I urge you all to give some respect to any medication you take.
That said, I do believe every medication comes with side effects and risks. On February 25 my wife and I had our second Moderna vaccine. My wife decided to take Tylenol before going to bed while I decided none needed since both of us had no reaction to the first shot. She woke up feeling fine while I had a temperature of 101.6 and was feeling a little crummy. I took Tylenol and felt fine afterwards. I went about a normal morning and even took the car to the mechanic to get a new battery. My wife and I enjoyed a very nice lunch and I planned on going to the YMCA that evening.
My wife heard a crash in the kitchen loud enough that she thought I pulled over the refrigerator. She came into the kitchen to find me unconscious on the floor. She determined that I had a pulse and was breathing and she called 911 for an ambulance. She saw some white on my lips and thought possibly I was having a seizure and the noticed an open ice cream container on the counter and guessed that’s why I went into the kitchen.
I was taken to our local hospital and evaluated. All they knew was they had an unconscious old man with an unobserved fall. The hospital ran blood tests, X-rays and CT scans and determined I had subdural and subarachnoid brain bleeds and called in a helicopter to fly me to a major hospital with a trauma unit. A priest gave me last rights. I have no recollection of any of this. When I asked me wife if I was unconscious she said, “you’re eyes were open when the ambulance guys got here, and you were answering simple questions; but, it was like the lights were on but nobody was home”.
After much testing including the brain trauma team the diagnosis was that I had experienced a perfect storm resulting in Vasovagal syncope. I simply and suddenly fainted with the fall resulting in trauma to my brain. The event was triggered by low blood pressure. The low blood pressure was a result of the low grade fever from the vaccine as well as my normal blood pressure pill reaching maximum effect at the time of my fall.
I believe the diagnosis to be correct following discussion with the brain trauma team. They collectively reached that conclusion after studying my CT scans and determining my scans were the result of trauma from the fall and not the bleeds causing the fall.
I share this experience simply to point out that any medication including vaccination can come with unusual and unexpected side effects. My case was uniquely rare and my only regret is that I did not pay the vaccination the respect it was due.
My brain bleeds were monitored with CT scans and over a period of seven weeks were absorbed and healed and I have no side effects that I’m aware of. I did finish that quart of butter pecan ice cream about a week later and after my discharge from the hospital. I urge you all to give some respect to any medication you take.
Post Edited (Terry's Cellar) : 8/25/2021 5:38:15 PM (GMT-6)
I am getting my booster at the VA tomorrow...I am mixing mine...Moderna this time
diagnosed 68 Jan 2014 PSA 4.5 4+3 = 7
robotic March 2014
PSA going up Finished IMRT June 1, 2017
OCT 2018 .175 DEC 2018 .193 July 2019 0.376 DEC 2019 0.569
Mar 2020 PetScan found nodules in both lungs Biopsy stage 4 PSA 1.03 now May 2020 bone scan clean. and started Degarelix and zytiga/prednisone
Jun PSA 0.090 Jul 0.033 Sept. 0.01 Oct. <0.010 and T <.07
diagnosed 68 Jan 2014 PSA 4.5 4+3 = 7
robotic March 2014
PSA going up Finished IMRT June 1, 2017
OCT 2018 .175 DEC 2018 .193 July 2019 0.376 DEC 2019 0.569
Mar 2020 PetScan found nodules in both lungs Biopsy stage 4 PSA 1.03 now May 2020 bone scan clean. and started Degarelix and zytiga/prednisone
Jun PSA 0.090 Jul 0.033 Sept. 0.01 Oct. <0.010 and T <.07
Will get mine when it is time, and will likely stick with Moderna, unless more info comes out that might suggest mixing it up is a good idea.
Michael
Michael
Done. Walgreens yesterday, no waiting, no fuss-just sign paper confirming immunocompromised. No side effects except arm is a little tender.
My wife had her immuno-compromised booster last Thurs at local pharmacy, had to fill out form like DYank, She had a really sore arm that evening followed by a couple of nights of head aches and chills, much worse than second Pfizer shot this time around.
The CDC is recommending that the boosters NOT be mixed.... And odds are if your card says one thing, they won't give you the other.
I believe in stacking the cards in my favor.
Booster goes in my arm as soon as it is available.
NJ Fred
Booster goes in my arm as soon as it is available.
NJ Fred
Boosted.
Age 52 at Diagnosis, 7/2019, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 4/12 positive, G8 all 4 cores (80%, 90%, 5%, 25%)
RALP 10/2019 G9 (4+5). SVI- EPE+ Clean margins. 9 nodes clean. T3aN0M0
3/20-4/20 IMRT 68 Gy (during Covid lockdown!)
1/20--7/20 Lupron
PSA: 11/19: 0.10, 1/20:0.11, 8/20: <0.02, 1/21: <0.02, 4/21: 0.07, 7/21 0.18
Age 52 at Diagnosis, 7/2019, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 4/12 positive, G8 all 4 cores (80%, 90%, 5%, 25%)
RALP 10/2019 G9 (4+5). SVI- EPE+ Clean margins. 9 nodes clean. T3aN0M0
3/20-4/20 IMRT 68 Gy (during Covid lockdown!)
1/20--7/20 Lupron
PSA: 11/19: 0.10, 1/20:0.11, 8/20: <0.02, 1/21: <0.02, 4/21: 0.07, 7/21 0.18
The VA had no problem with mixing..... I had mine yesterday it was moderna so far one 30 seconds of chills.
diagnosed 68 Jan 2014 PSA 4.5 4+3 = 7
robotic March 2014
PSA going up Finished IMRT June 1, 2017
OCT 2018 .175 DEC 2018 .193 July 2019 0.376 DEC 2019 0.569
Mar 2020 PetScan found nodules in both lungs Biopsy stage 4 PSA 1.03 now May 2020 bone scan clean. and started Degarelix and zytiga/prednisone
Jun PSA 0.090 Jul 0.033 Sept. 0.01 Oct. <0.010 and T <.07
diagnosed 68 Jan 2014 PSA 4.5 4+3 = 7
robotic March 2014
PSA going up Finished IMRT June 1, 2017
OCT 2018 .175 DEC 2018 .193 July 2019 0.376 DEC 2019 0.569
Mar 2020 PetScan found nodules in both lungs Biopsy stage 4 PSA 1.03 now May 2020 bone scan clean. and started Degarelix and zytiga/prednisone
Jun PSA 0.090 Jul 0.033 Sept. 0.01 Oct. <0.010 and T <.07
Had 2nd vaccine 2/18/21. Had my 3rd on 8/15/2021. Just happened to be in drugstore for prescription and asked when booster would be available? Pharmacist asked if my immune system was compromised? When I told her it was she said "let me sharpen my needle." No proof needed on my part.
meanwhile israel is now boosting people 30 and up. they aren't waiting. interesting read:
https://news.yahoo.com/ultra-vaxxed-israel-debacle-dire-073840050.html
age - 66
12/09 - PSA 6.8
G7 - 3+4 - all 12 cores positive
HT, BT, IGRT
PSAs .2, .3, .2, .3, .2, .1, .2, .2, .1, .1, .1, .1, <.1, <.1, <.1. <,1
7/17/21 - 11th year post treatment PSA <.1
"..You get braver as your options dwindle.." -- Fairwind
https://instagram.com/edraderphotography/
https://news.yahoo.com/ultra-vaxxed-israel-debacle-dire-073840050.html
age - 66
12/09 - PSA 6.8
G7 - 3+4 - all 12 cores positive
HT, BT, IGRT
PSAs .2, .3, .2, .3, .2, .1, .2, .2, .1, .1, .1, .1, <.1, <.1, <.1. <,1
7/17/21 - 11th year post treatment PSA <.1
"..You get braver as your options dwindle.." -- Fairwind
https://instagram.com/edraderphotography/
My father got the vaccine and 5 days after the 2nd dose he was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. He was hospitalized and on oxygen for almost 2 months. He is fine now... but nah, no booster. Done with the vaccine. He received moderna vaccine from VA... also had prostate cancer many years ago. You never know what the reaction will be.
I'm really not "due" for my Moderna booster for another 6 weeks. But I think I'll get it soon anyway. Seems like a no-brainer to me given all of the anti-vax nuts still around spreading the virus.
Jim
Forum Moderator-Prostate Cancer. Age 62 (74 now), G 3 + 4 = 7, T1C, PSA 4.2, 2/16 cancerous, 27cc. Brachytherapy 12/9/08. 73 Iodine-125 seeds. Everything continues to function normally. PSA: 6 mo: 1.4, 1 yr: 1.0, 2 yr: .8, 3 yr: .5, 4/5 yr: .2, 6-12 yr: <1. My docs are "delighted"! My journey:
http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=1305643&g=1305643#m1
Jim
Forum Moderator-Prostate Cancer. Age 62 (74 now), G 3 + 4 = 7, T1C, PSA 4.2, 2/16 cancerous, 27cc. Brachytherapy 12/9/08. 73 Iodine-125 seeds. Everything continues to function normally. PSA: 6 mo: 1.4, 1 yr: 1.0, 2 yr: .8, 3 yr: .5, 4/5 yr: .2, 6-12 yr: <1. My docs are "delighted"! My journey:
http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=1305643&g=1305643#m1
teddydog... sounds like your dad has had a very tough time and hope he's on the mend. At the same time, how do you know the vaccine caused the heart failure?
Age 60, Diagnosed at 51
PSA 9.6, Gleason: 9 (5+4), three 7s (3+4)
Chose triple play of HDR brachy, IMRT and ADT (Casodex, Lupron and Zytiga)
Completed ADT (18 months) in April 2014
9/20: PSA = 0.03
Age 60, Diagnosed at 51
PSA 9.6, Gleason: 9 (5+4), three 7s (3+4)
Chose triple play of HDR brachy, IMRT and ADT (Casodex, Lupron and Zytiga)
Completed ADT (18 months) in April 2014
9/20: PSA = 0.03
Michael_T said...
teddydog... sounds like your dad has had a very tough time and hope he's on the mend. At the same time, how do you know the vaccine caused the heart failure?
he doesn't. it's not like that event changed his mind
age - 66
12/09 - PSA 6.8
G7 - 3+4 - all 12 cores positive
HT, BT, IGRT
PSAs .2, .3, .2, .3, .2, .1, .2, .2, .1, .1, .1, .1, <.1, <.1, <.1. <,1
7/17/21 - 11th year post treatment PSA <.1
"..You get braver as your options dwindle.." -- Fairwind
https://instagram.com/edraderphotography/
For those who asked... based on analysis by his cardiologist, he felt it was a likely causal relationship between the shot and his congestive heart failure. It's not a well published side effect, but the shot does affect the heart. My dad was fine before the shot and after his hospital stay, 6 weeks of rehab etc, he is fine now. There was no medical issue that would have brought this on in the period that this happened. 5 days after the 2nd shot he was in the hospital and could not breath due to all the fluid around his heart and lungs.
The WALL STREET JOURNAL just reported that booster shots for corona will likely be recommended for 6 months following one's original vaccination ------rather than the 8 month waiting period.
As we know, immuno-compromised folks are already eligible to receive the booster.
Many of us here got our initial vaccinations last winter or early spring --- so the timeframe for boosters might be here sooner, rather than later.
Just an update to share on this topic ---
CYCLONE --- # Iowa State University
Post Edited (Cyclone-ISU) : 8/26/2021 6:09:03 PM (GMT-6)
Cyclone-ISU said...
The WALL STREET JOURNAL just reported that booster shots for corona will likely be recommended for 6 months following one's original vaccination ------rather than the 8 month waiting period.
As we know, immuno-compromised folks are already eligible to receive the booster.
Many of us here got our initial vaccinations last winter or early spring --- so the timeframe for boosters might be here sooner, rather than later.
Just an update to share on this topic ---
CYCLONE --- # Iowa State University
like i said, the US is behind the curve because we are trying to appease the craz... vaccine hesitant. germany, UK and israel are already boosting
remember, its old people like us who were vaccinated first and most vulnerable to the virus. i did not wait. i broke the rules. i'm okay with it. i'm ahead of the curve but none of us is out of the woods!
https://news.yahoo.com/pfizer-ceo-says-vaccine-resistant-205325099.html
age - 66
12/09 - PSA 6.8
G7 - 3+4 - all 12 cores positive
HT, BT, IGRT
PSAs .2, .3, .2, .3, .2, .1, .2, .2, .1, .1, .1, .1, <.1, <.1, <.1. <,1
7/17/21 - 11th year post treatment PSA <.1
"..You get braver as your options dwindle.." -- Fairwind
https://instagram.com/edraderphotography/
Boosted. Minor fatigue.
Stay safe everyone.
(On Humira for Ulcerative Colitis, an immuno-suppressant drug)
Stay safe everyone.
(On Humira for Ulcerative Colitis, an immuno-suppressant drug)